Can’t correct bullet numbering

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    caveate · Member ·

    I am trying to create some space between my numbered bullets. When I do that, the bullet count always starts back at #1. Also I have some sections within bullets that I don’t want to have a number/bullet next to — can’t do that either without throwing off the indentation and following numbers. Any help appreciated!

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    raincoaster · Member ·

    How, exactly, are you attempting to make those changes? What code are you using? Paste it here between backticks so it displays and we can analyze it.

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    caveate · Member ·

    I tired 2 ways… imported from MS Word and editing plain text in the Visual editor. Here is some of the HTML (I’m not a coder)…

    Different species of fish will be hardier against variable water conditions (Millie was a “fancy” goldfish so she was more delicate), but the general guidelines for freshwater fish are to accommodate for the following:

    1. Sufficient water-to-fish ratio (3-4 gallons for every 1-inch of fish). Limiting the size of a tank will stunt a fish’s growth. A low water-to-bio mass ratio will also lead to higher levels of waste (and toxins) in the water (goldfish produce relatively higher levels of waste).
    1. Water temperature (CONSTANT temp between 75-78° F). Depending on species, tropical freshwater fish are comfortable in 75-78° F water. Goldfish can be hardier at the lower-end of the range than most. That said, you should favor a level at the higher end of this range, since higher temperatures help accelerate the critical Nitrogen Cycle mentioned above.

    <p style=”padding-left: 60px;”>Just as important as the actual temperature reading is maintaining a constant level at the given temperature – consistency helps lead to stress-free, healthy fish. Use a regulated heater, especially if you live an area where day/night temperatures and seasons can make significant differences. Temperatures above the 75-78° F range propagate algae and lower temperature stress fish out and make them lethargic.</p>

    1. Water flow and filtration. Keep the water moving, clean, and oxygenated with a constantly running filtration device.
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      hallluke · Member ·

      You need to post code between backticks. It’s the one to the left of Z key, sharing with the ~tilde~ on my keyboard. Then we can see the HTML you tried to use.

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      caveate · Member ·

      here’s another try at posting between backticks

      Different species of fish will be hardier against variable water conditions (Millie was a “fancy” goldfish so she was more delicate), but the general guidelines for freshwater fish are to accommodate for the following:
<ol>
	<li><strong>Sufficient w</strong><strong>ater-to-fish ratio </strong>(3-4 gallons for every 1-inch of fish)<strong>.</strong> Limiting the size of a tank will stunt a fish’s growth. A low water-to-bio mass ratio will also lead to higher levels of waste (and toxins) in the water (goldfish produce relatively higher levels of waste).</li>
</ol>
<ol>
	<li><strong>Water temperature </strong>(CONSTANT temp between 75-78° F)<strong>.</strong> Depending on species, tropical freshwater fish are comfortable in 75-78° F water. Goldfish can be hardier at the lower-end of the range than most. That said, you should favor  a level at the higher end of this range, since higher temperatures help accelerate the critical Nitrogen Cycle mentioned above.</li>
</ol>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">Just as important as the actual temperature reading is maintaining a constant level at the given temperature – consistency helps lead to stress-free, healthy fish. Use a regulated heater, especially if you live an area where day/night temperatures and seasons can make significant differences. Temperatures above the 75-78° F range propagate algae and lower temperature stress fish out and make them lethargic.</p>

<ol>
	<li><strong>Water flow and filtration.</strong> Keep the water moving, clean, and oxygenated with a constantly running filtration device.</li>
</ol>
<ol>
	<li><strong>Water Chemistry</strong>. This is where most people get screwed up. I think of the Nitrogen Cycle as an ongoing battle against the Dark Side with the following cast</li>
</ol>
<blockquote>
<ul>
	<li>Waste: Bad stuff, but you can’t avoid if you want anything more than plastic fish in the tank.</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
<ul>
	<li>Ammonium (The “Light Side”): This is what waste preferably breaks-down into. If all waste can break-down into Ammonium, then you are living in carefree Endor.</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
<ul>
	<li>Ammonia (think the evil Emperor and the “Dark Side”): This is the bad, bad, bad stuff that waste can also break-down into. The Emperor will inevitably appear, but <span style="text-decoration: underline;">you want ZERO Ammonia in the water</span>.</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<blockquote>
<ul>
	<li>Bacteria Hero #1 (nitrosomonas.. .think Luke Skywalker): Luke breaks-down the Emperor into Nitrites (Darth Vader).</li>
</ul>
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      1tess · Moderator Emeritus ·

      I must ask, where are you copying this from?
      That code has tons of useless and misleading (even harmful or confusing) code.
      Was the original document from a Word file or somewhere online?
      And are you continuing to try to edit the code in Word or someother software that formats your document?

      Word does not speak any logical online language. If you write in Word, then you should paste the text as plain text. Safest way is to paste it into the html editor. At very least use the “paste from Word” button in the Visual editor.

      Then use the buttons in the visual editor to format your text.

      If you want to format as you go along, then get LiveWriter for Windows so you won’t mess up your blog. I’m using Macs, but many volunteers in these forums say that (free) Live Writer is the way to go.

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      1tess · Moderator Emeritus ·

      I think this is code that will produce an ordered list more the way you want it.

      Different species of fish will be hardier against variable water conditions (Millie was a “fancy” goldfish so she was more delicate), but the general guidelines for freshwater fish are to accommodate for the following:
<ol>
	<li><strong>Sufficient w</strong><strong>ater-to-fish ratio </strong>(3-4 gallons for every 1-inch of fish)<strong>.</strong> Limiting the size of a tank will stunt a fish’s growth. A low water-to-bio mass ratio will also lead to higher levels of waste (and toxins) in the water (goldfish produce relatively higher levels of waste).</li>
	<li><strong>Water temperature </strong>(CONSTANT temp between 75-78° F)<strong>.</strong> Depending on species, tropical freshwater fish are comfortable in 75-78° F water. Goldfish can be hardier at the lower-end of the range than most. That said, you should favor  a level at the higher end of this range, since higher temperatures help accelerate the critical Nitrogen Cycle mentioned above.
Just as important as the actual temperature reading is maintaining a constant level at the given temperature – consistency helps lead to stress-free, healthy fish. Use a regulated heater, especially if you live an area where day/night temperatures and seasons can make significant differences. Temperatures above the 75-78° F range propagate algae and lower temperature stress fish out and make them lethargic.</li>
<li><strong>Water flow and filtration.</strong> Keep the water moving, clean, and oxygenated with a constantly running filtration device.</li>
	<li><strong>Water Chemistry</strong>. This is where most people get screwed up. I think of the Nitrogen Cycle as an ongoing battle against the Dark Side with the following cast</li>
<li>Waste: Bad stuff, but you can’t avoid if you want anything more than plastic fish in the tank.</li>
	<li>Ammonium (The “Light Side”): This is what waste preferably breaks-down into. If all waste can break-down into Ammonium, then you are living in carefree Endor.</li>
<li>Ammonia (think the evil Emperor and the “Dark Side”): This is the bad, bad, bad stuff that waste can also break-down into. The Emperor will inevitably appear, but <span style="text-decoration:underline;">you want ZERO Ammonia in the water</span>.</li>
<li>Bacteria Hero #1 (nitrosomonas.. .think Luke Skywalker): Luke breaks-down the Emperor into Nitrites (Darth Vader).</li>
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      caveate · Member ·

      I initially copied & pasted from Word and used the “past from Word” button. I suspected that might be issue, so copied as plain text. I am using a Mac as well. The numeric ordering is now in sequence, but how do I create spaces between the numbered sections? Also, I would like to insert some bulleted sections in between the numeric sections without throwing off the sequence….

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      1tess · Moderator Emeritus ·

      Is this what you want: (paste the code into your html editor, update, preview, to view what it does. 

      <ol>
	<li style="padding-bottom:15px;">Sufficient water-to-fish ratio (3-4 gallons for every 1-inch of fish). Limiting the size of a tank will stunt a fish’s growth. A low water-to-bio mass ratio will also lead to higher levels of waste (and toxins) in the water (goldfish produce relatively higher levels of waste).</li>
	Water temperature (CONSTANT temp between 75-78° F). Depending on species, tropical freshwater fish are comfortable in 75-78° F water. Goldfish can be hardier at the lower-end of the range than most. That said, you should favor  a level at the higher end of this range, since higher temperatures help accelerate the critical Nitrogen Cycle mentioned above.
	<li style="padding-bottom:15px;">Just as important as the actual temperature reading is maintaining a constant level at the given temperature – consistency helps lead to stress-free, healthy fish. Use a regulated heater, especially if you live an area where day/night temperatures and seasons can make significant differences. Temperatures above the 75-78° F range propagate algae and lower temperature stress fish out and make them lethargic.</li>
	<li style="padding-bottom:15px;">Water flow and filtration. Keep the water moving, clean, and oxygenated with a constantly running filtration device.</li>
	<li style="padding-bottom:15px;">Water Chemistry. This is where most people get screwed up. I think of the Nitrogen Cycle as an ongoing battle against the Dark Side with the following cast
<ul style="padding-top:15px;">
	<li>Waste: Bad stuff, but you can’t avoid if you want anything more than plastic fish in the tank.</li>
	<li> Ammonium (The “Light Side”): This is what waste preferably breaks-down into. If all waste can break-down into Ammonium, then you are living in carefree Endor.</li>
	<li> Ammonia (think the evil Emperor and the “Dark Side”): This is the bad, bad, bad stuff that waste can also break-down into. The Emperor will inevitably appear, but you want ZERO Ammonia in the water.</li>
	<li> Bacteria Hero #1 (nitrosomonas.. .think Luke Skywalker): Luke breaks-down the Emperor into Nitrites (Darth Vader).</li>
	<li> Nitrites (Darth Vader): The follow-on form of the Emperor. You want ZERO Nitrites in your water.</li>
	<li> Bacteria Hero #2 (nitrobacter… think Han Solo who has Luke’s back covered): Han breaks-down Darth Vader into Nitrates (those pesky Storm Troopers).</li>
	<li> Nitrates (Storm Troopers): Tolerable in small amounts. Traces of Nitrates are acceptable.</li>
	<li> Live plants (the Ewoks):  Ewoks dissolve some of the remaining Storm Troopers.</li>
	<li> pH level (the Endor climate): Depending on species, fish can actually acclimate to pH levels anywhere between 5.5 (acidic) – 8.5 (basic), with 7 being neutral. That said, some levels are more “consistent” with where the species might be found in nature (for Millie we were told to target around 6.8). Like water temperature, a CONSTANT pH level can be more important than the actual pH reading itself.</li>
</ul>
</li>
	<li style="padding-bottom:15px;">Despite the adaptability of fish it’s worth noting that a slightly acidic (just <7 pH) environment can be favorable since it encourages the break-down of waste into Ammonium (the Light Side) rather than into Ammonia (the Dark Side) which tends to be result in basic (>7 pH) environments.</li>
</ol>
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      caveate · Member ·

      Essentially yes. Do I have to use this code anytime I want to format these types a bullets again or is there another way of doing it. Thanks!

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      1tess · Moderator Emeritus ·

      Yes, if you are going to keep mixing up ordered and unordered lists, you will find it necessary to learn some html.

      The visual editor doesn’t have the precision to place the cursor in the exact place it needs to be: if you try to do it that way, you will end up with a mess of opening and closing tags nested incorrectly.

      I tried to use a separate div (chunk of code) for the unordered list which you could do in the visual editor, then insert that into your main ordered list, and that might work. In this process, I discovered that at least one theme does not like to mix the two types of lists and it’s possible my test blog was using Freshy instead of Twenty-Ten.

      The code is also complicated by the fact that you wanted extra space between the numbered elements: 20-10 theme (I don’t know about others) requires adding padding code to make the space.

      I could explain how to write the code if you like. Let me know.

      Or you could just use a regular ordered list (with numbers) and fake the unordered section by typing in the bullet points yourself.

      The other thing you might try is to use an off-line editor: WindowsLiveWriter (free) or for Mac Ecto (small charge). I’ve never used either, but many volunteers have recommended them for a variety of situations.

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      caveate · Member ·

      Yes, if you could describe how you write the code, that would be great (I tried comparing the

        …

      and

    10. …

      11. tags that I get from using the Visual Editor (the “wrong” formatting) with the your “good” code and I don’t see a difference… yet the results are different!