Edit function is missing

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    Sorry. That last post was directed at teepee12.

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    Why are you involved in this discussion? You never used the function. You clearly are not a writer. If you don’t even understand what is under discussion, why is your oar in the water?

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    @ fjordaniv,

    Think of it as an equivalent of a built in edit button for a page, but one that is accessible from anywhere on that page.

    Thanks. I get it now. Yes, I agree that would be useful. Wasn’t aware of that feature.

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    @ teepee12,

    You clearly are not a writer.

    Whether or not I am a writer is hardly germane.

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    Thanks. I get it now. Yes, I agree that would be useful. Wasn’t aware of that feature.

    I didn’t know about it until fairly recently, but once I did, I used it constantly. Some themes exclusively rely on this feature for editing (hence teepee12’s frustration).

    That WordPress’s programmers would remove a necessary feature is another indication of the chaotic and poorly thought-out nature of these “improvements.”

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    @ fjordaniv,

    I didn’t know about it until fairly recently, but once I did, I used it constantly.

    Thanks for the clarification. I would have used it too, had I known about it. Instead I’ve typically used “edit” and “view” bookmarks when working on a post or page. Of course, the drawback is that bookmarks have to be created for every significant post and page. I would definitely advocate that a universal edit tab be included on every post and page.

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    To Musicdoc1 – YES it IS germane because editing is uniquely important to writers in a way that it is NOT nearly as important to those whose focus is graphical, for example. It really DOES matter whether or not you actually USE the function whether or not you can address it. If you have never used it, never even knew it existed, have never had any reason to use it … then why are you involved in a discussion when you don’t understand the issues? or how much it affects others who do use the function? I’m sure there are functions that you use and which are important to you for which i have no particular use and may not even know exist. I wouldn’t bother to get involved in a discussion about any of these functions … because … well, why would I? I, for example, have just one blog. I have no use for anything which will simultaneously edit multiple blogs. But you do. Why would I get in the middle of your discussion if I don’t use the function and probably will never need it?

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    @teepee12,

    …then why are you involved in a discussion when you don’t understand the issues?

    People learn by asking questions. Before there is knowledge there is an inquiring disposition, an appetite for knowledge, and willingness to engage in the struggle to learn. I learned about this useful, and no longer available, tool by asking questions here.

    As I mentioned above I would have found the edit tab very useful had I been aware of it. Would have saved me a lot of time and effort.

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    @teepee12,

    And incidentally, I learned from you, fjordaniv, and the other contributors here. Thank you very much everyone!

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    (I’ve posted this elsewhere, but this seems to be the main thread, so I’m copying it here too.)

    Hi everyone, sorry about the delay.

    We’ve been having ongoing internal discussions about how to balance the need to keep the admin bar as clean and consistent as possible while also making sure our users (and HEs) have access to the tools they need to do their best work.

    For the moment, we are asking that you try using the edit links in your themes and see if after you’ve used it for awhile you still miss the drop-down edit option.

    If you have a theme that doesn’t include an edit link on posts and pages, or if you don’t know where the edit link is on your posts and pages, we want to know that so we can get the theme updated and/or help you find the link.

    I know this isn’t the answer that you were hoping for, so I understand your disappointment and frustration. Is there anything short of bringing the edit dropdown option back that will let you know we are listening to and considering your feedback?

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    @teepee12

    Bloggy is one of the few themes that doesn’t include the edit option in the theme. We are working to rectify that now.

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    My theme, which is a PREMIUM theme for which I actually PAID, does not and never did have an editing link.

    BLOGLY.

    I relied exclusively on the dropdown menu since it was the only option I ever had. Frankly, I don’t see why it’s such a big deal to continue to have an edit link in the menu. You mean having that single line which says EDIT is going to ruin your “look?” You will lose customers because there’s an EDIT link in the dropdown menu? Seriously? You are far more likely to lose customers because it ISN’T there.

    Have you talked to the people who use your services? I sometimes wonder in what reality you dwell, because I worked as a member of a development team for my entire adult life and career and you guys don’t get it. Functionality is ALWAYS more important than appearance.
    Development should never about how pretty your interface is. It needs to be about how well it serves those who depend on it.

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    BLOGLY — NOT BLOGGY. They are NOT THE SAME THEME.

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    BLOGLY. BLOGLY. NOT BLOGGY. Oof.

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    @lizthefair

    [quote] I know this isn’t the answer that you were hoping for, so I understand your disappointment and frustration. Is there anything short of bringing the edit dropdown option back that will let you know we are listening to and considering your feedback? [/quote]

    If the feedback from bloggers is to bring the edit dropdown option back, then – no. Nothing other than reinstating it will indicate that bloggers are being listened to and that the the feedback is being taken seriously.

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    Yes. That is true. You really need to show that the people who are YOUR ACTUAL REAL LIFE CUSTOMERS matter to you. By your actions, not just words. If you continue to ignore us on every single thing, then we we all eventually find somewhere else to do our thing. Like so many other organizations before you (would you like a list of the once great companies that disappeared because they didn’t listen to their customers?), you will discover customer relations is actually THE most important thing, not whatever ephemeral gain you think you will get from making a pretty but non-functional interface.

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    BLOGLY — NOT BLOGGY. They are NOT THE SAME THEME.

    This was absolutely a typo on my part. I checked to be sure your actual theme BLOGLY, is the one that is being updated.

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    It’s obvious the designers/tech people do not use WP, or they wouldn’t have eliminated a needed function.

    When looking an already published post and finding an error that needs to be corrected we used to be able to open the post to the editor right where we were reading in the post, or open in a new tab so as to not lose our place.

    Bring back the Edit button, please. We need it. This extra scrolling is not an efficient use of our time.

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    I am a professional … I am not a teenager or bored housewife with a “hobby” blog. I need to edit … and I need it quickly. I don’t have time for this scrolling and jumping around.

    Why are we “dumbing” everything down rather than maintaining the position which Word Press has had up to now … which was as a stellar resource for bloggers and writers … serious ones. There is enough “twitter” and ‘Facebook” junk out there already. Can we not at least have a decent blogging platform. It’s bad enough that the media have sold out to sensationalism, and that a flick of the TV dial brings up “reality” shows which feature the morbidly obese, men with six wives and people who live out of garbage cans. What is happening when intelligent people dedicated to their craft are being ignored and disrespected by an organization which up to now has maintained an excellent relationship with its members?

    Please listen to us with respect due to intelligent and experienced writers … which many of us are. Don’t palm off platitudes about “positive support” … which as far as I can see must be solely from your staff and relatives. It most certainly is NOT here.

    I need to edit. I take pride in my work. I’m not twittering and tweeting like a demented bird. I WORK at quality because my name is at stake.

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    For the moment, we are asking that you try using the edit links in your themes and see if after you’ve used it for awhile you still miss the drop-down edit option.

    WordPress essentially said the same thing about the new UI. You remove a feature, then expect us to adapt to it. It’s now necessary to scroll more frequently to do something we could have done more easily a matter of days ago.

    If you have a theme that doesn’t include an edit link on posts and pages, or if you don’t know where the edit link is on your posts and pages, we want to know that so we can get the theme updated and/or help you find the link.

    YOU provide the themes. It should be WordPress’s responsibility to update them—or better yet, don’t remove the feature in the first place. WordPress imposes a series of poorly thought out and implemented changes and we’re supposed to point out your mistakes?

    And you wonder why we’re furious.

    I know this isn’t the answer that you were hoping for, so I understand your disappointment and frustration. Is there anything short of bringing the edit dropdown option back that will let you know we are listening to and considering your feedback?

    No, there isn’t.

    I can’t speak for everyone, but it’s safe to say that many of us are tired of the staff’s assurances that our feedback is being “considered,” particularly when such claims are followed by another round of poorly designed interfaces, missing features, and further pleas for feedback so we, the users, can point out the flaws and errors in the new designs.

    WordPress burned those bridges last month—now you’re demolishing the foundations as well.

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