Complying with EU Cookie Law
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And you’ve read the law issued by the Garante Italian? You know the story of cookies technicians, third-party and profiling? How they are managed on wordpress? What cookies are using wordpress?
Certainly the dialogue should take place between Automattic and Garante , but you can not always respond with the usual copy and paste that is not valid for the Italian.
Having a banner is so difficult?
That’s all
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Unfortunately the Garante has issued a “guideline” NOT a law.
:-(We – plain amateur bloggers – are struggling just because in Italy we know we can undergo an heavy fee and the resource can be too long in time to be solved and pricey (even if you’re in the right).
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Holy smokes guys! Write in English directly, not with Google Translate… it’s almost impossible to read what you write. :(
koolinus, well it would be costly even if one wants to comply. Who pays the legal consultants? Who pays the software developers to rebuild all the front-end logic to avoid issuing cookies until the user has accepted? This is simply crazy.
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Holy smokes guys! Write in English directly, not with Google Translate… it’s almost impossible to read what you write. :(
My Dear, why are you upset this way?
I think you’d better study a little italian to understand this discussion, as well as we poor italian guys have got to know a little english just to post here and follow you (great) guys of WP.
This is an english forum, I know, and so you’re perfectly right to pretend writing in english, but the more of these posts are in reply to italians issues.
Thanks for your patience….
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I think you’d better study a little italian to understand this discussion
Yes, if it wasn’t for the fact that I am Italian and I studied the language from elementary school since high school like everybody else. LOL
we poor italian guys have got to know a little english
“We poor Italian guys” should have paid attention in class when the teacher was teaching English. :D Why shall we be different? In this forum there are people from all over the world writing in English and we should just don’t give a dime and write in Italian? Really?
Dobbiamo sempre farci riconoscere?
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In this forum there are people from all over the world writing in English and we should just don’t give a dime and write in Italian? Really?
Dobbiamo sempre farci riconoscere?
+1.000
BTW, I’m Chilean and I live in Spain. -
I wish I had been able to study English at school.
I did not study French for “sending a walk to French teachers.” Obviously I do not remember anything of French and speak English very superficially :-(Today maybe things are better and often the boys have language teachers. In my day, most of the teachers were speaking Italian, graduates in some other matter (generally jurisprudence) and with a “course” to teach a language.
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I’ve learned English reading comic books and playing D&D and videogames :]
Now tell me about “wasting time with useless junk” :P -
I asked WP and they answered to me as they did with other people.
I’m waiting for an answer about “why did Blogspot put an automatic popup and you don’t?”.However, the first answer is:
WordPress.com We’re aware of the recent EU privacy directive and the related UK Cookie Law. As of now, the relevant authorities haven’t issued concrete guidance on the actions that are necessary to comply with the law. We’ll be watching as the situation develops and may make changes to our services in the future, if required.
For now – since sites hosted at WordPress.com do make use of cookies, you may like to flag this fact for visitors to your site. One way to do this is to add a text widget to your side bar and include a link to our privacy policy (which contains information on the cookies that we use). You might also inform your visitors that they can refuse all cookies by changing the settings of their browsers.
Our Privacy Policy can be found here:
http://automattic.com/privacy/
Instructions for adding a text widget to your site can be found here:
http://en.support.wordpress.com/widgets/text-widget/ -
Dear WordPress Staff, we do need an answer. I work with a lot of people that have a blog as a hobby or a collateral activity and everyone is puzzled up by your silence, talking about find another hosting platform. Quite a shame! I’ve been really enjoying the WordPress till now!
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Dear WordPress Staff, we do need an answer. I work with a lot of people that have a blog as a hobby or a collateral activity and everyone is puzzled up by your silence, talking about finding another hosting platform. Quite a shame! I’ve been really enjoying the WordPress till now!
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Dear WordPress Staff, we do need an answer or, better, a very simple pop up. I work with a lot of people that have a blog as a hobby or a collateral activity and everyone is puzzled up by your silence, talking about finding another hosting platform. Quite a shame! I’ve been really enjoying the WordPress till now!
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I have only one question: why WordPress.com refuses to adopt the same solution adopted by Blogspot (a simple popup on the top of the page, automatically added to every)?
I ask just an explanation… a reasonable – and in compliance with the UE law – explanation, obviuosly. -
Dobbiamo sempre farci riconoscere?
Iazza, don’t worry! Think our government has just done it well and enough! Writing useless laws which have no sense or purpose but breaking honest people’s balls and not certainly enough to stop malicious guys… as well as the whole italian privacy regulation with no other effect than to fill our offices with lots of useless paper and no enough to prevent publicity in our mailboxes or commercial offers on the phone every time of the day!
Have a good night, guy…
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I have only one question: why WordPress.com refuses to adopt the same solution adopted by Blogspot (a simple popup on the top of the page, automatically added to every)?
I ask just an explanation… a reasonable – and in compliance with the UE law – explanation, obviuosly.exactly.
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why WordPress.com refuses to adopt
They didn’t refuse to do anything. They are still evaluating what to do for matters that are not related to their jurisdiction, that’s a totally different story. Google has branches in Europe while Automattic is based in the US. Let’s not confuse things here.
the same solution adopted by Blogspot (a simple popup on the top of the page
That solution is pointless, since if you insert a cookie before the user has actually clicked on the banner you may be already violating the regulation. A simple popup is useless. One should re-engineer the whole front-end software. This takes time, testing and money. Will EU pay for it? I doubt.
Writing useless laws which have no sense or purpose but breaking honest people’s balls and not certainly enough to stop malicious guys
Agreed, however the problem is much bigger than that. We are not talking only about Italy. The entire EU is threatened by this idiotic law, in one form or another. The same holds for data retention (because you know, privacy is cool if it’s not the government to respect it):
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Data_Retention_Directive
Although this has been invalidated, many countries (including Italy) still illegally collect such data. Moreover, in the past many EU countries faced threats of fines from EU if they did not comply. This is outrageous and makes the cookie law even more ridiculous.
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ince if you insert a cookie before the user has actually clicked on the banner you may be already violating the regulation.
Just a little clarification: so as well as I am a “free” user (and as I’m not a computer programmer, but just a simple PC user) and so as well as WordPress.com doesn’t allow “free” user to insert any kind of cookies, plugins or anything else more than those which are present in the “free users interface”… well, I couldn’t insert any kind of cookie in any way I’d eventually wish.
I’m sure that I didn’t anything, in these 5 years, that could violate that law. But who assure me that WordPress didn’t/will be the same thing? And who assure me/us that I’m/we’re not responsible for what WordPress do in my/our blog?
That’s why I ask an official declaration. -
since if you insert a cookie before the user has actually clicked on the banner you may be already violating the regulation.
Just a little clarification: so as well as I am a “free” user (and as I’m not a computer programmer, but just a simple PC user) and so as well as WordPress.com doesn’t allow “free” user to insert any kind of cookies, plugins or anything else more than those which are present in the “free users interface”… well, I couldn’t insert any kind of cookie in any way I’d eventually wish.
I’m sure that I didn’t anything, in these 5 years, that could violate that law. But who assure me that WordPress didn’t/will be the same thing? And who assure me/us that I’m/we’re not responsible for what WordPress do in my/our blog?
That’s why I ask an official declaration. -
One should re-engineer the whole front-end software. This takes time, testing and money.
Time? The firs post in this forum about this matter was written in 2012!!!
“Three years” aren’t enough time to address the issure?Will EU pay for it? I doubt.
No, EU will not pay anything for it. Just as no state or organization that issues laws never pays anything because the people put themselves in compliance with these laws . Or in your country things are different?
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One should re-engineer the whole front-end software. This takes time, testing and money.
Time? The firs post in this forum about this matter was written in 2012!!!
“Three years” aren’t enough time to address the issue?Will EU pay for it? I doubt.
No, EU will not pay anything for it. Just as no state or organization that issues laws never pays anything because the people put themselves in compliance with these laws . Or in your country things are different?
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