Editor Feedback
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@fjordaniv et al
But why do they CARE which tools we use? What difference does it make to them? Why NOT let us have what we need? It costs them nothing to let us have tools that already exist and simply allow us to access them … and it costs them both good will and real money (in lost customers) to make our lives more difficult. I don’t understand. It’s bad business, bad customer relations … and terrible product development. WordPress is putting all its money into customers who aren’t going to hang around. Rumors to the contrary notwithstanding, there are not an unlimited ocean of new users to keep replacing the ones who leave in frustration and disgust. It makes no sense to me, not on any level. It just seems spiteful and mean-spirited.
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…ok, I don’t get why nothing is happening since so many persons are complaining about the new editor. I now tried it out for my past three posts and yes, I can only agree – it is much more time consuming and confusing!!! The old editor was so, SO (…do you read this – SO) very easy and fast to use – whoop whoop and the pictures where up. Whoop whoop and you could actually FIND your posts and read the whole title… Whoop whoop and you could add a link oh so very easily… So why is it all gone? What for? Can’t we just have a choice and get what we feel most comfortable with? That switching over to compture screen view all the time because it shows me the mobile view is so unnerving… I wonder how many people actually write their posts on a mobile…^^
PLEASE do concider giving us a choice to change back – PLEASE…!!! You just can’t ignore all of us unhappy bloggers out here :(
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I don’t see these changes as intentionally malicious—arrogant, perhaps, but they aren’t intentionally trying to frustrate us.
I saw a response in a discussion concerning “democratization.” This probably accounts for much of the push for the new interfaces. For the most basic of bloggers operating with slow cellular networks, the new interfaces might be sufficient. This isn’t an unworthy goal, however I see no need for a single interface that alienates or excludes more experienced bloggers who use laptops and desktops.
What IS especially frustrating is the endless stream of bugs, justification, and silence. We’re encouraged to speak up, yet our many complaints and concerns are often brushed aside. This isn’t mendacious, but it does demonstrate a frustrating single-mindedness.
It will come down to a basic decision for many bloggers; as the old tools become increasingly inaccessible, will the frustrations of dealing with constant interface changes outweigh the joy of blogging in a free, reliable environment? If so, perhaps its time to look elsewhere. WordPress might finally listen if enough paying bloggers leave.
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I remember when a radio station changed formats in my area many years ago. They started playing that Henry the Eighth song, over and over and over… For several weeks people kept tuning in to see if it was still screwed up. WP is the radio station changing formats, and we are the stupid people who won’t change the channel. Simple as that.
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@fjordaniv and others
I don’t think WP is making changes to frustrate us–upsetting customers isn’t a great business practice–but they managed to do it anyway. I know other unhappy bloggers–one told me she “hates it passionately”–but they haven’t expressed their opinions. This thread is currently at 24 pages, and some commenters are weighing in more than once, so how many have responded with negative comments? Not many, it looks like.
We are the unhappy few, and WP has no incentive to pay attention to us.
When WP announced the link to the Classic editor would be removed and we’d have to access it by adding to the URL, I asked what advantage WP got from making access more difficult. I received this reply: “It helps by allowing us to get more people using the new WordPress.com faster. The more people there are using, it the better we’ll be able to do with our work to improve the new and move forward using a new infrastructure that is faster and scales better.”
I just want the new one to do what the old one does. Change the underpinnings but leave the user interface alone. And don’t release the new version until it’s usable.
Another of my Why’s (actually, I remarked it looked like they just wanted to dumb things down) received this reply: The change was made to take advantage of better infrastructure and a new codebase that works well with newer browsers. Also, many changes were made based on past user feedback from here in the forums.
I chose WP because it had more functionality than other sites, I taught myself how to use it, and I loved it. I’m not a sophisticated user. I use a laptop and do not have anything close to a smart phone (doing fine without). Many of my posts run around 1000 words plus pictures. I can’t imagine using a phone to write a long post. I can’t imagine reading one on it either. If that makes me a dinosaur, I’m still ahead of the new editor page.
It would be nice if they could run parallel editor pages.
Life is good and I’m ashamed to get so wrought up over this little irritant, so I shall concentrate on detachment and consider how to proceed. But my opinion won’t change. And I’ll continue to follow the conversation among kindred spirits.
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I no longer really have a stake in this fight. I jumped to a self-hosted site in January, and it’s wonderful (admittedly, I once had another self-hosted site, so I was comfortable with the transition). I came back after experiencing the new editor because the complaints on this thread were virtually identical to those we raised against WP’s changes last year. This is the way they’re going, and the experienced long-form and visual bloggers have choices to make.
They’ll improve the new editor incrementally as they did the stats page, but much of the usability will be lost on laptops and desktops (I believe that the most sophisticated bloggers do their most serious work on these devices). Bloggers can choose to remain here and adapt to these changes, they can quit blogging altogether (I hope not!), or they can look elsewhere, be it another service or self-hosting.
The complaints on this thread are legitimate, but we’re looking at the future of WP.com now, and it looks like weeks or months of additional beta testing on an interface that should never have been released to develop a product that is more difficult to use while simultaneously losing a number of features. If users can adapt, fine. If they’re happy, they have no reason to leave. if not, if blogging is no longer enjoyable, then they should consider other alternatives.
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I’m sure we’re not a minority here. I know several bloggers (as others do, too) who hate the new editor. They just don’t bother to post here and think they must work with what they got.
Then there are bloggers who don’t speak English and hate the new editor, they don’t show up here, either.
I am looking into WP.org now.
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My main problem (assuming it’s to do with the new editor) is that, since around the date mentioned for the upgrade, I am unable to load photos which you can click on to get them in full size-resolution. As some of my posts are ‘photography’ posts, this isn’t suitable for me. Basically, the ‘a href’ statement has been taken out of the HTML behind the ‘add media’ button. Can we have this put back in please?
I also fully agree with the comment below from ‘grandtrines’:
“Also: please stop hiding the old statistics page. It is MUCH better than the new one. And forcing that awful new sidebar on us removes much needed functionality. Give us options to keep, and use, the old sidebar, old stats page, and old editor. They may not be mobile-friendly, or whatever is driving this push for the buggy, reduced functionality stuff, but they work very well for those of us competent enough to use them.”
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I’m sure this is asked/answered somewhere, but all I found in the “Search” area was the same question asked today (with no answer) and I didn’t have any luck via Google…
On the old version we could embed links and make images clickable. Is that still an option? If so, how? If not, will it be again at some point…? (If updates are ongoing…it would be great if those clicks could open new windows so less savvy and/or focused readers don’t end up leaving authors’ pages inadvertently.)
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Hi. I am catching up with this thread. I will try to reply to a few of the more recent comments in order, and I will be focused on actionable feedback.
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So I gather this is the right place to add my voice to the choire. I’m gonna do it as simple as I can, no wall of text here.
please freeze the visual/HTML tabs on top,
please give us back the HTML-editor buttons,
and most important, please give us back the advanced image settings, I used those a lot! -
I’ve been using the new editor for very minor revisions only. One very STRONG request: at least restore the formatting toolbar at the top of the HTML window. I see absolutely NO reason to not have it there, seeing how much time it saves.
Thank you.
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There is still a very obvious glitch in visual mode, that happens on my iPod when writing but also replicated on a completely different computer (in a hotel lobby) running google chrome – when resizing pictures that have captions, the caption is replaced with the caption from the first picture in the post. It doesn’t happen when changing alignment, only when changing size.
Incidentally, I looked at the new editor on a computer screen for the first time yesterday. I echo the comments about the width – although it’s not the end of the world. In contrast, I withdraw my previous comment about having to re-click the preview to open in a new window as on the computer, the in-screen preview, with options to change to mobile/ tablet/ screen view worked well.
Thanks
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Came across this thread while researching an issue. Is anyone else having an issues with using [code] blocks? I recently started a post and went to embed some code in HTML mode. I used the [code] blocks and put my code between them. If I hit preview from HTML mode, the post looks fine. But if when I switch to VISUAL mode in the editor, I lose all my indentations within my code block and everything ends up left justified. This used to work fine so I assume it might have something to do with the recent updates?
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Problem with new editor: Inserting image URL
I keep most of my images in my Picasa album and just insert their URL in the blog (i e not uploading them on the blog).
Works perfectly in the old editor, which I continue using.
In the new editor I find the possibility (as before)
“Insert by URL”: OK
but when I go there I can only choose “Upload”, which I do not want. ??https://lenaikistaminnen.wordpress.com/
So, PLEASE say you will NOT remove the old editor. Thank you.
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It is over 2 weeks since you asked me to leave it with you and you would see if the tech guys could find out which version of iOS the iPad needed. I am still unable to include a clickable website link even by copying and pasting into the text. I still cannot move from editing one post or page to another without having to exit the site and come back in as it won’t load the next post, I just get flashing grey bars and no text. Every time. It is extremely time-consuming. The preview screen often freezes, it won’t scroll, but I can see the previous screen scrolling behind it.
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How do I get back the old editor ? I think I like that much better, missing the video and photo link feature. Thank you for your help.
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How do I get back the old editor ?
You cannot deactivate the new Beep Beep Boop editor but you do not have to use it. For locating the ways and means of accessing the legacy or classic pages for creating posts, editing posts, and for viewing stats see here > Navigating the Classic WordPress.COM interface http://onecoolsite.wordpress.com/2015/04/05/navigating-the-classic-wordpress-com-interface/
On the dashboard of your own blog at
Dashboard > Posts > All Posts > Add New
To create posts in the classic editor for you that link ishttps://worldfusionchicago.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post-new.php
On the dashboard of your own blog at
Dashboard > Posts > All Posts one can hover over any post title and click the Edit link. and proceed with editing. -
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