Block Editing
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Thanks for your reply. Sorry I’ve only just responded but I didn’t receive notification that anyone had replied and it’s just taken me ages to find this thread. I saved it somewhere but can’t remember where. In answer to your question regarding image editing and the theme I’m using, I’m pretty sure it’s Button 2. Thanks.
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Thanks.
I’ve done a bit of testing with this, and it should still work.
When you insert an image block and then switch it to HTML, there are two “class”es – one for the figure tag and one for the img tag. You need to add the fancy class to the img tag:
That does cause a warning to appear that the block has invalid content, but if you switch back to HTML mode and then back again to preview mode that goes away. I’ve reported that to our developers in any case, as that will need to be fixed.
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An update on this – it’s not a bug with the theme, but rather the image block just doesn’t like one messing with its HTML. This is a bug in the WordPress software itself, so I’ve reported it to the team over at WordPress.org. Once they fix it on their end, it will stop giving the error on ours as well.
But you can just ignore that error – it doesn’t actually prevent the class you’ve added from saving or from working. It’s just the editor itself throwing a minor tantrum :)
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Thanks @kokkieh. By coincidence I’ve just been reading your discussion on Git hub, stumbled across purely incidentally when I googled my blog because I can never remember its name properly. Luckily there was a link back to here because I can never find this thread either. I shall give it a go as per your suggestion and see what happens. Thank you so much for looking into it.
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Ugh I just replied to this but seems to have disappeared when I pressed send. Maybe it might turn up, if not thanks for looking into this I will give it a try.
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@kokkieh. I tried what you said and it did work. What I have noticed is that once I’ve done that I can no longer do anything with that photo. When I click on that block containing the photo it says in the side bar under block there is no block selected even though I have clicked on it. It just says custom HTML but there is no way of even accessing the HTML code. Cannot even delete it, it seems to become invisible to the editor.
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Further to the above the ‘fancy’ element of an image now appears to have been integrated into the blocks editor and can choose between plain or fancy when creating an image block. This is good apart from when looking at preview of a fancy styled image it retains the shaded box beneath where a photo caption would go if I wanted one. This blank caption space doesn’t show on a plain image when previewing. Would be perfect if that could be remedied.
Apart from that I tried the blocks editor again after losing a full post I’d written using the original classic editor which is very frustrating as you can imagine. So have resigned myself to trying to consistently use the new editor where possible. People need to use extreme caution when swapping between the two editors as it has lost my posts 3 times now.
However I’ve noticed that the new blocks editor seems to have had a great deal added to it in the last couple of weeks and now seems capable of achieving quite a lot compared to how it was when I first tried it.
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People need to use extreme caution when swapping between the two editors as it has lost my posts 3 times now.
Eek. That definitely should not be happening. If you can send more details we’ll check in on that and at least report it.
However I’ve noticed that the new blocks editor seems to have had a great deal added to it in the last couple of weeks and now seems capable of achieving quite a lot compared to how it was when I first tried it.
You can anticipate more to come, too. This was a major, difficult change, but it’s providing a lot of developer freedom moving forward. I think once the dust has settled, people will be very glad for the changes. Just takes time.
Are you able to re-edit your HTML block yet?
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Hi @supernovia it’s difficult to say how losing a post happens. If say Ive been trying out the new editor then I decide on a new post but want to go back to the classic editor then I opened a brand new post went to the settings to change back to classic editor. In the title it fills in its own title, so I change it to a title I want, write a post then after a good few paragraphs and having definitely saved to draft I click on preview – message ‘sorry can’t find that post’ then when I went back to the apparently saved post in the editor its all gone! Half an hours worth of writing and thinking gone! Three times that has happened to me. The only way round this seems to be if I’ve been using the new editor and want to write a post with the classic editor. You have to start a new post write a sentence, save the post, preview, lose the post then start another new post and then it seems to have properly reverted back to the classic editor. Its as if its totally confused and stuck between the two editors. I have a very long post that took hours to do which I want to publish after Christmas. I did it with the classic editor, its currently in my saved posts. I’m frightened of opening it now because if I lose that I will be gutted. Its not written anywhere else, that draft is my ONLY copy.
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“It’s most helpful if you’ll let us know what features are missing / awkward, how you were using them before and what’s getting in the way now. The more specific the better. Thank you!”
Everything used for writing is missing…
For the past 11 years I’ve been a happy user of Word Press, but since the release of Gutenberg on WP.com I’ve lost some of my sleep. I would like to spend the rest of my life in WP, but now I have doubts as to whether this will be possible because, with Gutemberg, I have no pleasure writing. Ah … the classic block… but we know that it is only will be maintained until 2022.
Why did not you make a “writer mode” in the paragraph block, with everything the traditional editor has? What is the big problem with that? Why can not I simply write the way I like, with justified paragraphs, with colors to highlight ideas, etc? I do not care what the designers think: my blog, my style!
This boy, months in advance, said everything I feel now:
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wordpress-gutenberg.html
I’m very frustrated.
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It was very strange to see Matt, in the State of the Word, showing a video with lay people trying to use the classic editor and getting nothing, since something much more serious occurs when people like me try to use the Gutenberg.
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“If classic editor is not retained permanently for those wishing to use it I will be closing my WordPress blog and taking my monies elsewhere. I wondered how others feel about the changes or if it is just me who finds them a retrograde and unwieldy step.”
Me too.
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One last comment:
So can the WP team give writers a single good reason why splitting up paragraphs into separate blocks simplifies and enhances the writing experience?
That different sections or styles use separate blocks has a internal logic, but splitting body copy up into separate blocks is a code-first decision, not a user centric decision, and one that complicates the writing experience, forces people to reject and abandon thousands of years of writing culture.
You are forcing humans to write in a new, non-intuitive un-human, inhuman way. That is not simplifying things.
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I clicked on the new block editor by mistake but now I can’t find my way back. How do I revert to the classic editor?
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@paolsoren if you go back to the classic editor from the new blocks one be careful. I’ve lost three posts as a result of doing that. You go on the three dots in the very top far right of the editor, that leads you to a drop down menu and “switch to classic editor” is right at the bottom of the editor. However, having done that, I would suggest that you write a very short post, maybe a paragraph, then go to view post (ie a preview of the draft) you may get a message saying it cannot find this post. Go back to the editor and you may then find the post you just wrote has vanished. Then write your post as normal it should then be OK. Don’t flick back and forwards between classic and the new blocks editor because you WILL lose posts. Absolute nightmare this is. We’re just being used like Guinea pigs here, testing everything out at the expense of our own blogs. I’ve been on my laptop all night and have managed to achieve very little. This should never have been foisted off on us until it had been properly developed, its so unfair.
There seems to be far more help on all this on wordpress.org but I’m not registered on there, so that’s not much help to us on wordpress.com. You are so going to lose so many bloggers at this rate wordpress, people are getting sooooo frustrated.
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Ok, when you go back to classic editor from using the new block editor. You have to start a new post to do this. When it returns to classic editor the heading with the little link at the side of it says “Auto Draft” so I then commence writing a paragraph. I then go to preview after saving to draft to see what it looks like. when I get on the preview page in a new tab I get a message “Oops that page can’t be found” “It looks like nothing was found at this location. Maybe try a search?”
So you think huh and you go back to the editor, you save it again, you preview it again and get the same message. So, and you may well have done quite a lot of work on this post, you think I’ll save it, close the page and open the draft copy and try previewing it again. And you look at your draft posts and there’s nothing there because everything you thought you’d saved, everything you have just written has gone – never to be retrieved ever again.So do be very, very, careful. The only way you can get back to the classic editor from the blocks editor is to start a new post, when you start a post in blocks editor and then go back to the classic editor – that post is basically irretrievably lost. you need to write a few words, close the classic editor then start a new post and only then will the classic editor work as it should.
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If say Ive been trying out the new editor then I decide on a new post but want to go back to the classic editor then I opened a brand new post went to the settings to change back to classic editor. In the title it fills in its own title, so I change it to a title I want, write a post then after a good few paragraphs and having definitely saved to draft I click on preview – message ‘sorry can’t find that post’ then when I went back to the apparently saved post in the editor its all gone!
Thanks for those steps. I can replicate this, so I’ve reported it to our team to fix.
For now, as you’ve discovered if you add some content in the block editor prior to switching back this won’t happen. Else close the editor after switching back, and then start a new post, and it shouldn’t happen either.
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Further to the above the ‘fancy’ element of an image now appears to have been integrated into the blocks editor and can choose between plain or fancy when creating an image block. This is good
That was December 17th, I come to use that facility tonight and its gone again, now removed completely from the blocks editor. I give up! This is totally unreliable. I’m not using the blocks editor any more now until such a time that you take away the classic editor completely. I can’t be doing with this constant change, you don’t know where you are from one week to the next. So I say again, develop it first – then offer it to the user. I wash my hands of it, had enough!
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This thread is becoming a bit long and making it hard to keep track of specific issues, so I’m closing it to further replies. We’ll still update here should any specific issues reported here get fixed.
If you’ve found another bug with the block editor not yet reported in this thread, or need help using a specific feature, please create a new thread at https://en.forums.wordpress.com/?new=1
and tag it withblock editorandmodlook, and we’ll continue helping there.
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