Ads on our blogs – let us do it.
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Dear WordPress and blogger friends,
Are you kidding me? WordPress doesn’t allow ads on our blogs? Sure, WP is allowing us to use their service, but it is my content.
Not allowing ads is absurb. WP is by far the best blog site and best blogging software out there. Hands down. I love WP. However, the ad issue is such a big deal. I don’t know if it is worth investing my time and energy into a blog on WP that I know I can’t get any return on.
How many blogs is WP losing because they don’t allow ads on blogs? I’m one. If WP allowed us to choose to have advertising on our blog pages I think it would blow Blogger away. I think that is the main reason why WP hasn’t become the most dominant blog company yet.
I know this issue has been covered over and over again, but WP is sitting on a gold mine. And yet they don’t take advantage of it. They need to allow bloggers the option to place ads on their sites and then take a small percentage in return.
I feel strongly about this. WP is offering a service to its bloggers and basically for free. They could easily get some revenue in return for their service.
Why not allow users to create blogs as they please? I hate adsense, but as a blogger I want freedom to run my blog as I wish (following guidelines of course) and to make a few dollars here and there in return for the info I present. What’s so wrong about placing ads or paid reviews on our blogs?
Come on Word Press, let us be able to place ads on our blogs. Come up with some rules and guidelines. Please work with us on this issue.
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References:
Tos section 2, bullet 5 http://wordpress.com/tos/
Advertising http://faq.wordpress.com/2005/12/08/adsense/Forum searchbox – https://en.forums.wordpress.com/search.php?q=adsense
Freedom to advertise at will http://wordpress.org
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=3700&page&replies=1We do not discuss policy on these forums. The process for requesting features is to send in a support request to staff http://wordpress.com/contact-support/
On a personal note it’s my firm belief that blogger initiated advertising will result in this community becoming like Blogger which is primarily populated by sploggers and spammers.
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I appreciate that people have subjective ideas of a ‘return’ on a blog. as you were saying: ‘I don’t know if it is worth investing my time and energy into a blog on WP that I know I can’t get any return on.’
just as a little slightly random note here….there are many ways a blog provides a return and money is the last one that comes to my mind. :)
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Hear, hear! I personally will not link to or even read blogs that are covered with advertising. In social networks I will not mark those with such blogs as “friends” and will not read to or link to their blogs.
In my experience there is usually little if any original content in such blogs. They seem to be characteristic of sploggers who have stables of blogs full of stolen ie. “scraped” material that’s being prostituted for pennies.
I resent having to scroll down half a page of “tat” (useless crap) to read what’s posted. Most of all I hate, loathe and despise ads being placed in the blogging post space between the post titles and the body of the blog articles, as well as at the end of posts.
P.S. The Kew Institute study revealed that the majority of bloggers are women in their 40’s who blogging for reasons of self expression.
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That’s fine. I have a blog I would never advertise on, and frankly don’t care if I have traffic to it or not. Let blogs like this choose not to place ads.
Why do people write books? To express themselves and to get paid for their views and information they provide. On blogs we are giving away our information for free. All I am asking is to have an advertiser sponsor me so I can continue writing. Since most of us aren’t so noble and “giving to the benefit of society” as some, I think it is only fair to have a chance to get funds for my endeavors just like a non-profit organization does. Ads and sponsors.
I too hate those spam blogs. So let’s come up with some guidelines to keep things in order and be able to delete them if they are crap. Limit the number of ads, restrict placements, restrict types of ads, etc.
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Actually your wrong on the author bit. As a published author i can tell you now, the money isnt why we do it :)
We write books because we have something to say and we say it. I have had 4 books published, and a 5th one due out next year, the money i got from the previous 4 books is equal to what i earnt in a year doing my previosue job, so trust me, there isnt a huge amount of money to be made in being an author, At least not until you have books selling millions of copies and have dozens of books out there.
As for getting areturn on your blog, why do you want one?
I have two blogs on the go, an anime one where i write review and commentary on anime and manga, and a religouse one where i do the same for my religion. I do it because i enjoy the topics im talking about, I do it as a hobby, i dont expect to be paid for it.
If you want to have ads on your site smeg off elsewhere, there are several other places like blogger that allow ads. There are even a few other wordpressMU sites that allow it, go join up with them.
Since most of us aren't so noble and "giving to the benefit of society" as some, I think it is only fair to have a chance to get funds for my endeavors just like a non-profit organization does.I found this funny, the thing here is a not for profit group is exactly that, they have ads and sponsors to cover the costs incured for hosting and professional help. What costs are you incuring that are so high you need a sponsor? Since it’s hosted for free, the answer is NONE.
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Nod to TT weirdscience and tiamatsdisciple
Besides, there are blogging platforms out there on the internet that allow advertising, or you can always hire a host and use the software from wordpress.org (just don’t expect your take on the ads to even pay for your hosting fees). It’s not like you don’t have options.
Personally I, like TT, just pass by blogs covered with ads, and I certainly don’t link to them.
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so you are telling me if you have a good site ya’ll wouldn’t take money for it if it was offered to you?
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Yes I do believe that’s what he’s saying. On my own behalf the answer to your question is: I would not take money if it were offered to me.
I am currently working with Root on web development of a wordpress.org install on a hosted site. When the site is complete there will be no advertisng of any kind whatsoever on it. In contrast my here at wordpress.com there are occasional google adsense ads initiated by wordprews.com. At my new site there will be only my blog — no ads.
Moreover, at my new site I am designing my theme in tandem with a professional. The template can be edited and I can avail my blog of the use of plugins I cannot use at wordpress.com.
Perhaps your needs would be better met with spending a little to hire a web host.
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Personally, I probably would not, or if I did decided to advertise, it would be very minimally, and at that point I would move it to my own hosting, or hire a host.
I can’t speak for anyone else.
It’s highly likely wp.com is as stable and trouble-free as it is because they do not allow any user installed java, flash, or any type of code that could jeopardize the entire wp community. When we’re all using the same software (MultiUser), what one person does can have disastrous effects on all others using that MU software.
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um..just to add on your non-profit bit….the comparison is waaay off imo. read up on non-profits to see the parameters/focus around that and you’ll see what I mean and how it differs from a for-profit/commercial organization
if you truly see yourself as non-profit and want to be recognized as a non-profit..why don’t you register a corporation and then apply for grants?…when you write your grant proposal letters…you can explain all the reasons that the agency should provide funding to support the good you are doing.
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A couple of things. I agree with you all on many things. I have a blog that I don’t want ads on. I don’t trust blogs or sites with lots of ads either. The key is “lots”. If I have a blog that has decent traffic where people are reading about my critique about different types of camping equipment, with advertisements I am offering those that are interested a chance to buy my recommended gear. If they are interested, great. If not thats fine too. I am just presenting them the chance to investigate a purchase of something I recomend.
If someone said I will pay you $xx to display my company name, of course I would take it. Why wouldn’t you?
In regards to the whole non-profit thing. I helped run a large non-profit so I know all about them. All I was saying by this comment is that somehow services, salaries (if large enough of a non-profit) and bills need to be paid. Ads and sponsors help do this. I am not a non-profit, but just getting compensated for my time to provide the services and recommendations. Ok, maybe not the best example but it made sense in my head when I wrote it.
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In my book being a non-profit but getting paid *compensation* is a semantic distinction and not relevant here. People who want to try and monetise their blogs, need to either wait for the WP com advert upgrade package (if ever it comes) or switch to third party hosting. The logic that just because WP provides you with a platform they should also let you make money from their investment completely escapes me. WP dot com exists so that they can make money. Nothing wrong with that. We are all capitalists. But we are not in any sense *customers*. Users, possibly. And OT anyone who was seriously interested in money making blogs would need a lot more control over themes, plugins, content, SEO and the server hackery necessary to do the job than is available at com. This dialogue gets really tedious after the first 100 or so threads.
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If someone said I will pay you $xx to display my company name, of course I would take it. Why wouldn't you?I moved all of my blogs to self hosting not so long ago because i needed extra features not available here. I keep my blogs here as legacy and back up ones. I was recently offered £500 by Tokyopop and £800 by ADV for ad space on my blog.
This is what i said to each of them:
While i appreciate the fact you feel my blog is of sufficient standard to seek to place ads for your respective companies on, I must decline. I write reviews of anime and manga because i love them, not because i seek to make any money from it. When i started my blog i made a promie to my readers that i would never seek to earn money from my reviews, nor would i bombard them with ads; whether relevant or otherwise. I stand by that promise even now. My soul purpose of writing my reviews is to share my love, or hate, of the manga and anime ive seen. It's a hobby, and so long as it stays a hobby i do not require paying for it. In short, i do it because i love it, and for no other reason. Should you wish to support my site through other means, please do contact me again and i'll be more than happy to discuss the matter.I then go on to discuss what kind of support i’d accept.
I do not blog for money, I blog simply because i want to share my views on an aspect of culture i love. Initially i didnt care whether people read my blog or not, but as soon as i started hiting 500 views a day, i relised i needed to move from WP.com to make the most of a lot of features that aren’t available here (Thumbnail Viewer for example). I have an excellent host and i absorb the cost of it myself, the day i cant cover the cost i’ll either reduce my package or move to alternative hosting. I will never have ads, I don’t even allow the sponsored ads in my theme, i routed them out and deleted them.
I am not a non-profit, but just getting compensated for my time to provide the services and recommendations.Blogging isnt meant to be a business, if you kept a diary would you expect to be paid for it? How long does it take you to write the few lines of content you have in each post? A few minutes at most, almost all of your content is 1 paragraph long, hardly novel sized is it?
And yes, it is your content, however they provide the basis for that content. They decided what can and can not be used on their platform. They don’t want ads because it will just bring in spammers and sploggers, thats their choice. They built the software, they’re giving you FREE use of it, so it’s upto them if they want to deny the use of ads.
As i said earlier, if you want ads so baddly, toddle off elsewhere, there are several other WordPressMU sites that allow ads, go join one of them.
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Thanks for your opinion. If I kept a diary and was going to let others read it, then yes I would expect to be paid for it. And that is what many other people would think as well. We just think differently than you. No problem.
I think it funny that you keep trying to get me to “toddle off elsewhere” like I might convince WP to allow ads. I am already elsewhere. I stopped using WP because they won’t allow me to place ads. All I am doing is making my suggestion. I like WP’s platform and if they would allow ads I would bring all my blogs here.
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i want to put ads too, just for the little extra money i could use. but i love wordpress so i’m with you on this. i’m torn.
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Not really, we’re just fed up to the back teeth of people coming in and asking the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
Gets annoying dosent it? Now iagine it 100 times worse and that what you’ll have with us and ads. It’s been answered to death already. Why people feel the need to keep asking it rather than use the huge searh button is beyond me. Maybe its cause they’re all idiots.
Also, as has been said before, unless your having hundereds of thousands of hits, the money you earnt from ads would bearly buy you a pint of beer. More people ignore ads, or use firefox’s built in adbuster (which prevents them from even showing up) so you’ll get even less these days. But if you genuinely believe you’ll make money from them, ive a huge diamond here i’d love to sell you :)
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