Beep Beep Boop screen is a joke. Is this a glitch?
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I can’t copy and paste on posts and that doesn’t help my situation.
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http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2014/03/16#.U_K-uGPTA40
This link is to a Doonesbury cartoon, published 16 March 2014, that sums up perfectly our problem with beepbeepboop and WordPress’s refusal to listen.
Too bad, indeed.
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Please, please, don’t retire the classic editor from the dashboard, or change it to the new BBB editor. I’ve been blogging with wordpress since 2006, I have 4 blogs, and I have a lot invested with WP. But I simply can’t use that new editor and do what I want to do.
I’m not adverse to changes that save time or make things easier, but for me, this was not an improvement. I understand that it may be for mobile users, but I will never write WP posts from my mobile or tablet. Call me old school, but I need a keyboard to think, and I need to be able to use the functions in the existing editor to create the type of posts that are best for my blogs.
I also really wish that the edit post on the post page still took me to the old editor and not BBB. That is quite a time waster, as I know have to go to dashboard, all posts and find the post.
Perhaps you could enable a way for us to simply chose which editor we prefer and set it as our default? Then everyone would be happy.
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So, you are saying that with the New Editor, drafts are saved in the browser itself and not on the server, right?
If that is the case, how would one revise (including publishing) drafts from different computers?
Surely drafts have to be “in the cloud” so that you can access them whenever and wherever you choose. Why would WP throw away all the obvious advantages to the user of server-side storage by shifting to a client-side approach for this?
Can you imagine if Google Docs decided to severely limit the availability of its service by forcing its users to start saving drafts only on a single instance of a browser on a single device? That would just be a ludicrous decision.
It seems that your devs and management really ought to have a fundamental rethink on the architecture of the New Editor rather than just tinkering around the edges with ‘improvements’.
Or make a clear an unambiguous commitment that the good old Classic Editor will be here to stay as trusty alternative.
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@gracejiyoung-
but whether it will fully replace and permanently remove the Classic editor is unknown at this moment
Given the feedback in this post, if the Classic Editor is removed, that will be a deal breaker for a lot of people here.
@alanase-
Maybe this is all a prelude to Automattic going public (doing an IPO)?
I don’t imagine that the New Post Editor is being developed as a lark. And while I really detest speculation, that is a very salient point you’ve made.
@knashermac2009-
Please, please dont say that WP are abandoning the old classic Gallery [gallery] in favour of the “new” style gallery [gallery ids="nnn,mmm,ddd,etc"].
I have hundred of posts containing the shortcode [gallery] (which actually denotes a gallery of photos uploaded to the post).
The “new” Gallery shortcode has been around since November 2012! It is a huge improvement to the previous iterations. Here’s why:
http://agallerydemo.wordpress.com/2012/12/16/media-update-multiple-galleries-and-single-images/
http://agallerydemo.wordpress.com/2013/01/22/media-update-slideshows-simplified/
The simple [gallery] shortcode should continue to work as long as the images were uploaded to the post they appear in, which you say they were. I haven’t encountered any problems with the old code yet.
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The BBB loading animation is a time-waster, as the classic mode loads faster (more efficiently). I’ve always preferred the dashboard, and though I have had to gain steps in some processes, this new change is the most detrimental – posting now takes many more steps than it should.
I am not adverse to change and learning new ways of doing things if it makes posting/reviewing more convenient and “frictionless.” But, for the first time, I’m considering leaving WordPress. I post daily, and it feels like there are more bad updates than ones that improve the blogging experience. Good design is best when it’s hidden. The mobile app also has not improved since I last provided feedback regarding abandoned efficiencies. Are WordPress designers also bloggers?
Finally, I know you’re working on “remembering” preferences. However, my preference for the classic mode is not holding.
Thank you, Y
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>>>If that is the case, how would one revise (including publishing) drafts from different computers?
Thanks for bringing that up. I hadn’t even considered that. More than once I’ve used more than one computer to work on a post — sometimes having the post open in both computers simultaneously, sometimes counting on the Draft being in the Cloud for later access.
This disaster just keeps growing.
And it’s now Tuesday. I just tried the “classic” — ADULT — editor. the unchecked Screen Option still isn’t remembered after Save Draft. My patience is running out.
When the 2.5 upgrade turned into a disaster, WordPress had all hands on deck to fix it. They don’t seem to care at all this time.
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Not saving drafts on the WordPress servers, and not showing previews the way they’re done in “classic” mode both seem to be efforts to reduce the use of WordPress servers. Maybe some of Beep Beep Boop’s other features have that goal too. It’s an understandable purpose, but it shouldn’t be implemented if it makes it difficult or impossible for us to write, save, and preview our posts.
If WordPress wants to reduce the burden on their servers, there must be ways to do it that don’t require driving away their most experienced bloggers. For example, why not — after notice to users — delete all saved drafts a few days after publication date? That would unburden some servers and preserve the “classic” editor too. I donno. Maybe they already delete old drafts. I’m just guessing here, trying to figure out some rational reason for what’s going on.
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The “new” Gallery shortcode has been around since November 2012! It is a huge improvement to the previous iterations. Here’s why:
The simple [gallery] shortcode should continue to work as long as the images were uploaded to the post they appear in, which you say they were. I haven’t encountered any problems with the old code yet.
Whilst agreeing that you can do more with the new gallery, there are some things that you cannot. For example with the old gallery I could allow Editors and Authors to upload photos to a post (e.g. photo competition) without having to edit the post. I provided a simple “Upload” button. I cant do this with the new gallery. I have to get people to edit the post and subsequently add to the gallery.
I could also go on about upward compatibility, but this seems an alien concept to many.
Anyway, my real point is that old posts (with the gallery shortcode [gallery] ) cannot be edited with Beep Beep Bloop because it loads all the pictures uploaded to the blog (in my case 12,000) instead of all pictures uploaded to the post.
This means that if the classic editor is removed, then I am stuck (cannot edit posts with old galleries); and if the old style gallery is removed, then my old posts with old galleries cannot be viewed.
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It must be almost impossible to compile a complete list of “issues” with Beep Beep Boop, and although they are all getting reported here, I fear that some will get over-looked (or put into the “too hard basket”). Categorising the “kinks” might be a start:
1. Things about Beep Beep Boop that we don’t like.
2. Things that Beep Beep Bloop doesn’t do particularly well.
3. Things that Beep Bleep Boop lets you do but gets irritatingly wrong.
4, Things that Bleep Beep Boop doesn’t even attempt to do (compared with the Grown-Up editor)
5. Things that Beep Bleep Bloop lets you do but gets disastrously wrong. -
So, you are saying that with the New Editor, drafts are saved in the browser itself and not on the server, right?
If that is the case, how would one revise (including publishing) drafts from different computers?
And how would one edit and preview with a different browser on the same machine? I, for one, often check a post in at least one other browser to see if it looks the same there, before publishing.
And how would multiple authors on the same blog edit and post from all their different machines and browsers?
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Everyone realizes the technology and quality behind the new editor, I think of it as Hope and Demise.
There no more time to hope at this point, the reality, from a business perspective, is move on now. I have solutions to accommodate everyone and will be happy to lead the way away from WP without infringing upon anyone’s base hits as well as creating a smooth transition.
I did not want to do this, tried to be as positive to WP for what they have done for everyone thus far, but there is no hope.
I used to put communications systems together for national companies through fiber and T’s, this was a small part of it.
KISS was a common goal back then, what’s going on here in Hope and Demise is basically wysiwyg, they have created their base, they have figured they percentage of loss due to dissatisfaction, and the ads will come. Things are what they are.
Time is running too short to continue to b-itch and moan. I could always be wrong but decisions must be made, that’s how business works and mine has to work.
If interested contact me through posting at SITE ISSUES on Burst Updates – posted Aug 13, there is no script to link you there.
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The classic works great editor was a 3rd party editor from my memory when I helped in the .ORG forum – was mature – some complaints about the editor – but it is a mature product and works great – quick loading with not much wrong
the classic works good editor is on the way out – how do I know??
Simple you don’t push out the blue death beep beep (the beep beep part is very appropriate given that is what you normally say in place of profanity) – Armature hour editor and have a string of over 800 responses (a record maybe? – do I hear a bid for 1,000?) if you don’t intent to junk the good editor
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@auxclass
The “classic” editor is the third party TinyMCE editor. In the most recent version of WordPress the visual editor displays fewer buttons than previous versions did, even with the kitchen sink (now called the toolbar toggle) enabled. Those who self-host can install the full editor (TinyMCE advanced plugin). I do believe that the Beep Beep Boop editor is an in development of a house editor for WordPress.COM users. -
gracejiyoung, it would be very useful if you could give us the estimated date the developers are considering for the retirement of the “classic” editor. Will it be this week, next week, a month from now, or what?
Those of us who can’t use Beep Beep Boop need to start considering our alternatives. It takes time to decide where to go, to get a new blog started, and to transfer our contents there. Also, we need to give our readers proper notice about what’s going to happen. They deserve to know. And, frankly, so do we.
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I always saw the same classic editor on the selfhosted installation of my uncles site. Did they replace it with the new one too or why would we have to install the TinyMCe there?
Anyway, if it´s possible to get the classic editor for ever while selfhosting, this would be surely the best option for me, once wp.com said that they totally kill the old one. I better begin to research which hosting provider I choose in this case, just to be ready when there is no other way around.
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Above and beyond that bottom line that should this will be the only editing choice in the future, I will have to find a new home (something I would very much have liked to avoid), but if this is the best your development team can produce, you seriously need to reconsider the quality of your development team.
This is a primitive, poorly planned, dysfunctional piece of software. It offers no discernible advantage over its predecessor and many disadvantages.
I spent my professional life in the development world. This is incompetent, not merely inconvenient. It should never have been released and trying to fix it is a foolish waste of time. It is so poorly designed — if designed is a word that even applies — no amount of fixing will make it right.
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