Feedback Thread for the Block Editor
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Can I ask you to please open your own support request at https://wordpress.com/help/contact?
Then we can help you figure this out without everyone else getting email notifications and other people’s comments making it harder to help you.
This thread is intended for feedback only, not in-depth troubleshooting on specific issues.
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Completely dropped the ball forcing everyone to use the Block editor. Poor design and poor layout.
Keep It Simple Stupid.
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Yeah, it’s not simple. It has over 2,000 blocks, so it’s like 2,000 wordprocessors in one, each slightly (or majorly) different. What a deal!
Oops, I had resolved not to post here anymore. Sorry.
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I think the new block editor is decent overall. It has more functions (at least, I am using more functions) than the classic editor, and I love the idea of all the different features like post carousels, blog posts, navigation links, and image galleries. Overall, it looks cleaner and is jacked with cool features.
The one issue I have with it is selecting blocks (especially the form block). It’s so clunky, and it gives me a headache when you have to select groups of blocks. I sometimes get an error message when trying to select more than one block (not quite sure why that is). Additionally, there’s no way to set a default line height (or any way to mass edit multiple blocks of one type, like paragraph blocks), which makes having to go through and edit really annoying. The whole process of choosing and moving blocks is messy.
I like how the classic editor is still there, but the block editor could be smoother and easier to use. However, I love how many different features there are!
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I suppose it is something to see that someone somewhere actually likes the block editor!
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Of course, Peri likes to use all sorts of complicated functions, there are very many who do, for instance to include all sorts of images, but there are also many who do not, who hate it, and who prefer something easy and simple. With a site this applies especially to those whose site is essentially text, plain and straight without fancy, and that has been the theme of most of the critics on this thread. I do not believe that they are a tiny minority but a very large number who should be given more consideration. Mabel in particular has expressed their attitude very clearly.
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I agree with Halilac, I do seem to be one of the few people who actually like the editor, lol!
I think the biggest issue with the block editor for me is simply performance. There’s so many features (which is great), but sometimes basic but major details get overlooked, like mass text editing, formatting, selecting, etc. Another big issue is reusable blocks— for some reason, editing reusable blocks/adding new blocks to them crashes my entire editor, making me start over.
Once the performance is better, it’ll definitely be more impressive than the classic editor for sure— at least for me.
I will say, the staff seems to not be sleeping based on how fast they’re replying to support requests on the forum! Kudos to them!
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Thank you @perigousse! We do sleep, just at different times 😅
Performance issues with selecting noted: we were able to reproduce some and get a screen capture to the right time. Would you be willing to open a new thread about the issues you’re having with reusable blocks? And, could you send more details about the other issues you’re having? I suspect what you’re describing is what’s bothering others, too.
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And remember we’re hoping to find out:
– What’s your typical process?
– What is getting in the way?
– If you could adjust one feature, what would it be?
Sorry for the non-attribution of the above to @supernovia – this is my first post here and I couldn’t see how to do that with the reply.
I write the occasional blog post 2 or 3 times a year. My process:
1. Write the actual text in Word.
2. Go to my blog page on WordPress, click the “Write” button.
3. Go to Word, copy everything I just wrote, go to WordPress, paste it all in.
4. Give my blog post a title.
5. Go to Google to find an appropriate header image, save it to my computer.
6. Go to WordPress, add the image I just saved to the media library, then insert it below the title.
7. Repeat step 6 if there are other images I wish to insert in the middle of my post.
8. Add any links to other sites I might have referenced as hotlinks in my blog text.
9. Add whatever tags I wish to use.
10. Preview, and if it looks good, publish.
11. There are usually a couple of editing steps that I need to take after publishing to clean up awkward sentence structures or formatting that didn’t reveal themselves initially.Like many others here, I am just a writer, not a website creator. I don’t need much else and the editor as I’ve known it works well for me. I don’t want that to go away. It distresses me to see how so many members are justifiably stirred up by this. I can relate, as I don’t use HTML or CSS or anything else like that, and I have no idea what things like “Jetpack” others have mentioned might be.
I actually came to these forums today looking for a definition of “blocks”, why this new editor is called a block editor, and what makes blocks better. I still don’t know that answer.
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@gregbeau, quote:
I still don’t know that answer”
Perhaps this article can clarify:
https://www.wpbeginner.com/beginners-guide/how-to-use-the-new-wordpress-block-editor/#:~:text=The new editor uses a,screen to create content layouts.
Quoting from the article:
The new editor uses a totally different approach, called ‘Blocks’ (hence, the name Block Editor).Blocks are content elements that you add to the edit screen to create content layouts. Each item you add to your post or page is a block.
(Dont’t be fooled though, where it says that the editor is “easy” to use. It is not.)
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Sorry for the non-attribution of the above to @supernovia – this is my first post here and I couldn’t see how to do that with the reply.
The way you’ve done it is fine. If you simply start @username, followed by the quote, then it’s implicit that the quote is by the user. Alternatively, you could add something like “You said,” before the quote.
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Hi again :)
Most recently, we now have an intranet with a similar block Editor at work.
Therefore I now have a slightly different view of the WordPress editor. You can do more with it, but you have to need / use it.The system at work has a more present frame layout in the draft workspace, so it looks better because it is easier to see individual elements and sections in the design. (I have never been a fan of borderless designs :P)
An advantage of Worpdress is the range of functions. The system at work is e.g. slimmed down so much that you can’t do anything with it, but with WordPress you can design extensive pages. However, when I using the system at my workplace , so a similar block editor in basic terms, I have the goal of combining all functions into beautiful pages and I need to do so for my work. At work wordpress would be fine for me with the new editor.
But for my purpose in using WordPress it is not needed. It is different when using only text than create fine sites / posts or how it is named. I just write simply text with an image (since the folder space is so limited) I just need a normal text field and an image element, for which the old editor is ideal.
Perhaps I would use other designs if I had unlimited space for pictures in the memory, but since I purposely do not make any money with my blog and keep making it minus, this is simply not an option. Also it takes time to use it. At work it is no problem since it is my normal worktime, but wordpress is my free time, so i cant keep up with more and more to handle. It will also cost time even if i now how to use it the best way.
The block editor certainly has great added value for certain purposes, but clearly only for a sub-target group. Or maybe it is the main-taget group but i still need it as simple as possible but with the best way to do everything. I also can use just an html element for a whole site. So as i said earlier, if the classic editor element will display in an exact way like befor, it is no big deal just to set this element but it it should just scale like the old one in the draft layout.
Hope this helps somehow. Have a nice day!
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Today, one of the new teachers I work with asked me about blog sites for students to use in a writing class. In the past, I recommended WordPress enthusiastically. Now, because of the block editor, I can’t. It is sad because I couldn’t think of any good alternative either.
WordPress used to be so simple you could have a blog up and running in 5 minutes. Students could have the experience of writing for a wide audience and write something longer than a Facebook update or a tweet. But now, any teacher would have to spend several days teaching them how to use the block editor and some of them would still struggle. It is not a good use of class time to spend it teaching a tool.
And I would have to teach the teachers how to use it too.
Oh well.
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Here the same – I am no longer recommending WP to anyone anymore. Reason: I myself love smart, yet easy to use set ups. I would feel taken for a ride if anyone referred me to a site which drives you nuts to do the simplest things. Hence: don’t do unto others which you don’t want them to do unto you.
End of story.
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@guitarsophist
@mabelamber
Thank you both for your clearly expressed (and valid) comments. However, you can take a horse to the water and cannot make it drink. You can also talk to the wall, but …
WP have committed themselves before sounding out opinions, instead of the reverse. A pity this thread was not started before a final commitment was made. This thread is to find ways of making minor adjustments, but they will not renege on the project.
The highly complex block editor is undoubtedly a boon for many people who like complexity, but should have been an optional extra, not a replacement. Perhaps they are thinking about this, despite having rejected it.
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You may be missing the point.
I am not crying. I am not intending to take horses to the water etc.I am true to myself and I simply want WP to know that some people DO actually make their actions speak stronger than their words. That is simply my pledge to myself.
Comes the time when the Classic Editor is whisked away from under our pens, I shall have made myself comfortable elsewhere.
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Truthfully these things were discussed long ago, at WordPress.org. It’s a lot for the average person to follow, though.
As forums staff, we will not be able to just drop everything and go back, or keep the old editor permanently, as it will become more and more difficult for it to keep up with other aspects of WordPress. WordPress has changed a lot over the years and it will continue to change.
So the goal of this thread is to make the new editing experience as smooth as possible for you.
What I’m gathering:
Most of you want to simply write, and the blocks seem to be getting in the way of that.For BUGS (errors, or something stopped working), if you can please start a new thread, we will work on that separately.
For UX feedback (“I usually to do this but this particular feature keeps getting in the way”) use this thread and be as specific as possible so we can get some actionable feedback.
I totally understand that it feels good to vent and have others agree with you. But using this thread to vent makes it significantly harder for us to track the friction points we can fix. If you’ll kindly keep the venting here to ways staff can affect change, we’d appreciate that.
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