Beep Beep Boop screen is a joke. Is this a glitch?
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A lot of software has tablet/smartphone and big screen versions, however you define them. Why can’t WP just say: we’re going to have both?
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Since the topic is beep beep boop, you could always google for
Urban Dictionary beep beep boop
and
Urban Dictionary beep-boop
:-)
cheers/Rolf
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@WordPress.com staff! PLEASE! Give us an option in the blog’s settings (section “write”) like this:
o Use the shiny new “beep loading beep things boop” editor
o Use the almost fully functional “old/classic” editoras your default editor for
o new blog postings and pages
o editing already published postings and saved drafts
o bothIt would be easy like that and you could close peacefully this thread in my honest opinion (and open a separate one for each bug in the boop thingy).
Thanks in advance. Have a nice summer.
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@gracejiyoung wrote:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/beep-beep-boop-screen-is-a-joke-is-this-a-glitch/page/16?replies=493#post-1997000@gracejiyoung, a simple question: since the new edit has many bugs, you are going to keep the old editor? (Dasboard-> Posts-> Add new)
a) yes
b) no
c) do not know / no answerThe old editor will be available as we work on the new editor.
So in other words, once the bugs have been ironed out and the new editor is working as it should do, the old editor will vanish… never to be seen again.
Time to look for another host, I think… and it no use going to wordpress.org because eventually once they get this new editor to work they will bring out a new release of WordPress to install which will get rid of the old editor.
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I like every entry I’ve read on this thread prefer the current/old (dash->post->add) editor, beep-beep-boop is simply far below standards and designwise it is terryfyingly “talking down to customers”. Please don’t change something which works.
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@brenr1958: you hit the nail on the head. The old editor will go away, it is clear that there is a technology switch coming and they will not keep two completely different systems running. But maybe the new editor with time will become better, who knows?
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I hate this new editor – it takes a lot of time to load, and it lacks the easy internal link feature.
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@ztrewq “maybe the new editor with time will become better”:
People have been complaining about one-click tasks now needing anything up to ten clicks to execute, one-screen tasks now needing flitting back and forth between screens all the time, and other such stuff.
This seems to me to be *structures*, things you can’t really improve on. You have to choose, either you keep the structure and thus keep the problem, or you change to another structure. In this case, changeing to another structure would likely mean reverting to the old, good one. And then why make a beepbeepboop editor at all?
I’m sorry to say I suspect they will keep the problems.
cheers/Rolf
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@rolfstr: as far as I understand, you need these additional clicks to get to the old editor, so for example instead of clicking on the pencil icon (which now would launch the beebop), you need to click on dashboard->posts->search for the post->edit. This is what I have been complaining about, for example. Clearly, if there is no old editor, there are no additional clicks :-)
As for why make the beebop editor, I think that is quite clear — I put forward a hypothesis a few posts back in this thread.
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Besides the impression of blogging in Teletubby Land and no longer be considered a grownup by WordPress developers, there’s two more major flaws I haven’t seen mentioned by crossreading this thread:
1. There’s no field to add or edit sub-headlines as is in the “classic” (read: fully functional) editor. Haha, how funny!
2. When I edit a post with an embedded video (I tested it with a Youtube video), the embed turns into a link to the video. That’s even more funny! I mean, in Teletubby standards.
And for the records, I agree with each and every point of criticism voiced in this thread, this Blue Beep Bop Blup Desert Of Doom is by far the worst “development” I’ve ever seen on this platform. It’s not a step but a huge leap backwards, and makes me wonder if any of these developers even blog by themselves. I can’t imagine that anyone who’s ever used the “classic” tools would find it a good idea to downgrade the functionality, feel and look in such an absurd extent.
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I don’t like the new post editor.
I need to open one-by-one to use the right hand side function.
There is error when i want to add media.
I am using Safari on iMac, no Flash install. -
First of all, I was very happy to find a link to the old editor when I went to test edit one of my posts today, so thank you for hearing us there.
However, IMO it isn’t ideal since you still 1) have to wait to “load all the things” (granted, this only takes five seconds for me on 10 Mbit broadband, but the old editor was almost instantaneous), then click on the “classic” link and wait for that interface to load and 2) have to do this for every. single. post. It would be much better if we could choose which editor we want to use as standard in Settings and didn’t have to go through the new one at all.
Then again… from what you said a couple of pages back, it sounds like this is temporary and the old editor will be gone as soon as staff thinks the new one is fixed (“The old editor will be available as we work on the new editor.”). And that makes this paying customer very apprehensive about the future.
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I am glad to notice some improvements, but dismayed that once this is ‘fixed’ the old editor will presumably vanish. My issues so far:
1. One thing I dislike about the new editor is it in the blue blog reader type screen, rather than in the dashboard, actual blog type screen. This has been said before, but in a different way.
2. I totally agree about being able to adjust the width, not just the height of the box please. Full screen is not a viable alternative to this as it is then too big! And no access to the sidebar.
3. I will want to be able to preview in a new tab like the old version, not a popup – people have popups blocked for a reason! I have made an exception for WP now, but I had to ask my husband how to do it and I am sure plenty of your users will also not be sure how to do this and may not want to take the trouble to find out. Bear in mind a lot of people are lazy or afraid of computers and just want to keep doing things the way they have been taught, many computer users are not taught how to figure things out for themselves.
4. More buttons visible for fewer clicks and less scrolling is in general always a good rule – what happened to the rule of thumb that each click makes people give up? I want to see everything I might need and be able to click on it immediately I need it, not have to figure out/remember where it is and then click and scroll to reach it, that is always going to be tedious and frustrating!
5. Another request for return of word count.
6. While it loads fairly fast on my system compared to others it is still a delay I don’t want. Delay is frustrating and undesirable. I do not understand why technology does not do more to eliminate it, it seems to me that there is more delay now than there was ten years ago (not just with computers). I am not happy about this trend.
Also what is a slug? So far as I know it is a homeless snail :) And please remember that for each of us bothering to comment, or able to find where and how to comment, there are a hundred or more users who don’t bother or have no idea how to do it.
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The thing that stands out the most about this Beep Beep Boop imbroglio is the attitude of WordPress management. It’s not merely that someone thought the new editor was a good idea. Maybe it is for some people, but it’s not for everyone. A misjudgment like that is difficult to understand, but these things happen. For all I know, Beep Beep Boop is great programming. But programming isn’t the problem. Nor is the problem that the new editor was installed with no warning and no trial period.
The real problem is that when there was an immediate storm of protest, management seemed unable to grasp that they had erred. They got stubborn and stayed with their decision — being willing only to fix Beep Beep Boop’s bugs. But I don’t care about its bugs. To me it was like a newly available theme — one with a Flintstones motif — that didn’t appeal to me for my blog. I wouldn’t want to try it even if it were bug-free. And I wouldn’t like it one bit if WordPress decided that the Flintstones theme would now be required for everyone. No one decided to blog here for anything like that.
Fortunately, one of Beep Beep Boop’s bugs was an overlooked backdoor method to access the old editor, which could still be used for making new posts (although not for editing old ones), so things remained tolerable, albeit ridiculously clumsy.
It took an incredible two days for the old editor to be reluctantly restored as an option, while Beep Beep Boop remains the new WordPress standard. If it were that way from the beginning, how many of us would have chosen to blog here? Further, there’s little doubt that the “classic” editor’s days are numbered.
So the real problem is that the programmers have shaken our confidence in WordPress. Although the developers are probably good at programming, maybe someone else should making management and customer relations decisions.
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@sensuouscurmudgeon “The thing that stands out the most about this Beep Beep Boop imbroglio is the attitude of WordPress management.”
It couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch of people. :-)
No, but seriously, I think that this is a common thing. It happens everywhere at times, no matter whether the place is Open Source or commercial. The same thing happened at Opera A/S, when they decided to change the rendering engine of their Opera web browser from their own to Chrome’s. The forum posts complaining at how they handled it must be counted in the tens of thousands by now. No turning back. (The browser will surely be a fine browser some time next year.)
We shall have to wait and see, meanwhile continuing to give our traditional irate feedback.
cheers/Rolf
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So the only ‘solution’ was someone from WP sent me this link… So I guess I can add all my issues to the ones they still haven’t fixed from you people… Helpful.
1. Can’t preview a post as it’s a ‘pop-up blocked’
2. The auto-post-to-twitter box is EMPTY so I can’t just edit it — it’s not THERE. There’s also no where else to get the shortlink.
3. The editor takes ages to load and sometimes crashes Chrome.
4. You no longer have the side bar!!!!!!!!!! The quickest way to get to already drafted posts was “new post” then “all posts” — which is now no longer accessible!
5. The drop-down tags box is so tricky to use because it pushes the scroll section down the page as you use it!
6. There’s no scroll bar inside the actual editor. I seem to remember having problems before so I’m not sure if it’s new, but it sucks either way.
7. The publish/timing sections are confusing and bulky. The entire interface is bulky and thus too big for a screen, which is a pain to scroll for miles. And the publish button is now right at the bottom of the page! REALLY?!
8. Everything is so randomly placed! Put the schedule and sticky and publish statuses all in the same area again!Thank goodness there magically appears to be a “use classic mode” button. Which you have to click EVERY SINGLE TIME.
9. Make the “classic option” save, or even put it back to automatically be classic since you have 18 pages of problems with this beta-editor which clearly isn’t ready for the public yet.
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The programmers of wordpress are testing our patience. Users with a low intelligence will be blocked out now with “Beep beep boop”. There are a lot more obstacles they threw in our editing way. My comment: “Sigh!!!”
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