Copyright abuse!
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one more point to ad. ever heard of first time rights or exclusive ones? in my paid work (non blog related), i often sign copyright agreements to the effect of my publishers holding exclusive rights to my material. why? because if the same piece is published in numerous places, the originality of the material gets diluted and the publisher loses the ‘edge’, so to speak, in terms of having unique content that nobody else has.
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Thank you weirdscience. It is a very accurate subject and some people have to learn something about it. They think that if it is public, it is everybody’s…
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Running around town wearing a necklace you took from someone else, saying “I got it from her!” doesn’t mean you didn’t steal it.
“In a land of infinite riches, under cliffs of pearl, you would still find the commandment ‘Thou shalt not steal'”
GK Chesterton.Excerpting and linking is acceptable. Wholesale copying and reposting is not. Try doing that with the Harry Potter books and see how fast Bloomsbury sics a sabre-toothed lawyer on you.
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raincoaster; there is something like “permission”. That person have to ask me first. I allow that or not, it is my decision.
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To put things into further perspective, zeynepankara went like that – in FOUR different posts of the blog in question:
“I am Zeynep Ankara and you stole my post. There is some legal ways about it as you know because my spaces are copyrighted.”
“You have no right to post my entry to your space. Remove my entry that you stole!”
“Do you steal always some blogs around?.. You are wrong! Delete my entry on your space that you stole!”
“Do not steal people’s blogs anymore!”
“I reported you. You must delete my entry. Did you get a permission from me about it? There is a clear sign about copright on my space. How dare you???”
“Do not steal people’s blogs anymore. You are wrong!”
“I am waiting… You have to remove my blog on your space! (An open Letter to A Father)”
I would be curious to see Mark’s and raincoaster’s opinion on this. (Personally I find it worthy of those penguin brats rather than a psychologist.)
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What shame panaghiotisadam… I am a victim here and fighting agains an abuse… What shame…
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cnuk isn’t trolling… Its a philosophical point vs legality.
I long ago envisioned the Internet as fully open source.
But the reality is splogging ,spam, and other menaces have actually hampered the freedoms of the of internet and pushed people off. its more complicated now. -
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And now I see, the “enemy” was a SPAM, huh… Welldone panaghiotisadam, as a spam, you knew well “passing and running”.
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and panaghiotisadam, its up to that blogger to be concerned about what comments he moderates.
that has nothing to do with the content of to blog posts. -
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I think we’re dealing with a language and cultural barrier here. You should see what happens when you piss off a Romanian, for instance: what you see here is nothing.
Stealing copyrighted content, particularly in spite of a posted request not to do so, is illegal and immoral. Posting a ton of comments and emotionally overreacting isn’t; it’s understandable.
If it were me and a WP.com blog had stolen entire posts from me, I would escalate this thing immediately; on a weekday, I’d contact a lawyer. I don’t believe in letting things like that slide, and on WP.com I’m sure of my ground. There would be hair on the walls when I was finished with him, you may be sure.
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@ raincoaster: Thanks for your reply. Was your Romanian example a coincidence? The blog in question IS Romanian, and I don’t think they’ll be willing to listen to zeynepankara the way she behaved.
@dlager: And this is what my previous post was about, not comment moderation or blog content.
@ellaella: I’m afraid you’re being too sibyllic for me.
@zeynepankara: So, expressing a contrary opinion is “a shame” and “wants to make you unhappy”. Interesting. And then “enemy”, “SPAM”, “passing and running”. Very interesting (I marvel at your divining powers). And then you reprimand another blogger because he dared reply to me. All the more interesting.
I’m not in the habit of “passing and running”, so here’s my view of the whole thing, in case you can sober down.
The gist of the matter is what ellaella wrote earlier: “crediting someone does not negate copyright violation”. You have a copyright notice in your blog, so you are absolutely right when you write “he can’t use my post without permission”, and it’s your prerogative not to see the matter as cnuk does. Cnuk, however, had a point too: the blog you accuse (dedicated to depression) says they thought it was worth posting your story, and gives your name and a link to your blog. Copyright violation alright, but not stealing: stealing would be posting your text as their own (or using in a way they would make money out of it), which they didn’t. In my opinion, calmly asking them to withdraw the post since they didn’t have your permission would have been both more mature and more likely to have results than the hostile “you stole my post”. (Psychologist, you said?) Did it occur to you that maybe they did it good-naturedly, or maybe they thought they were doing you a service by advertising your blog? Or simply that they made a mistake they might be willing to correct if you just asked them (instead of pissing them off, as raincoaster says)?
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How zeynepankara chooses to react to THEFT is her choice, and really shouldn’t be open to judgment. So long as she follows the proper channels to rid of the problem, which she appears to be doing. The whole philosophical slant of whether it’s actually theft? How about opening your own thread under ‘ideas’ or ‘questions’ and let the woman take care of HER issue?
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@ panaghiotisadam, you obviously don’t know as many Romanians as I do. The art of pitching a fit is central to the culture. I chose it as an example because there’s nothing more opposite to the culture of my own country, but we must acknowledge that the rights of victims to express themselves supercedes the right of any particular culture to assert its mores on foreigners. By Canadian standards, that response was way out of line; by Romanian standards, she hasn’t even had her coffee yet, to judge from the posts.
And calmly asserting one’s rights in accordance with restrained mores only works with the rational and those bounded by a similar code of behavior. In a more expressive culture, they’ll think you don’t really mean it.
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panaghiotisadam, legally that re-post IS in fact theft. And morally as well. Blog scrapers and thieves all over the world make a living doing this; it is absolutely standard criminal behaviour. If someone does not want to be viewed as a criminal, the best way to prevent that is not to engage in criminal behaviors.
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