Can't Disable Visual Editor?

  • Unknown's avatar

    This topic has been covered (albeit unresolved) before, but, there doesn’t appear to be a way to disable the visual editor on a fully hosted WP.com site. Am I wrong? No JSON-LD for me, I guess.

    If not, this demonstrates yet another reason to move my site to the self-hosted version of the platform.

    The blog I need help with is: (visible only to logged in users)

  • Hi there. There is no option to disable the visual editor, and there hasn’t been for as long as I’ve been blogging on WordPress.com. If you prefer to use the html/text editor, just switch to it. Your browser should remember your preference and automatically select it next time you edit or create a new post. https://en.support.wordpress.com/editors/

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hi. Thanks for reaching back. Yes, I’m aware you can switch to the the html/text editor to compose your posts in HTML (with restrictions).

    As I understand it, however, the text editor automatically removes structured data, such as Schema or JSON-LD.

    From what I’ve seen, there’s a way to add JSON-LD by disabling the visual editor within your personal profile settings, which forces WP to recognize it. However, you can’t disable the visual editor within the fully hosted version of the WP platform.

    Here’s an example of a blog post within a site that uses the self-hosted version of the WP platform with JSON-LD implemented on the backend: http://seattlesearchnetwork.org/2015/json-ld-as-an-alternative-to-microdata/.

  • As I said, there’s no way to disable the visual editor, you can only switch between the two.

    If you want to post source code, you have to do it using a shortcode to preserve the formatting and to prevent the software from executing it or stripping it out in the case of disallowed code.
    https://en.support.wordpress.com/code/posting-source-code/
    https://en.support.wordpress.com/code/

    If I understand correctly from the links you supplied that you want to use your site to host active code that other programmers can link to from within software/web pages, then WordPress.com is not suitable for that purpose. There is no way to add active JavaScript or Flash code to our sites, as that code can be used to introduce malware that can take down the entire platform, as all our sites are running of the same installation of the WordPress.com software, unlike self-hosted sites where each site runs its own software. Self-hosted might be a better option if that’s what you want to do, or a platform like GitHub.

  • Unknown's avatar

    @skavinger1984: Additionally, you have removed the footer credits on your blog http://inharshlight.com/
    This isn’t allowed on WordPress.com:

    May I remove the Admin Bar, credit links such as ‘Blog at WordPress.com’, theme, font, or toolbar links?

    All WordPress.com bloggers are required to maintain the Admin Bar (the dark bar that appears at the top of WordPress.com sites when logged in) as well as credit links in the footer, even our VIP bloggers. Please do not hide or alter text or links for the footer credits or the toolbar. Modifying the style of the footer text (i.e. colors and font size) is fine as long as it’s still readable. Using CSS, you can also add content like a copyright notice to the existing footer. If you would like to do that, you can ask in the CSS Customization forum and Staff or our community volunteers would be happy to help you do that.

    https://en.support.wordpress.com/custom-design/#frequently-asked-questions

  • Unknown's avatar

    kokkieh, thanks for the links and the info. I’m not yet at a level of proficiency with coding to take full advantage of shortcode, but this looks cool.

    So yeah, I know that you can’t disable the visual editor on WordPress.com, inasmuch as WordPress.org users can. I was merely pointing that out in my initial post, whereby if you’re using a self-hosted site (as in, within the WordPress.org version of the platform), there is an option to disable the visual editor through your Profile page within your Admin dashboard (e.g., Admin > Users > Your Profile).

    And yes, I was essentially talking about the difference between what WordPress.com users can do and what WordPress.org users have the freedom to do — such as the latter’s support of third-party plug-ins, like Yoast.

    I agree, a self-hosted site is likely the way to go for what I’d like to do, which I’ll look into. Thanks again.

  • You’re welcome.

    And as @galois pointed out, please make sure you restore the footer credits, so your site doesn’t get suspended.

  • Unknown's avatar

    kokkieh. I’ll look into the footer credits. I received assistance with the CSS from friends in the past, so I’m not sure when its removal actually happened.

    However, I think it’s rather horrendous that I paid such a high premium for the Funki theme ($100) when I first installed it and this is an issue — which has nothing to do with the topic of this discussion: WordPress.com’s lack of support for structured data — like Schema.org and JSON-LD.

    These are sub-languages of HTML and JavaScript that are literally supported by Google. I understand the use of any form of JS can endanger the WordPress.com ecosystem, but if Google is supporting these forms of structured data, then I think WP would benefit from developing a method (widgets, perhaps) that make its use possible, safe and secure for users that want to explore more advanced SEO practices.

  • Even VIP sites which start at $30 000 a year have to keep those credits in tact. Whether or not you think it’s justified or not, it’s in the Terms of Service to which you agreed when you registered your account. And whether or not it is related to the thread, when us volunteers spot something like this we warn users. We consider it a courtesy, as we can actually report something like this without warning you first, in which case the first warning you’ll get is your site being suspended. And that’s as much as I can say on this topic as terms of service issues are not discussed in this forum.

    As for the structured data, if you want to suggest support for such a feature is added, you can do so in the Ideas forum, here: https://en.forums.wordpress.com/forum/ideas#postform

  • Unknown's avatar

    I get that’s in the terms of service (ToS). But that’s 29, 900 more monetary reasons why WP.com users (especially VIP) shouldn’t have to use their Footer as an advertisement for WordPress and its supported themes — not to mention all the monthly and yearly payments that individual bloggers and VIP businesses pay WordPress for additional privileges on their site, some of which should come standard.

    Yeah, in short: I don’t think it’s justified.

    Luckily, I found the bit of CSS that was responsible for cloaking the credit in my footer and removed it (don’t know which of my collaborators did this, but it must have been a long time ago). So the credits are back on my site.

    I appreciate the warning in lieu of the ToS and immanent suspension. But I don’t interpret it as a “courtesy” for WP volunteers to police a site on a thread that has nothing to do with the topic at-hand.

    Honestly, I’m pretty disappointed.

  • We don’t police it. In helping you we inevitably visit your site, and if we spot something amiss we point it out, rather than report it straight away. @galois was trying to be helpful. I’m sorry that you didn’t experience it that way.

  • Unknown's avatar

    But I don’t interpret it as a “courtesy” for WP volunteers to police a site on a thread that has nothing to do with the topic at-hand.

    It is better for you that I have told you or WordPress.com delete your site?

    If you do not agree with me, hide again the footer credits! ;)

  • Unknown's avatar

    @galois — I’ve apparently had the footer credits removed for quite some time, and I’ve conversed with wordpress.com support specialists on several occasions concerning various other technical issues. They’ve never brought it up, suspended or deleted my site. Perhaps I went atypically unnoticed for 5 years since I opted into the premium theme.

    It is better for you that I have told you or WordPress.com delete your site?

    Hmm, let’s see: It would have been better if you addressed the subject of this thread.

    Here is the rhetoric of your comments thus far: “Hey skavinger, I could have reported you for not having the footer credits, but because I’m such a stand-up guy, I’m just warning you — consider yourself lucky.”

    Hey, I appreciate the warning, but I don’t find the rhetoric and subtext of your comments entirely well-meaning, so no, I’d rather keep the footer credits in place for WP users who may or may not report me.

    Also, I think the relevance of this thread is pretty much cashed. So let’s give it a rest.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Here is the rhetoric of your comments thus far: “Hey skavinger, I could have reported you for not having the footer credits, but because I’m such a stand-up guy, I’m just warning you — consider yourself lucky.”

    Hey, I appreciate the warning, but I don’t find the rhetoric and subtext of your comments entirely well-meaning, so no, I’d rather keep the footer credits in place for WP users who may or may not report me.

    It’s your interpretation and, of course, I disagree.

    Hey, I appreciate the warning…

    You’re welcome! ;)
    Cheers.

    P.S.: Perhaps a staff member can tell you if I’m right or not. Ask him.

  • Unknown's avatar

    of course you disagree. That’s not in question. Yet you feel the need to kick a dead horse.

    Pat yourself on the back.

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