Feedback Thread for the Block Editor
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@justjennifer
Asking forsupport for a problem you’ve encountered while using the Block Editor
IS feedback on the block editor.
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Musicdoc’s comment to which he replied IS feedback on the block editor
Thanks. : -)
@kokkieh said,If you created a new account, your site will also have been created with one of the new Varia child themes, which were all specifically created for the block editor. If you have one of those themes active on a site, the option to switch to classic is not available, as those themes don’t work with the classic editor.
So, a key question would be, on a site created with one of the new Varia child themes on a new account, does switching to another older theme make any difference? Does switching to an older theme allow the Edit links to open to anything other than the Block Editor? Does switching to an older theme make a “Switch to Classic Editor” option available?
Here are the answers to each of those questions that I received in testing on the following older themes:
Twenty Seventeen (introduced: 2017)…..No.
Twenty Sixteen (2016)………………………………No.
Blask, Pique (2015)……………………………………No.
Edin, Sketch (2014)……………………………………No.
Twenty Twelve (2012)……………………………….No.
Twenty Eleven (2011)………………………………..No.
P2 (2009)……………………………………………………..No. -
@musicdoc1 The key here is when your WPcom account was created.
The Block Editor became the default for all new accounts since around December 2019. Users whose accounts were created at that time who wanted or needed to change to the Classic Editor and were unable to do so themselves had Staff change their site to the Classic Editor for them.
Staff have already mentioned innumerable times in this thread and elsewhere that both the Classic Block in the Block Editor and the Classic Editor in WP Admin are available.
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Hi, @musicdoc1 :)
Here are the answers to each of those questions that I received in testing on the following older themes:
Twenty Seventeen (introduced: 2017)…..No.
Twenty Sixteen (2016)………………………………No.
Blask, Pique (2015)……………………………………No.
Edin, Sketch (2014)……………………………………No.
Twenty Twelve (2012)……………………………….No.
Twenty Eleven (2011)………………………………..No.
P2 (2009)……………………………………………………..No.What about Twenty Nineteen, or Business, or Lodestar…(just a few examples of newer Automattic themes). Or Radcliffe 2, or Independent Publisher 2… (examples of non Automattic themes).
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Staff have already mentioned innumerable times in this thread and elsewhere that both the Classic Block in the Block Editor and the Classic Editor in WP Admin are available.
Thanks, but I’m aware that the date of the account creation is a key factor, which is why I stated the following in this comment on the previous page here before describing the results I was obtaining on a new account:
I hadn’t experienced any trouble avoiding either the Calypso editor or the Block Editor on my old accounts. But I wanted to better understand what new account holders were experiencing, so today I created a new account.
Also, it seems like you might be missing my point. For those with newer accounts, the Classic Editor is available where? The account was created yesterday, and I’m unable to find any way to get to the Classic Editor or even the Calypso editor on the new site. I know very well how to get to the Classic Editor on sites on my older accounts, and I’ve described how within this thread and in the recent Switch to Classic Editor topic.
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The answer is No on the following: Lodestar, Business, Twenty Nineteen, Radcliffe 2, Independent Publisher 2. So that’s 14 themes, on none of which I find links to the Classic Editor or an option to switch to Classic, on sites on a new account (created yesterday). I’m not gonna test them all.
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@musicdoc1 Thank you a lot for your response and for your checks. :)
It seems to me that maybe then we should open a specific thread on the volunteers blog.
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For those with newer accounts, the Classic Editor is available where?
Have you tried adding /wp-admin to the address of your new site?
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“If new users cannot get the classic editor, it means that the promise earlier that the classic editor will continue for the foreseeable future, that there are no plans to remove it, is at least misleading as it is only a half-truth.” (2x)
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No trouble at all getting in WP-Admin. The problem is that all of the Edit links in WP-Admin AND My Sites go to Block Editors.
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Are you sure there isn’t an arrow next to All Posts Add New (Not the Add New in the black menu) to choose which editor you want to use?
If not then this certainly needs further clarification so that volunteers give out the correct information.
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Yes, as I mentioned in the comment #3510225 on the previous page here, I was looking for the following:
1. The “Switch to Classic” option at the bottom of Settings in the Block Editor.
2. A toggle betweeen “Block Editor” and “Classic Editor” at All Posts and All Pages in WP-Admin, which can be disabled (eliminated) by choosing to “Switch to Classic” option at the bottom of Settings in the Block Editor.
3. “Classic Editor” links under individual posts and pages, All Posts and All Pages, in WP-Admin, which can be disabled (eliminated) by choosing to “Switch to Classic” option at the bottom of Settings in the Block Editor.
These were missing in every case on the new site, with each of the themes I tested. All Edit links go the Block Editor (front and backend), and I find no switch option anywhere.
I had only tested in Google Chrome before, now I’ve test a couple of themes in Firefox as well. That’s why I’m in my new account at this moment.
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I should have said:
The toggle between “Block Editor” and “Classic Editor” at All Posts > Add New and All Pages > Add New, in WP-Admin
It’s not present in any case on the new account.
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Hmm It looks like things are currently in flux. I assume you’ve loaded an older theme? Switching over to the classic editor via the Block editor and going to wp-admin I now reach a different looking All Posts page (back to that horrible washed out blue). However clicking on Add new or any existing post title takes me to the good old wp-admin classic editor
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I now reach a different looking All Posts page (back to that horrible washed out blue).
That page has now disappeared and the “old” All posts page has returned in wp-admin. The dropdown arrow has now gone but either “Add new” goes to the classic editor.
Now if I re enable the Block editor and go back to wp-admin I once again get the arrow to choose editors. -
Sorry-got sidetracked by an important zoom lesson.
@musicdoc1 you said,Also, it seems like you might be missing my point. For those with newer accounts, the Classic Editor is available where?
Sorry if it wasn’t clear in my earlier reply. New accounts that are not able to switch to the Classic Editor need Staff assistance to change to it since it doesn’t appear in the Block Editor’s sidebar. This is also mentioned in the other thread you linked to in your reply:
My site doesn’t have ‘Switch to Classic Editor’ beneath the ‘Options’ line on the right side. The article says, if you don’t have this to contact Support–can you please help me? Thank you!
This has been the “norm” since last December.
But we’re “grinding water” here on something that we know is currently in flux, where we do not yet know how WordPress.com will implement the changeover or how access to the Classic Editor in WP Admin will be implemented. It might be better to wait until the dust has settled in order to provide feed back on that.
Meanwhile the request here is still “feedback on the block editor” as requested by Staff.
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Now if I re enable the Block editor and go back to wp-admin I once again get the arrow to choose editors.
Yes, I noticed a few days ago that the “Add New” toggle between “Block Editor” and “Classic Editor” is only present when the Block Editor is enabled. I described the process of disabling it and enabling it again in the topic Switch to the Classic Editor (page 1, replies #3509560 and #3509768). Incidentally, the “Classic Editor” links under the individual post and pages also are present or not depending upon which editor is enabled.
These alternate modes are also described briefly in numbers 2. and 3. in my three-item list above. On an older account, it’s very easy go back and forth between these two modes in a matter of seconds. The “Classic Editor” links, the two option toggle switch, and the “Switch to Classic Editor” are all completely absent on the new account. It’s not a question of which mode you’re in as it is on an older account.
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Thanks. You said earlier (my emphasis added):
The Block Editor became the default for all new accounts since around December 2019. Users whose accounts were created at that time who wanted or needed to change to the Classic Editor and were unable to do so themselves had Staff change their site to the Classic Editor for them.
Now you say (my emphasis),
New accounts that are not able to switch to the Classic Editor need Staff assistance to change to it since it doesn’t appear in the Block Editor’s sidebar.
In both cases the suggestion is that some users might able to switch on their own, and some not. How would some people be able switch on their own when no switch is present? Am I wrong to infer from what you’ve said that on new accounts since December some still have switches?
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