Anyone else having problems with the New Notifications Layout
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This is the core issue: “We care about giving our users a streamlined and consistent experience across their devices. Unlike the old design, our new notifications look practically identical whether you are looking at them on a computer or on your Android or iOS device.”
They want everything to look and work the same wether it’s on a mobile phone or a home PC with a wide screen monitor. There’s some logic and appeal to that approach. However, the is a much better one that will keep everyone happy. Give us 3 options: 1) The universal format for all computers and devices. 2) An option that is BEST SUITED for computers. 3) An option best suited to mobile devices.
I use a laptop with an external, larger, wide-screen monitor. For me the experience of using a vertical format for a small screen sucks. I don’t have a mobile device with online capacity, and I don’t really want one. I prefer NOT to be plugged into the internet at all times.
I like to sit down at my desk, and when I compose a blog post, well, it’s a pretty serious activity. I do research; I seek photos and edit and combine them in Photoshop; I add text to photos; and I do a lot of editing and re-editing of my text. The best way for me to write a post is with the old (now nonexistent) full screen mode that allowed me to use all of my monitor.
Why not retain these possibilities for people over 30 who want to do serious blogging and need to be able to see what they are doing? Any post I do has a good chance of ending up a “long read”.
Who the hell blogs on a mobile device anyway? How do you type? It’s one thing to view blogs on a mobile device, but to compose a sophisticated post?
Maybe mobile devices are the way of the future, but I’m a digital artist, and I like a big screen to look at. And I like to investigate matters in depth, and not just read a tweet which is always going to be an assertion rather than an argument.
Superficiality is the future, apparently. Dumb down folks. Dumb down while you still can!
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Exactly. The new format makes it impossible to do any in-depth writing or conduct any in-depth discussion.
Which is good for WP, evidently — they get to have a lot of chatter without using up a whole lot of storage space.
Perhaps I won’t renew all the “stuff” I’m paying for at WP when renewal time comes around. The notification system was one of the BEST features of WP.
Till now.
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@erickuns My sentiments exactly! And furthermore, I’m a stickler for layout. I choose, resize, and rearrange images. I edit for line breaks, widows, and orphans. I try different font sizes. I stick in pull quotes. Etc., etc., etc. It does no good to write something worthwhile if it isn’t presented in an attractive, inviting way. I’m publishing, not merely tweeting or socializing or “curating.” And I make do, barely, on a 15″ laptop. If mobile devices are the future of electronic publishing, then I’m a dodo bird and just haven’t admitted it yet.
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Hi there.
The article is now open for comments.
http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2015/01/20/notifications-improved/Go—> and comment.
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Thanks for letting us know, galois. There are quite a few comments there already approved and many dislike the “new” changes.
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Hi all –
As @galois mentioned, comments are now open on this post:
Sorry if this wasn’t the case when it was originally posted. We have staff actively participating in the comments section.
I didn’t see a response to this question, “Why not have a “mark all read” button?”
Sorry if I missed this earlier. I have passed this bit of feedback on. It’s on our list of future improvements!
My comment and many others were not “approved” until days after leaving our comments on the “new” Stats post because by then no one would see them.
That’s definitely not intentional. It looks like your comment is approved here:
Let me clarify. I would like the dropdown notifications list to show only new notifications.
I understand. I’m not sure if we’re going to move in this direction, but I’ll pass the feedback along. I just tried out some other notification systems (Facebook and Medium for example). I haven’t found one that only shows new notifications without an option for also seeing older notifications.
I’m responding to constructive critiques on how we can improve on the current notifications. I’ll definitely pass along the feedback regarding the archive link.
For right now, we don’t have plans to make the editor/notification/stats page preference a setting. The editor setting will remain cookie-based.
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@jeremeylduvall Thank you for your reply. Let me reiterate: I have less than no interest in my WP notifications list performing like Facebook and Medium. I want WordPress acting like the elegant, comprehensive blogging platform it has always been — NOT like social media. If I wanted social media, I’d leave WP and go there.
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@jeremeylduvall and @windwhistle:
Thank you for your reply. Let me reiterate: I have less than no interest in my WP notifications list performing like Facebook and Medium. I want WordPress acting like the elegant, comprehensive blogging platform it has always been — NOT like social media. If I wanted social media, I’d leave WP and go there.
Hear hear! Thank you for saying this, Windwhistle. I feel like no one at WP is listening seriously to this matter. What drew me to WordPress to begin with was that it was DIFFERENT from social media. It had more substance, more elegance, more potential for in-depth exploration. Slowly but surely, WordPress is losing that edge.
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Omg the ipad app notifications isn’t working. It keeps saying connection has timed out. I’m getting tired of this. It’s making me rethink all the commenting and following I do. It’s too much of a pain.
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It’d like everything WP does these days: amateurish, irritating tinkering and not an improvement!
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@jeremeylduvall,
On the notification blog post, my (negative) comment, with specific details, was posted several hours ago and is still awaiting moderation. Three positive comments, with not much more detail than “I like it”, have been posted and approved since then.Also the blog posting guidelines specifically say the comments section are not to be used for bug problems. Yet when posters cite problems with the new notification and stats functions, the staff responding are asking for details of OS and devices. In other words, treating it like a bug report..
It would be nice if WP would follow its own commenting guidelines, and moderate and respond to the comments appropriately and fairly.
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“we’re committed to improving the new notifications so that they’re even better than the old version”
That says it all, doesn’t it? We are committed to making you like the new system. We are not open to reverting to a system that worked really well, or offering it as an option, or retaining a commitment to non-tablet users.
Just like beep boop.
And there is no point whatsoever in participating in these forums, or responding to requests for feedback about the new stats system or anything else, because it is a complete waste of our time. -
Another annoying thing is that there is now nothing to tell me that I have replied to a comment.
I completely fail to understand how WP can make what they call improvements whilst leaving out all the previous useful functions.
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Thank you for your reply. Let me reiterate: I have less than no interest in my WP notifications list performing like Facebook and Medium. I want WordPress acting like the elegant, comprehensive blogging platform it has always been — NOT like social media. If I wanted social media, I’d leave WP and go there.
That’s my fault for putting that comparison in place. I didn’t mean to compare WordPress.com to those services. I just was commenting on how notifications work overall across different platforms. At this point, there is no plan in place to display only new notifications in the notification bar.
Omg the ipad app notifications isn’t working. It keeps saying connection has timed out. I’m getting tired of this. It’s making me rethink all the commenting and following I do. It’s too much of a pain.
This sounds like a separate bug report. I’m reaching out via private email to collect some more information!
On the notification blog post, my (negative) comment, with specific details, was posted several hours ago and is still awaiting moderation. Three positive comments, with not much more detail than “I like it”, have been posted and approved since then.
This definitely wasn’t intentional! I went ahead and approved your comment. It can be seen here:
Also the blog posting guidelines specifically say the comments section are not to be used for bug problems. Yet when posters cite problems with the new notification and stats functions, the staff responding are asking for details of OS and devices. In other words, treating it like a bug report..
You’re definitely correct; we try to keep the comment section on the blog away from bug reports. With a feature release like this, however, it’s an opportunity to collect feedback from others that might not open forum threads or contribute to discussions like this one. We certainly don’t want to open the flood-gates for bug reports, and we’ll move conversations to private threads when necessary. But, it can be useful for initial feedback when we release something new like notifications.
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If something works fine, leave it alone don’t mess with it… Seems WordPress assumes we are all using Tablets or mobiles. I for one blog using my PC…
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Please please please ADD the ability to like, approve, trash, spam, and edit comments back to the notifications list when they drop down. It is beyond a painful to have to click and edit each one individually. Why would you even think to take this usability away?
I hadn’t had issues with the new system until now, unlike the stats changes.
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