Beep Beep Boop screen is a joke. Is this a glitch?
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@justjennifer
I’m hoping your two important questions at https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/beep-beep-boop-screen-is-a-joke-is-this-a-glitch/page/27?replies=800#post-2002509 do not get lost in this thread.Going forward, when the New Dash Post Editor is complete, will community members still have access to the fully functional Classic Post Editor?
If so, will users be able to make the Classic Post Editor their default editor?
The answers to those two questions are key for those bloggers who will make the decision to stay hosted here or to self-host, and the sooner we get the definitive straight up yes or no the better.
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Your answer in regards to the preview screen has been:
This [blocking pop-ups] will need to be unblocked in order to view your Preview. If you need help with unblocking WordPress.com in your browser, please let me know and I’d be happy to give you further instructions.
Will this continue to be the case as WP moves forward with the new editor? I block pop-ups for good reason, and don’t wish to move backwards and unblock them, even for WP. Having the preview as a pop-up is inefficient and when I tested it, it takes longer to load than the preview we have in the “classic” editor. Since the new editor is no longer located on the dashboard, and since I don’t wish to unblock pop-ups, I have to click over to my dashboard to find the post so I can preview it. AND if I click All Posts, the saved post done on the new editor does not show up there. It is, however, under “Drafts” on the Home page of the dashboard.
Also, the new editor is still resizing my images to an unacceptable 300 x 229, requiring me to change them. Perhaps the staff of WP need to go have a look at some of the blogs out there to see what people are doing so they’ll have a better idea of what it is we need.
At any rate, why would should your users be forced to take additional steps in what WP is describing as “an easier way to create”? So far, I’ve found it to be much more work, even with the recent changes. I have continued to post using the old editor since none of the tests I’ve done with the new editor have had satisfactory results.
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Going forward, when the New Dash Post Editor is complete, will community members still have access to the fully functional Classic Post Editor?
Unfortunately, I don’t know the answer to this as nothing is set in stone as we move forward. We are taking all this feedback into consideration to improve the new editor, but whether it will fully replace and permanently remove the Classic editor is unknown at this moment.
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Hello Gracejiyoung,
Thank you for answering that important question that many of us have been wondering/asking, and I hope that once a decision is made about the fate of the Dashboard Editor that we will be informed immediately.
-John Jr
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Hi all,
You can now edit gallery type and view a preview of the gallery in the new editor as seen here:
Cheers!
Have you tried with a gallery with more than 3 pictured? I waited several minutes while the gallery was loading (I presume that is what the black rolling bar means). Then I got the “unresponsive script” message.
Back to the drawing board I’m afraid. Please ask your developers to test with galleries of say 20 pictures.
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Have you tried with a gallery with more than 3 pictured? I waited several
minutes while the gallery was loading (I presume that is what the black rolling bar means). Then I got the “unresponsive script” message.
Back to the drawing board I’m afraid. Please ask your developers to test with galleries of say 20 pictures.I was unable to reproduce this. I just tested this by adding 21 images to a gallery as seen here:
I was able to publish it as well:
If you are still having issues with this can you please open up a new thread?
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Following this gripping thread with fascination. Just had a thought. Maybe this is all a prelude to Automattic going public (doing an IPO)? As I understand it the excellent “classic” editor is a 3rd party product, and the Beep editor is an in-house replacement. If you were selling shares, you’d really need everything in-house. Hence all this. They knew it would be terrible, and as has been said many a time, we are now the beta testers. Just a thought, as I say … they deny it here http://blogs.wsj.com/venturecapital/2014/05/05/automattic-valued-at-1-16-billion-says-it-doesnt-need-ipo/.
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@gracejiyoung
“[popups] will need to be unblocked in order to view your Preview. If you need help with unblocking WordPress.com in your browser, please let me know”First, let me tell you we are all very grateful to have you here to help us, even when we gripe. :-)
As for popups, as far as I understand this thread, it tells you that we don’t need help with unblocking popups for WordPress.com, we need help with having the beep beep boop editor made into an editor that does *not* use popups.
We would really appreciate it if you could make WordPress se the light. Permanent access to the “classic” editor, and no popups, is the light at the end of the tunnel, after all.
cheers/Rolf
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@justjennifer
Unfortunately, I don’t know the answer to this as nothing is set in stone as we move forward. We are taking all this feedback into consideration to improve the new editor, but whether it will fully replace and permanently remove the Classic editor is unknown at this moment.Clear and understood.
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In anticipation of your reply, I have already added this as a separate thread, but am including it here also so that others can see.
1. Add New Post (Beep Beep Boop)
2. Go into text mode
3. Insert a gallery using the shortcode [gallery]
4. Go into Visual Mode.
There are now 36 images in my gallery (apparently) which I didnt add.Eureka moment.
While writing this, I have solved the problem in my earlier post in which I reported that Beep Beep Boop hung for several minutes “loading” a gallery.I now realise.
When Beep Beep Boop sees [gallery] it attempts to load every single image in the media library. (I have 12,000 in my primary blog, so no wonder it was taking a long time).@gracejiyoung.
Please, please dont say that WP are abandoning the old classic Gallery [gallery] in favour of the “new” style gallery [gallery ids="nnn,mmm,ddd,etc"].I have hundred of posts containing the shortcode [gallery] (which actually denotes a gallery of photos uploaded to the post).
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Unfortunately, I don’t know the answer to this as nothing is set in stone as we move forward. We are taking all this feedback into consideration to improve the new editor, but whether it will fully replace and permanently remove the Classic editor is unknown at this moment.
It´s a shame that this question is still not on the table and it´s an exclusion of all the voices here. This question should have high priority over everything else because as some people said, the answer to this question will be a destination sign for some of us.
I say it clearly as it is. I don´t manage my blog since some days as the whole issue with the new editor (like editing old posts, brings up the new editor that I dislike) made blogging difficult. I say it again. I do not accept the new editor and want to blog with the old one. Reasons have been mentioned several times by many people here. The new editor is intolerable for your long-term customers as you can see in this thead.
I just can quote and repeat something that someone wrote in this thread earlier because it´s a very good advice for for WordPress.com:
1) Company learns from customers it has made a mistake
2) Company admits mistake to customers
3) Company determines amount of time to fix mistake
4) Company tells customers it will fix mistake and its ETAI want to use my voice again to show you how important this whole issue is for me…
I want to have the possibility to save the old editor so that it is my default editor. I do not want to have this option saved by cookies. It should be saved on the servers. The old editor should stay for the backbone of the community.
It´s very sad to read the staff answers here because it looks like a slap in the face to those who supported and suggested your service for a long time.
How can companies be so stubborn? Bring the question on the table and tell us if you want to exclude us from the service with this design decision.
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I anticipated grace’s answer that implies the almost certain demise of the “Classic” editor. To see if I could manage to live with Beep Beep Boop, this morning I tried to post with it. Part of the resulting confusion was my own doing, because some of these issues have been addressed earlier in this thread, but I can’t easily scroll back to find them.
I copied my off-site draft into the visual editor by mistake. The final result ended up displaying the link codes, etc. Disaster. But that was my fault.
I couldn’t find the “save draft” button — if there is one. All I saw was “Publish.” Yeah, it’s somehow supposed to be saved in my browser, and if I go through several more contortions, I’ll be able to find it. That’s not acceptable.
I couldn’t preview my post. I know — popups. Phooey on them.
I ended up going back to “Classic” and starting over. If that option hadn’t been available, I would have had to quit blogging here as of this morning. It’s difficult to imagine why management would remove the classic editor. It can’t cost them anything to leave it the way it is. But it seems that the handwriting is on the wall.
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Popups and Cookies are rookie solutions. Hopefully there is something else in the works.
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I had to leave this thread for a few days just to cool off. I return to find it still being argued.
It appears to me that the Happiness Engineers and the staff member who is fielding all these questions have a few answers:
1. I was unable to reproduce this problem (means-we shall ignore it, as it does not exist.
2. I WAS able to reproduce this problem (means-it exists, but we shall ignore it.
3. Can you please explain to me in exquisite detail what problem you are experiencing (even though a hundred other people have already pointed it out, explained it in exquisite detail)
4. I passed this on to the developers (means absolutely nothing.)
5. I passed this on to the developers (means they will ignore it.)I truly wonder if WP. org is getting even a tenth of this backlash of WP.com users. I don’t believe they give a damn. We’ve finally figured out that we are the Beta testers-unpaid, unasked, and unappreciated. People who’ve paid for premium/their own domains are getting screwed.
There was a satirical song years ago (I don’t believe it was from Wierd Al Yankovic, but it was in the same vein) regarding AOL’s horrid service (which, in restrospect, Word Press seems to have adopted wholesale). One of the lines was “Sorry we boned you, but there’s nothing we can do.”
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Let me make this clear to the staff of WordPress because this doesn’t seem to be fully sinking in:
1) The changes to “classic” are counterproductive
2) I have not been productive at my blog since the BBB happened
3) My readers have been deprived of information I could have given themIf you’re not thinking of us — who create the content — how about thinking about the readers who come here, who you serve ads to? No readers, no ad sales, where the hell does your income go?
Someone said the “classic” editor is a third-party product? I find that difficult to believe. But even if it’s so, the BBB is such an abomination that it belongs on something like Tumblr, where people post a few lines and then an illustration — or just an illustration, without any words. It is unacceptable to foist that on veteran users here and expect us to accept it or to somehow “adjust” to it. It can’t be “adjusted” to.
I won’t be snowed here. The heart of WordPress is its CMS. Editors are just entry screens to that CMS. You can’t tell us it’s a choice between “classic” and BBB. If you want to sell that, then the logical extension is that you’ll be doing away with all your current apps as well as blocking access to the WordPress CMS by applications such as BlogDesk, Windows Live Writer, etc. Baloney, to be mild.
So no, I won’t buy this false choice. Someone screwed up here — and it must be fixed, period.
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I just want to thank Grace (?) for trying to answer all these questions – even if I don’t always like the answers.
Things do change. I realize that and, frankly, there are features that I’d like to see changed/added to the classic mode too. Nothing is perfect. I just hope that WP realized how important functionality is (over appearance) and that any changes are fully tested and retain features that some of use really need. I can learn a new format, but it needs to be reasonably efficient and allow me to produce quality pages with all the photos, video, formatting, etc. I want. I’ve always felt rather limited in WP, so am actually hoping for additional functionality over time. While the new posting module is currently a step backwards, I’m hoping it will end up being a step forward. But don’t take away the classic mode for a long time yet and fully beta test changes before imposing them on us!
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I would have thought that in the six years since the last upgrade disaster, WordPress’ management would have learned and matured:
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/04/04/that-loud-agonized-scream-its-me/
http://mikecane2008.wordpress.com/2008/04/04/wordpress-just-slammed-us-down/
I’ve been here since 2006, when free image storage was just 100MBs.
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Hi there!
The Featured Image selection now allows you to choose images from your Media > Gallery.
Cheers!
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Thank you, Grace, for attempting to answer our questions.
Thanks, alanase, for your comment and link to an article, see: https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/beep-beep-boop-screen-is-a-joke-is-this-a-glitch/page/27?replies=755#post-2002747 Very interesting article.
So far I’ve boycotted WP by not posting anything new since Aug. 8th.
All the editing I’ve done has been using the “classic” semi-functional editor. I do not like being an unpaid Beta-tester for the “new” blue editor that is mostly nonfunctional.
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