Copyright infringement

  • Unknown's avatar

    Recently, I have typed my http://www.secondchancetolive.wordpress.com into different search engines. When I entered it into Alta Vista I saw my site with in another persons site introduction. They made reference to something I stated in my book –which is copyright with Library of Congress — as referenced on my web log. The site on Alta Vista took a line of what I said to be an intro to him trying to sell something. I feel as though I am being exploited and my material being used to promote something other than my intention. What can I do about this type of behavior from this and other sites?

  • No one uses altavista, so I wouldn’t worry about it too much. People also have a fair use right to quote a portion of your book. You can read about fair use here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

  • Unknown's avatar

    Surely links and quotes from other people is what you want? Or have I missed something. All publicity is good publicity any way.

  • Unknown's avatar

    If I remember correctly, and they are using someone’s material (your material) in a way to sell something, … then you can pretty much forget the “fair use” argument!
    Your copyright material, … for their financial benefit. That’s a no no!

    Simply contact their ISP with your concerns, stating “clearly” what you think the main issue is, and let them take it from there. (Give them some time on this)
    By law, if a infringement exists, they have to remove the infringing material or shut down the site.

  • Unknown's avatar

    All publicity is good publicity any way.

    Tell that to Gary Hart and Hugh Grant. :)

    If you post the URL of the other site, I can let you know who to send a complaint to. We’ve talked about these sites before here in the forums (Search for spam scrapers) and folks have complained. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.

    I would break the link so that it doesn’t give those folks credit for that link.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Dr. Mike,
    Thanks so much. this is the site. I copied it off of the page that is on the first page after entering secondchancetolive. No www or wordpress is needed. Let know what you think Sir. Thanks so much.
    Craig

    I Got Off My Assets ” Blog Archive ” An Answer To Any Question – Goals, Tasks, Whatever You Need To Know
    Getting the answer to any question. Do you ever feel stuck and don’t know … Thank you February 14, 2007 Posted by secondchancetolive in Life, Creativity…
    selfhelptips.com/wordpress/94/an-answer-to-any-question-go…whatever-you-need-to-know
    More pages from selfhelptips.com

  • Unknown's avatar

    Also please tell me how to break such links for the future if I find out someone is exploiting me for their gain. Dr. Mike, also please let me know if their is a free service or some type of widget that can check if my material is being stolen or pirated on the www.

    Thanks so much, Sir.

    Craig

  • Unknown's avatar

    I copied it off of the page that is on the first page after entering secondchancetolive

    Please point to the page (ie give the URL for it) on your blog that you’re talking about. That and the URL of the link with the copyright issue. I’ll show you how to break it. I don’t see the text from that selfhelp URL within your blog anywhere.

    I can’t give legal advise here in the forums. Best bet would be to occassionally drop phrases from your posts into search engines and see if you get any hits.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hmm. I am not sure what you are asking me to point to in the brief explanation at Alta Vista that I gave you above, Sir. I am new to all this new nomenclature. I guess my concern is that Mr. Obrien takes a phrase from one the pages of my book…to set up something he want to say and be heard saying. No reference is made to http://www.secondchancetolive.wordpress.com
    at his site that I can see. I hope I am not making a big deal out of nothing, but I am new and am suspicious of people who take what I say out of the context of how I use it to draw people to their site. My weblog is increasing exponentially every day and I want to know if people that do such things as Mr. Obrien in Getting off my Assets is legit or a red flag.
    Thanks for your patience as I learn.
    Craig

  • Unknown's avatar

    Please give the URL of the phrase where it exists within your blog.

    Please give the URL of where it occurs on the other site.

    /me notices that you’re here in Charlotte. Want a house call? ;)

  • Unknown's avatar

    Dr. Mike
    Write me at my email address and a house call sounds great. Thank you Sir.

    Craig

  • Unknown's avatar

    I don’t know your email address as I don’t have backend access. theapparatus ( at ) gmail ( dot ) com

    I was joking but I don’t mind. :)

  • Unknown's avatar

    Dr Mike (email visible only to moderators and staff). That should get you to my inbox. Not wanting to give more personal information for general consumption. Hope you understand. Talk with you later.

    Happy trails.

    Craig

  • Unknown's avatar

    We also have a copyright blogger right here at wordpress at http://copywrite.wordpress.com/ that might have some useful background for you.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Thank you so very much Raincoaster. Very helpful. God bless you.

    Have a great weekend.

    Craig

  • Unknown's avatar

    You too, Craig. Don’t worry, authenticity always wins out. I’m a cynic, but I have seen it happen so many times. Not to worry.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Dear all,

    I just found out about the above problem yesterday and can tell one and all this is NOT a copyright infringement. I have been in touch with Craig to tell him exactly what has happened and trust he will come back here to confirm this.

    Unfortunately I doubt I will be the first or the last person to be falsely labelled or indeed “tagged” (Thieves, Copyright, Infringement, Infidels, Scrapers – as this page shows).

    Craigs information was never used on my website intentionally by me.

    Instead, I have an RSS feed from Technorati on the RHS of my blog page which shows blog snippets of related content from the blogosphere as and when visitors (or in this case search bots) come to the site.

    This of course is a legitimate way to keep your page content fresh and to offer visitors a choice of related content.

    The searchbots take a snapshot of the page and index it and of course when results are shown, they often stitch part results from the page in an attempt to give the results context.

    Hence, Craig saw his quote attached to some of the main page information. Had Craig visited the page he would not have seen any of his information at all (as the RSS feed is dynamic and the results would have been updated with new blog posts from other authors – of course this depends on the volatility of the subject matter).

    The only way you can see such results is to visit the cache pages of the search engine and see what they crawled at a given point in time.

    I’m glad I found this post (albeit by accident) so this issue can be put to bed.

    Regards,
    Tom O’Brien

  • Unknown's avatar

    Thanks for the clarification. We often encounter issues like these, and the more we can learn about legitimate use (and tools like RSS feeds from Technorati) the better off we’ll all be.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Without viewing the article in question, and I don’t feel like looking for it, I’m not going to state my opinion.

    Don’t you think though that asking first for permission would have been a better idea though? You can now see what happens since you didn’t. May be legal but it may also not be the best way to have done it.

  • Unknown's avatar

    But you DID state your opinion. And I disagree: technorati is just a search engine, and it doesn’t post entire articles even with the RSS thingy. I’d call it well within fair use. If there’s a copyright violation (and I don’t think there is), it’s on Technorati’s part.

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