Can Word Press Handle This Type of Page?
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Is it possible to implement this type of page on WordPress.com?
http://www.bigtornadocountry.blogspot.com/
As you can see, this page has numerous larger graphics that are simply “on the page”. That is, they are not in posts or pages. These graphics come from various third party sources.
Another key feature of this page is the extensive custom link lists. Can you do the kind of free and custom linking to valuable and often custom designed resources that you see on the right sidebar on this page?
I don’t necessarily have to be able to implement it exactly as I would on Blogger. For example, I can establish pages if required to do so (whereas with Blogger you can simply put as many features as you want right on the main URL).
Thanks for responses which I will very carefully consider and respond to.
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Let me be more specific. The graphics seen on this site are what Blogger calls “third party HTML or Java Script”. So I think what I am really asking is this: Can you like you can on Blogger freely and easily install “third party HTML or Java Script”?
I have seen (in the last hour) on the WordPress tour that with WordPress.com you can not do “plug-ins”. This is one of those terms that only WordPress experts precisely understand. I (as anything but an expert) might guess that the graphics shown on the Blogger site above are “plug-ins” to WordPress. Again, what they are to me is “third party HTML or Java script”.
I hope this additional detail helps. So the question again is: Can you implement the above site on WordPress.com?
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No.
Javascript is entirely stripped out, for security reasons. As for HTML, it depends what you want, specifically. I don’t see anything on that page that’s particularly fancy and there’s no reason you couldn’t put pretty much everything but Javascript here. Hotlinking images that are hosted elsewhere is routine at WP.com, provided you have the permission of the person you’re hotlinking to.
If you don’t know what plugins do, you don’t need to worry about them.
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Yes your right now that I look again at the code for these graphics in detail. All of the graphics are images (a gif is classified as an image.).
But just so I understand, the code for statcounter IS Javascript, is it not? So for example you can never ever have a statcounter or any other type of Javascript anywhere on a WordPress installation?
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The self Hosted Version of WordPress From http://wordpress.org can handle that type of page but the down side is you would need to to find a hosting company to host your site…
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Question 2 (I’ll get another question in now even though the one just above is not answered yet in order to move this process along as quickly as possible; please answer either one or both). Here is an example of “state of the art” HTML. This code embeds a Flickr slide show of your choice. I have chosen “cats” as my search term for this slide show:
<OBJECT width=400 height=300><PARAM NAME=”flashvars” VALUE=”offsite=true&lang=en-us&page_show_url=%2Fsearch%2Fshow%2F%3Fq%3Dcats&page_show_back_url=%2Fsearch%2F%3Fq%3Dcats&method=flickr.photos.search&api_params_str=&api_text=cats&api_tag_mode=bool&api_media=all&api_sort=relevance&jump_to=&start_index=0″><PARAM NAME=”movie” VALUE=”http://www.flickr.com/apps/slideshow/show.swf?v=71649″><PARAM NAME=”allowFullScreen” VALUE=”true”>
<embed type=”application/x-shockwave-flash” src=”http://www.flickr.com/apps/slideshow/show.swf?v=71649″ allowFullScreen=”true” flashvars=”offsite=true&lang=en-us&page_show_url=%2Fsearch%2Fshow%2F%3Fq%3Dcats&page_show_back_url=%2Fsearch%2F%3Fq%3Dcats&method=flickr.photos.search&api_params_str=&api_text=cats&api_tag_mode=bool&api_media=all&api_sort=relevance&jump_to=&start_index=0″ width=”400″ height=”300″></embed></OBJECT>
This is HTML according to Flickr and it sure looks like it is to me.
My additional question is: can you install this code on a WordPress blog? In other words, can you have a Flickr slide show and other relatively recently available embeddable HTML treats on a WordPress?
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slikbonez: What exactly on that page can WordPress not handle? Raincoaster says images can be implemented and that is actually most of what is there. Then there is the free and open custom linking to valuable resources also. Can’t WordPress handle these two at least?
Then beyond these two types of things there is JavaScript which I understand is a definite no and there is general HTML from third parties that I am trying to get clarification on. So in total I am asking about restrictions and limitations on the following:
–Images including gifs.
–Free and customized linking to resources
–JavaScript from “third parties”
–HTML from “third parties”At this time it seems the third one is a definite no, but I am still looking for clarification on the other three.
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You can never have Javascript on WordPress.com. You can on WordPress.org. But there are many stat counters including the one you mention that work here, as they also supply non-Javascript codes.
That code you posted is Flash, which is also stripped out at WordPress.com.
That is NOT “state of the art HTML”.
But Flickr videos can indeed be used on WordPress.com, just NOT using that code. There’s a workaround for nearly anything here.
If you want to know if a code is supported, look in Support:
http://en.support.wordpress.com/If you search there for Flickr, you find this thread, which explains how to use Flickr videos
http://en.support.wordpress.com/videos/flickr-video/ -
To clarify because this is important, if the Flickr slideshow code is available “in Flash” only, which I would think is the only way it is available, then there is no possible way to install it on a WordPress blog site?
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To clarify, the code I posted above is for a Flickr slide show, not for a single Flickr video. Can that code be implemented on a WordPress?
As you can tell, I am trying to “get to the bottom of the differences between Blogger and WordPress so I can decide whether to move from Blogger to WordPress. I am very frustrated not with Blogger but with overall Google management. Blogger itself is incredibly versatile but Google overall is not living up to its traditions or its overall responsibilities anymore.
In summary again I am looking for the following clarifications regarding WordPress: See if my preliminary understandings (which truth be told are more like guesses at the moment) are correct or wrong, please.
-Embedding pictures including gifs is a definite yes (assuming permission).
-Text boxes (a Blogger term) with any number of custom links can be deployed
JavaScript can NEVER be used ever.
-Code with Flash in it can NEVER be used ever?? But what about single videos?
-Third party HTML Code can usually be used but not always.I’m still more or less guessing here; please clarify if you can and would.
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Thank you panaghiotisadam. So is the following statement right or wrong?
With regard to third party flash and HTML applications, some can be implemented on WordPress and some can not. ONLY the applications pre-approved by WordPress can be implemented, not any application out there. Virtually or literally no JavaScript applications are approved and so JavaScript can never (or almost never) be implemented on WordPress.com.
Is this basically correct?
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No. It is possible to use flash! You just cannot use it directly. Using the gigya coding, you can use flash: Panos shows you lots of examples of how to adapt flash to the gigya coding.
You can not use JavaScript unless staff develops a shortcode to adapt it for wp.com.
We have no access to the underlying HTML nor to PHP.
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To clarify, can the Flickr sideshow code above (which implements a Flash application on for example Blogger) be converted to gigya coding? In other words, can the Flickr sideshow code above be altered so that it can be implemented on WordPress.com?
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Yes. As time goes on we get more workarounds (like Vodpod and the gigya shortcode) but in general, yes, speaking ONLY of WordPress.COM. WordPress.ORG is a whole other deal.
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So I would have to know how to change the code supplied by Flicker (by learning how to do it at gigya or somewhere else) in order to put a Flickr slideshow on WordPress?
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I was just poking around a little and it seems that the idea that free WordPress is competitive with free Blogger is just a pipe dream. It seems to me at the moment that you can NOT simply make links in a text box (which is child’s play at Blogger). You can only put text in a text box and nothing else. It seems the only way you can install a link is with the “link widget”.
But I can’t figure out the link widget and so I can’t even figure out yet how you make a link at all! All there is in the “Links Widget” is a tiny box to the right of where it says “Links to Show”. How do you actually simply install a link? At Blogger there are at least two ways to do it and both are fairly obvious and easy. Can you easily install a link in a post at WordPress? I assume that has to be a yes.
Am I in general “barking up the wrong tree”? I think I am because the responses here are mostly negative to the idea of implementing a site such as http://www.bigtornadocountry.blogspot.com on WordPress (at least without a lot of “extra work”).
Plus right now I can’t seem to be able to get even simple things done on my WordPress blog (things that I would assume can not possibly be forbidden). It seems in summary that Blogger is much more powerful and easy to use to implement a page that uses a good number of third-party applications.
TypePad claims you can do anything at the rate of $15 a month and they have a free trial; I may try that if it is really Google or $15 a month for pages such as this.
Here is the question I want answered the most: If I want to be able to freely link to resources and to be able to freely install application code of various types, such as the code for the Flickr slide show above WITHOUT having to spend many hours altering code, is WordPress.com simply out of the question?
(No offense, and I know that for blogs dominated by text articles WordPress is outstanding.)
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I don’t know what you’re reading but it’s completely inaccurate. You can do TONS of things with a text widget.
If I want to be able to freely link to resources and to be able to freely install application code of various types, such as the code for the Flickr slide show above WITHOUT having to spend many hours altering code, is WordPress.com simply out of the question?
You can link to anything you want in WP.com, as long as it’s not a paid link or affililate link.
If you want to use third party code, you’ll either have to spend five minutes looking in SUPPORT like I said above, of you’ll have to give up on WP.com. If you can’t get used to looking in the Support documents for the proper shortcode, you will never be happy here.
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I’m not quite ready to throw in the towel. Before I do I want to focus on just one thing: the Flickr slideshow whose code is above. If I can see in support how to install it then i will continue and if not I’ll move on (and come back in a few years and check WordPress again).
So I am right now on:
http://en.support.wordpress.com/Now if I want to install the Flickr slideshow of cats on my WordPress, which category of support do I select? In fairness, there are more than 100 things you can click on that page and there are several dozen that might apply to the Flickr slideshow. Does anyone know whihch particular support page explains how you would install the Flickr slide show?
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This is a peer to peer forum, and most of us are volunteers who answer questions as well as our cumulative experience allows. We aim to be civil, polite, and even friendly. Even if you have a prejudice toward using Blogger or some other platform, this forum works best if people are courteous and respectful.
Here is a post about using Flickr on wp.com:
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