Beep Beep Boop screen is a joke. Is this a glitch?
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Thanks @ nixedsims – at least maybe there is hope. Of course, I’m on FF 31 and it isn’t working . . .
@jeremeylduvall
This makes me think it has to be something in either (1) my Firefox settings or (2) related to the use of my own (rather than a wordpress) domain. I’m guessing it isn’t the templates, since it seems to be a problem on both of mine and they are very different templates.So where is the secret place I have to go to find “accept cookies from sites” on Firefox?
I’m not fond of Chrome, but I’ll test that too eventually, just to see if I can get it to hold the classic setting.
I chose WP (and pay good money for it) because I didn’t want to be doing this sort of debugging. :-(
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So where is the secret place I have to go to find “accept cookies from sites” on Firefox?
I believe you’ll find what you need here: http://en.support.wordpress.com/third-party-cookies/#how-do-i-enable-third-party-cookies
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Actually, I feel more sad than angry.
I have had a very low posting rate this year and intended to finally get back on the turf and start turning that paper pile of collected excerpts and loose thoughts into posts. But now I am not so sure any more. The thrill is gone.
WP will go done not with a banging boycott but with a slowly leaking whimper.
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You can check under Firefox -> Preferences -> Privacy. Please make sure “Accept cookies from sites” is checked.
It is checked and I’m still defaulting to the new stupid editor every time in Firefox 31.0.
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wp keep hinting that this editor is tremendously popular outside this Forum. Which sounds a bit North Korean.
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Yes, BBB creates the following in ‘Text’ view when a 675px wide image is added ‘full size’
[caption id="attachment_9124" align="aligncenter" width="660"]<img src=”http://geotopoi.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/portmeirion-20140820-18-traeth-bach.jpg” alt=”Traeth Bach” width=”660″ height=”432″ class=”size-full wp-image-9124″ /> Traeth Bach[/caption]
and on preview this is rendered as:
<div id=”attachment_9124″ style=”width: 670px” class=”wp-caption aligncenter”><img src=”http://geotopoi.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/portmeirion-20140820-18-traeth-bach.jpg?w=700″ alt=”Traeth Bach” class=”size-full wp-image-9124″><p class=”wp-caption-text”>Traeth Bach</p></div>
So on preview the image is rendered full size but overspills the undersized Caption background.
I’m still trying to wrap my head around this. I am experiencing the width=660 tag, presumably because it scales the image to fit within the window. However, that tag is overridden during preview. I’m also not experiencing the image “overspills the undersized Caption background.”
I know it feels like we’re going in circles here, but could you layout the following?
1. What code you’re experiencing in the new editor
2. What you’re experiencing when you preview using the new editor
3. What code you experience when you use the classic editor
4. What you’re experiencing when you preview using the classic editorBut for whatever reason now, the admin bar does not show on my home page in Firefox. Not an emergency because I always work in Chrome, but it needs to be fixed eventually.
The next time this happens on Firefox, can you try entering the address of your dashboard (sitename.wordpress.com/wp-admin) directly into your address bar? Let me know if this produces a login field or just loads your Dashboard.
However, if I click on the edit button while viewing the published post (the normal way to edit something), instead of the classic edit screen instantly appearing, I get the BBB screen and new editor.
What if you click “Edit” from your admin bar as shown here?
I thought maybe this was linked to the fact that, for whatever irritating reason, I have a different “default” blog address listed than my primary domain.
I think I can help clarify that a bit! For each blog on your account, you’ll have a blog “admin” address (like explorationvacationdotnet.wordpress.com). If you then register a custom domain (like explorationvacation.net), your readers will only see explorationvacation.net. However, on the backend, when you’re editing posts and pages as well as uploading media, you’ll see explorationvacationdotnet.wordpress.com/wp-admin…. Does that help to clarify the difference?
Not a bug report (for once), I just wanted to add that for me (on FF 31 and Win 7 Pro), after opting out of beepy-boop, clicking on a post’s “edit” link does take me to the classic editor .
What if you click “Edit” from your admin bar as shown here (mentioned above)?
It is checked and I’m still defaulting to the new stupid editor every time in Firefox 31.0.
I understand you’re frustrated, but I’m going to need a bit more detail to help troubleshoot. Can you let me know the exact flows you’re clicking that are still putting you on the new editor? Also, have you tried another browser? That’s obviously not a long-term solution, but I’d like to see if it helps.
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Popup: How can we help you?
My answer and the ensuing dialogue …
→By telling me where all the praise for Beep beep poop exists. You keep telling us that the new editor is tremendously popular outside the WP forums. Where? Can I have some links? Thanks.
Jordan: Hi there! There’s always differing opinions about new features, but there are both people who are happy and unhappy with it. We’re working hard at the moment to improve it and give all of our users the best experience possible. If you have any suggestions or bugs you’d like to report, I’d be happy to pass your feedback along to the development team.
→You did not answer my question.
→Where are the links?
Jordan: We don’t have all of the feedback for the new editor gathered in one place for you to view at the moment.
→Yes you do — and it’s all negative. I think you have answered the question, and thanks. I will be more than happy if you can prove me wrong. -
The next time this happens on Firefox, can you try entering the address of your dashboard (sitename.wordpress.com/wp-admin) directly into your address bar? Let me know if this produces a login field or just loads your Dashboard.
Entering piedtype.wordpress.com/wp-admin loads my Dashboard.
What if you click “Edit” from your admin bar as shown here?
“Edit” as shown in the illustration does not appear in any dropdown menu from the admin bar anywhere on my blog in either Firefox or Chrome. My menus only list Dashboard, New, Comments, Customize, and Widgets. I can’t figure out where you got that screenshot.
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windwhistle, you can find that menu from an individual blog post, not your Home page (front page of your blog). I use it a lot when I have to edit a long post and don’t want to go to the top where the “edit” button is located on the theme I’m using.
The menu is under your name of your blog on the admin bar on the far left side.
Just curious, anyone actually using this “bbb, too blue” editor?
Have any of our suggestions been implemented yet, such as the too long list of categories without the parent-child(ren) or entering video urls so it’s not hyperlinked but the actual video shows up?
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@dandelionsalad Thank you! I see it now.
@jeremeylduvall Sorry to say it, too, takes me to the BBB editor. So disappointed. I’d hoped maybe at last someone had saved me from that awful, mocking BBB screen. Those bubbles are my blood boiling, you know.
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Just to clarify a question that has been asked and answered in a number of places (but can be hard to find given the breadth of this discussion):
We have no plans to permanently remove the classic editor from the dashboard, but our goal is to improve the new editor in a way that users will prefer it over the classic one.
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something is wrong with functions:
-modifying posts, I cant modify post in Mozilla Firefox, I see ‘updating’ or ‘Beep, boop,beep’
-editing in edit window, I cant scroll it efiiciency, select fragment to delete
-inserting ‘more’ i visual mode doesnt work, in text mode it worksEvery last changes in wp-admin/post-new.php i see worse, errors
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From staff-ozmodiar Aug 23, 2014, 6:32 AM
We have no plans to permanently remove the classic editor from the dashboard, but our goal is to improve the new editor in a way that users will prefer it over the classic one.
Bookmarked!
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staff-ozmodiar
Thank you – you have put a lot of minds at rest.I for one would be willing to help with constructive beta testing of the new editor. However, to do this efficiently, I would much prefer to be able to choose the editor as an option in settings.
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So I did some editing this evening using the new editor:
It’s been mentioned before, but the modules in the right sidebar of the BBB editor need to be moveable so users can arrange them in the way that is best for them. I’d move Sharing to the bottom because I haven’t touched it since the day I first set it. I never use Location and would get rid of it if I could; at the very least I’d move it to the bottom. Ditto the Excerpt module; I never use it. These modules take up valuable vertical space on my 15” laptop screen.
Visibility should be with the publish settings in the “Set To” module. Likewise the “Sticky” setting.
If we choose to leave a module open because we use it often or to remind us to check a setting, then by default it should remain open from one post to the next. Those we choose to close should stayed closed. Don’t make us reinvent the wheel every time we want to write or edit something. (I quit using Zemanta because I couldn’t move the module to the bottom and because it wouldn’t stay closed.)
And I must mention again the alphabetical list of categories that drops down to about four times the length of anything else on my page since I have some 200 categories (hierarchical to form an index). Even if it must be alphabetical, at least put it in a box with a scroll bar as in the classic editor. That way I won’t have to scroll down two feet below my post to tick a category, and then scroll all the way back up.
All that vertical scrolling, and the fact that the last things I do are always the settings on the right side, mean my most used settings should be on the right near the top. That’s another reason why Delete, Preview, Save, and Update or Post need to be on the upper right, as before.
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rootjosh, Staff, wrote on
Aug 23, 2014, 6:32 AMJust to clarify a question that has been asked and answered in a number of places (but can be hard to find given the breadth of this discussion):
We have no plans to permanently remove the classic editor from the dashboard, but our goal is to improve the new editor in a way that users will prefer it over the classic one.
Thanks for that very important statement! Actually it saved my three WP.com blogs (because I was already starting to look around where to I could move them).
Will the classic editor be improved and supported in the future as well? Because it’s good—but still not perfect… I’ve already made some suggestions earlier here in this very thread:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/beep-beep-boop-screen-is-a-joke-is-this-a-glitch/page/11?replies=935#post-1995553In this posting was not mentioned one of the biggest fails: The missing (since a few months) vertical scrollbar in the classic editor window. Yes, I know where I can activate it on a one-time basis but I’d prefer to have that change permanently.
Thanks once more for leaving (and maybe even improving) the classic editor for ever!!! :-)
brickiesknasher5, Member, wrote on
Aug 23, 2014, 8:57 AMI for one would be willing to help with constructive beta testing of the new editor. However, to do this efficiently, I would much prefer to be able to choose the editor as an option in settings.
+1 on this.
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staff-ozmodiar
I do hope you fully take on board the very valuable feedback provided by windwhistle above. You guys could learn a lot about product design for usability from this.
windwhistle
Member
Aug 23, 2014, 8:24 AMSo I did some editing this evening using the new editor:
It’s been mentioned before, but the modules in the right sidebar of the BBB editor need to be moveable so users can arrange them in the way that is best for them. I’d move Sharing to the bottom because I haven’t touched it since the day I first set it. I never use Location and would get rid of it if I could; at the very least I’d move it to the bottom. Ditto the Excerpt module; I never use it. These modules take up valuable vertical space on my 15” laptop screen.
Visibility should be with the publish settings in the “Set To” module. Likewise the “Sticky” setting.
If we choose to leave a module open because we use it often or to remind us to check a setting, then by default it should remain open from one post to the next. Those we choose to close should stayed closed. Don’t make us reinvent the wheel every time we want to write or edit something. (I quit using Zemanta because I couldn’t move the module to the bottom and because it wouldn’t stay closed.)
And I must mention again the alphabetical list of categories that drops down to about four times the length of anything else on my page since I have some 200 categories (hierarchical to form an index). Even if it must be alphabetical, at least put it in a box with a scroll bar as in the classic editor. That way I won’t have to scroll down two feet below my post to tick a category, and then scroll all the way back up.
All that vertical scrolling, and the fact that the last things I do are always the settings on the right side, mean my most used settings should be on the right near the top. That’s another reason why Delete, Preview, Save, and Update or Post need to be on the upper right, as before.
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I’m still trying to wrap my head around this. I am experiencing the width=660 tag, presumably because it scales the image to fit within the window. However, that tag is overridden during preview. I’m also not experiencing the image “overspills the undersized Caption background.”
I know it feels like we’re going in circles here, but could you layout the following?
1. What code you’re experiencing in the new editor
2. What you’re experiencing when you preview using the new editor
3. What code you experience when you use the classic editor
4. What you’re experiencing when you preview using the classic editorOK, points 1 and 2 are covered by the code fragments posted in my previous message.
Just to reiterate, doing the exact same thing in the classic editor works fine with no problems at all.
3. Here is the code produced in the ‘Text’ view of the classic editor
[caption id="attachment_9124" align="alignnone" width="675"]<a href="http://geotopoi.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=9124" rel="attachment wp-att-9124"><img src="http://geotopoi.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/portmeirion-20140820-18-traeth-bach.jpg" alt="Traeth Bach" width="675" height="442" class="size-full wp-image-9124" /></a> Traeth Bach[/caption]As you can see, it correctly sets the width for both the [caption] and the <img> elements.
4. Here is the HTML it renders in preview
<div id="attachment_9124" style="width: 685px" class="wp-caption alignnone"><a href="http://geotopoi.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=9124" rel="attachment wp-att-9124"><img src="http://geotopoi.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/portmeirion-20140820-18-traeth-bach.jpg?w=700" alt="Traeth Bach" class="size-full wp-image-9124"></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Traeth Bach</p></div>And again, as you can see it has correctly set the width of the [caption] to give a 5px horizontal border around the full size image.
This all fits in perfectly within the available space in the blog post.
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rootjosh says:
We have no plans to permanently remove the classic editor from the dashboard, but our goal is to improve the new editor in a way that users will prefer it over the classic one.
Thank you. That’s what we all wanted to hear. I must point out — not to criticize you, but those for whom you work — that this is 23 August, and this thread started on 12 August, eleven days ago, and it now has an amazing 940 comments. We could have all been spared a great deal of anxiety had your announcement been made in the beginning.
As it is, I’m halfway to getting a new blog set up with Org software. It even has the same theme I’m using here. But it’s still private. I haven’t yet migrated my archives over there, or copied the contents of my text widgets, etc. I was going to do all that this weekend. I’m greatly relieved that I don’t have to continue with those tasks. Blogging here at Com has always been easier than being my own webmaster. However, now that I’ve got the new blog started, I’ll keep it as a fallback in case y’all ever do anything like this again.
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