Beep Beep Boop screen is a joke. Is this a glitch?
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Oh right. I haven’t seen that thread – I was less angry about the scroll bar than I was about the beep boop poop editor! :-P
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I see. I haven’t seen that thread so you’ve done me and others a huge favour! :-)
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Apologies for the double post there folks. The first message disappeared then appeared after I sent the second one! >.<
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Thanks @galois :) and @sensuouscurmudgeon! IMO gracejiyoung didn’t give a definitive answer for what lies ahead.
@windwhistle-understood and thanks for the answer. It’s just that when it comes to forum replies, I prefer to avoid speculation, especially in a thread as emotionally charged as this one has become.
After nearly 8 years here, many of us old-timers know that WPcom is an ever-changing environment. Either one accepts the changes or one moves on. With 147 separate individuals posting on this topic (with 722 posts so far, not including this one), that’s actually a drop in the proverbial WPcom bucket.
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@justjennifer
From https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/beep-beep-boop-screen-is-a-joke-is-this-a-glitch/page/15?replies=660#post-1997000@gracejiyoung, a simple question: since the new edit has many bugs, you are going to keep the old editor? (Dasboard-> Posts-> Add new)
a) yes
b) no
c) do not know / no answerThe old editor will be available as we work on the new editor.
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@galois, The internal scrollbar “fix” does not stay after I’ve saved/updated a post.
@dandelionsalad: as I said in my case the software remember my choice
At least so far.@justjennifer: You’re welcome. :)
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700-odd posts from 150 people is not “a drop in the proverbial WPcom bucket”, since most people don’t ever think of protesting or haven’t noticed the change. It may be the highest protest ever recorded here. And lousy is lousy no matter what the numbers!
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Oooze: The old editor will be available as we work on the new editor.
And, uh, questions asked many, many times and still unanswered:
1. When will NE (New Editor) actually work as it is/was intended?
2. Why not reinstate OE (Old Editor) as default now in the interim?
3. Why not offer users a real, functioning choice between OE or NE?
4. When will WP conduct a survey to poll all of its users’ preferences?
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@tt, as I said, I may reach a different conclusion from reading that sentence than other people do, but thanks for pointing it out.
@davidderrick-yes, that is true, which may be a comment on the number of people who have actually noticed the change and/or the number of people who are actively blogging in the New Dash Post Editor. I’m actually rather surprised at the number of people who post via the New Dash, which, personally, I avoid at all cost just for the very reasons that have been pointed out in this thread. :)
My only contribution here was to point out that I didn’t appreciate having all my Admin Bar New Post links (referring to those that appear here in the forums) hijacked to the New Dash New Post editor rather than my site’s Dashboard “Classic” Editor. So far, that’s been resolved (somewhat).
As WPcom Staff have said over and over in this thread, they are grateful for the feedback they’re receiving here.
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And here’s another Staff reply:
We recently updated quite a few links to point to our new editor at http://wordpress.com/post. That sounds like the page you’re describing. The new editor is our updated editor that we’ll be focusing on and improving going forward. However, as you mention, you can still access the old editor through the method you described.
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/admin-bar-11?replies=11#post-1995594
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@davidderrick: Bravo!
The facts and fallacies of this beep-beep-boop debacle are the facts and fallacies of this debacle, no matter how few or how many speak — however elgantly or inelegantly — to NE’s non-functioning nature, as well as its most disruptive effects on past and present posts — and posters. This is not a matter of quantity but one of quality. Those of us who pay and have paid for quality services would like those same quality services continued — not suddenly changed, fiddled with, and so consistently and regrettably diminished by Hidden Developers and Happiness Engineers. Come out from behind those curtains of codes and disclaimers — face and listen with respect to your unhappy users.
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@tt, as I said, I may reach a different conclusion from reading that sentence than other people do, but thanks for pointing it out.
JJ & TT:
IMHO, @gracejiyoung chose (with elegance & charme) not to give me a clear answer. And so, can be interpreted different things. -
an aside: nothing displeases a virgo writer more than the inability to correct a typo, as is the case with posts here. of course, it’s ‘elegantly’ and not ‘elgantly’… but, then again, that was part of what I was saying, wasn’t it? language use and misuse included, all the comments and sentiments expressed here on based on our individual and collective uses and experiences… thus, they are real and valid enough to heed.
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I read somewhere else that WP did not dump the beep beep boop editor into the laps of all the wordpress.com users, but only to some, to use us as guinea pigs.
If that is true I suppose we should be grateful.
We are The Chosen Few…cheers/Rolf
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One aspect of this whole experience that has yet to be mentioned (as far as I can tell): Have others also felt — aside from a strong desire to scream at the screen — that the three little beep-beep-boop bubbles (sounds more and more like some 21st century fairy tale, doesn’t it?) actually snych with and imitate the rhythm of the heartbeat? Perhaps we are unwitting and unwillilng subjects in a controlled experiment of some kind. Think about it for a moment: What is it you feel — if you can put your anger and frustration aside for a few moments — if you just sit there in front of the screen and simply watch the beep-beep-boop bubbles bob up and down? After two or three episodes of 20-30 seconds each (which is all I’ve been able to bear so far…), I begin to feel quite odd… as if I could just sit there and watch bubbles all day. Maybe that’s what this is all about. After all is said and undone, if Facebook can “edit” which posts we receive on our walls each day (to include or exclude negative and/or positive content in order to see how that affects our own comments and responses…), then why think WP is somehow immune to undertaking such “free” experimentation?
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For those who have not posted into this thread previously:
Workarounds:
To create a new Post:When you go to the drop-down menu on the left of the grey Admin bar, and you get to NEW, instead of opening up the drop down menu options Page, Post, etc, just click the word New. Gets you straight to the fully featured dashboard editor.
To Edit a published Post:
Go to Dashboard > Posts > All Posts and go to the particular post, and click Edit. That gives you the full-featured editor.
Missing Features
We’re considering features like spellcheck, word count, proofread, revisions, and shortlink available in the new editor and if/how they should best be introduced into the new editor.…
The next time you select to use the classic editor instead of the new editor, we’ll remember it! From then on you’ll be directed back to the classic view instead, you won’t have to select it every time.
Note, if you end up having to clear your cookies for any reason, you’ll need to opt out of the new editor again.
From: https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/new-post-editor-improvements?replies=3
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susanbourne asks:
When will WP conduct a survey to poll all of its users’ preferences?
A poll about Beep Beep Boop would be interesting, but only if there’s some kind of filter regarding the responses. I’ve seen posts at the WordPress blog about utterly mundane developments, and a bunch of people will jump in and comment: “Oooooh, this is so cool!” But who knows what such a response really means? If it comes from someone with only five posts, three visitors, and a bunch spam comments selling Louis Vuitton shoes, well … the opinion may be sincere, but it doesn’t mean very much.
If there’s a poll about the new editor, there ought to be an effort to classify the responses so that it’s clear whether a response is coming from an experienced blogger or from someone who doesn’t yet know what’s going on. I’m not suggesting that management should only consider the opinions of those with millions of pageviews — although I think their reaction to Beep Beep Boop would be uniformly negative. A simple classification, like “Less than 100K pageviews,” and “100K pageviews or more” would give management some feel for judging who likes this change and who doesn’t. Otherwise, I don’t think a poll would be useful.
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Or, as I put it during a weekend lull, where is the culture of excellence at WP? Of getting things right first time?
It seems like most of the major defects have been pointed out. There are a couple I intend to follow up on, but (for sure) WP is losing no sleep at all. These are the ravings of the curmudgeons that they fully expect.
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@sensuouscurmudgeon: of course and I agree. there would need to be qualitative and quantitative polling and reports for this to be useful.
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