Beep Beep Boop screen is a joke. Is this a glitch?
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@quarkone
With respect I think you are beating the ghost of a dead horse.The editor bundled into WordPress installs is the TinyMCE editor.
Staff of WordPress.COM have been developing an in-house editor of their own creation for WordPress.COM bloggers for over a year. Hence we are the BETA testing community. And, when the new editor for WordPress.COM is fully fledged the old editor referred to now as “classic” now will be history.
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And, when the new editor for WordPress.COM is fully fledged the old editor referred to now as “classic” now will be history.
Can you point to where Staff have indicated that they are going to remove the TinyMCE “classic” editor, tt?
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Thanks for the clear-headed insight. I don’t disagree about that. I was simply disagreeing about how to weigh these 134 bloggers’ comments. There are countless reasons for a conversion of this sort, and I don’t expect a roll back. A little more experience in the PR and planning departments would be helpful, however.
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justjennifer asks:
Can you point to where Staff have indicated that they are going to remove the TinyMCE “classic” editor, tt?
Specifically, gracejiyoung said:
The old editor will be available as we work on the new editor.
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I find some of your answers a bit defeatist. As one of the most authoritative and presumably influential volunteers here, whom Staff presumably read, you could do more (without spending more time!) to project the feelings which are stated here.
ztrewq is absolutely right in his entry on August 15, worth looking at on page 17. We are not customers. We are the product. Cattle don’t have a voice. So we need volunteers to amplify our points – which they do, but in this case could do more loudly.
WP is barely noticing all this. They rely on one, maybe 2, staff members to read this Forum and identify “issues”. The bigger picture doesn’t register with them.
Aren’t they ashamed that we are spending all this time and all these thousands of words telling them what is so badly wrong with an editor they did not even test?
Where is the culture of excellence at WP? Of getting things right first time?
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TimeThief, I think it is important to understand those of us who are complaining have stated those complaints clearly. The reasons for those complaints have been ‘pro-active’ and they have constructive.
1) Functions we rely upon have been removed.
2) Those of us who use media are unable to do so in the new editor.
3) Those of us who use our entire screen do to low vision are not able to see due to the ‘shrink’ of the new editor.
4) Those of us who pay for premium services and themes are seeing those services and themes don’t functions as they should.What may not be recognized is of those of us who complained we might be the only ones who want to stay with WordPress because of the communities we have built here. It doesn’t mean we won’t migrate, when WordPress finally diminishes / degrades services and functions to the point it is worse than Tumblr or Blogger only that we are hoping to save it from doing so.
To tell paying clients their voices is irrelevant is not only poor customer service it misses the point of service orientation. It is entirely irrelevant how long the developers have been working on this juvenile and dysfunctional downgrade. What matters is does it improve services, functions or improve the customer experience. In all points, it does not.
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Oooze, the “new editor' — nameless, faceless, and hiding behind curtains of code — has taken it upon him/her/itself — without consulting with me as blog author and poster — to remove numerous images from past posts I've made on several of my WP blogs. This has only happened since Beep-Beep-Boop sauntered into the scene from some dysfunctional place.WP: I would like all my images — and yes, even the old internal scrollbar with all the other “classic” functions — returned immediately to their rightful places. And, no, I will not post nor offer any kind of reward for the return of these missing items and functions… Oh, wait, I've already paid for them! Oh dang! Oh dash! Oh gosh-all-Satuday! Well, at this point of pointlessness, I guess all I can hope for is that one of us who cares and is savvy enough will contact a wise legal wonder who will take this whole beep-beep-boop debacle in hand and immediately organize a class action suit against WordPress on behalf of those who pay and have paid for one thing whilst being deceived into receiving another. As I see it, we have been defrauded of our own creative works and intellectual properties. Alack and alas! Good ole faithful WordPress becomes Worstpress! Nay, nay… say it is not so!
Susan Powers Bourne
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I was greeted with the new “beep beep” editor and promptly moved to back to classic mode. Why? Because it is a giant step backwards.
– No proofreader
– No word count
– Post status defaults to Publish. Seriously? Does anyone publish on the first draft?
– Cannot preview in full screen. I block all pop-ups so I can’t preview at all.
– It stripped out code that I had entered to add spaces
– It’s slow to save.This looks like a ‘quick-post’ editor, not a full editor by any means. It’s insulting to think I want to post my carefully composed articles the same way I would put up a comment on facebook.
I use the HTML editor, not the visual editor, and like full control of my code. The only solution for me is a full featured editor. It doesn’t have to be the old one, but needs all the features of the classic editor. Or just retain the classic editor as an option and not sneakily retire it in the middle of the night. Perhaps the solution for me is to move to wordpress.org where I have more control, but I have resisted doing that because I like the interaction with the wordpress.com community.
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I have gone back to the classic editor as well. The new one is far to small and what was perhaps designed to be a “streamlined” look took away many of the very useful features of the old editor. In addition I hate not having the links to navigate on the left hand side. I often open media library and change widgets from my post editor. The classic editor is great- there may be ways to make it better, but this isn’t it!
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I completely lost a post in the new editor when the screen refreshed for no reason. The old editor autosaved every few moments. The new one doesn’t at all. This new posts editor is horrible.
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@twindaddy44
Go to Dashboard > Posts > All Posts and there you ought to be able to recover a lost post or page from revisions if needs be.
http://en.support.wordpress.com/posts/post-revisions/
See also if applicable > restoring from trash http://en.support.wordpress.com/trash/#restoring-from-trash(If you are referring to a Page then see here > http://en.support.wordpress.com/pages/page-revisions/)
If you cannot locate a revision or restore from Trash the content has been lost and cannot be recovered.
I recommend:
Always create your posts on the dashboard of your own blog at
Dashboard > Posts > All Posts > Add New
Immediately after creating a post and entering a title click the save draft link. Thereafter, “click save draft” frequently.
Always allow pages to fully load before clicking any other links.
Never leave a post or page open for content creation or editing and walk away from it, or open another tab in the same blog and work on something else while it is still open. Save it properly and return to edit it later.
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24 pages later and WordPress does not care that they have wiped out any joy of blogging here anymore. They totally disregard the fact that they have implemented a new editor that is BROKEN.
Why Fix Something That Wasn’t Broke To Begin With???
As another has stated make THE OLD EDITOR the DEFAULT one that you get instantly, with a button that allows people who adore difficulty to pick new dysfunctional new editor.
This is all absurd and a total waste of our time and insults our intelligence.
Infuriating.
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Thank you WordPress.com!! You brought the old editor back!
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So, after only a few minutes of frustration trying to use the new editor, I reverted to the classic one.
The classic one does everything that I need and does it well; the new one simply didn’t.
Including an image full size did not work – it was still resized. Trying to add tags was fiddly and cumbersome (where has autocomplete gone, for instance?). Trying to preview a post simply did not work properly. The screen layout and usability are poor – why all the extra clicks to access items on the right-hand bar for example?
All in all, the new offering was pretty rubbish.
Please, WordPress, keep the classic editor available and DO NOT sunset it in the future.
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@davidderrick
Strictly speaking the old classic editor never went away. If you choose to use the old editor, your preference is remembered in a cookie and the next time you edit/create a post you will automatically get the old editor.But if you use new post in the admin bar, or if you clear cookies, you’ll get beep Boop (with the option to switch).
Still bonkers though, but make the most of it.
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Thanks, but my point, and I think andyliving’s, is that I am now getting the old editor no matter what.
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