Forum Subscription Bug
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I have subscribed to this thread three times
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/photos-have-become-small-and-off-centered?replies=90
And three times I have had the subscription canceled (not by me) is this a new “feature” of the forum?
I have had to resubscribe to the same thread time after time – sort of annoying and makes it difficult to see answers and updates
The blog I need help with is: (visible only to logged in users)
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You know, I just noticed that as well. The last message I got was 11pm eastern daylight savings time.
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Thanks Mike and Tess. I’ve asked our Happiness Gardners for consultation since it’s definitely not a new feature :-)
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Thanks all. If you could do me a favor, if it occurs again (and hopefully it doesn’t), can you please let me know ASAP and report which thread(s) it occurred.
Our great systems folks are investigating as well and the sooner we know, the quicker we may be able to find the cause.
And sincerely, thanks for all of reports and help.
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Just a quick update that our systems team did discover an issue that “orphaned” some subscribers when someone else unsubscribed from a thread. They’re investing further.
Thanks for your patience.
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that “orphaned” some subscribers
Sort of the story of my life – glad your systems team has found that we are not imagining things
thanks for the update – good luck to the systems team
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Just a quick ping that our Happiness developers are still working on the fix to this issue and it isn’t lost. Just taking longer than I’d like :-/
I appreciate y’all’s patience. Cheers!
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And I was unsubscribed from this thread also
Must be my month for bug reports – :)
Just filed a bug report on a .ORG blog for part of their feed reader and formatting their feed display also
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Howdy all,
One of our wonderful Happiness Gardeners reported this bug as fixed now. Please do let me know if anything seems amiss.
Cheers!
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Thanks
Now if they would please undo the trashing of the Reader – the reader is now useless and I will not be using it much anymore – I guess on the good side I never got any traffic from it so I won’t miss the the new don’t send a visitor to the real blog and screw the blogger out of their page views feature
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Hi Mike,
What particular changes to the Reader are causing the most heartache for you? The team working on it are trying to iterate quickly and pushing updates every couple of weeks, so any input our users can provide is helpful to provide content to the usage information.
Thanks!
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I HATE the pop-up – it is now two clicks to read a blog if the base blog has feed to summery, then when I come back I still need to close the STUPID pop-up window – many more clicks for no added functions
The BIG FONTS are a waste of real estate,
I assume that the base blog is screwed out of their page views
I share a lot of the Posts – now it is much harder
The part that will have me not using the Reader much is the pop-up window – the old system where I click on the title and go to read the blog in a new tab on the browser was great – I read the Post – click on the address – paste the address and the first paragraph into the email and send it on to friends – then the base blog gets more page views –
the fonts suck but I guess I could take my glasses off and still read the head lines and I am nearly blind
The purpose of a reader to me is to be able to rapidly scan down a list of Posts and see which ones I want to read more of – note the use of “rapid” large fonts slow down the “rapid” part – I subscribe to around 100 blogs – many of which don’t Post much anymore – but some do many Posts a day – large fonts – much more page down – pop-up window and click again to read the whole article – again slows me down – by the time I click on something I am relatively sure I want to read what was written – so the extra clicks are a turn off – doubt that I will be using the reader much other than as a headline scanner –
The whole idea is to get people to read a blog and more exposure – Remember the great Reblog thing and how people hated it – at least there was some thought behind it – make it easier for someone to pass on a Post by putting 55 words and a picture on their site – we need to then go to the original Post to see the whole story – quicker than copy & paste and insured that a link back to the original article was present – so the Reblog probably built traffic a bit – made it much easier for someone to share a good article – and since there was no copy and paste involved much less chance a blogger would just do a whole copy and paste with no link back (the link requires a second copy so more chance of the link back being left out)
Bottom line for me – because of the junk design above – I will use the reader less and the page views of the blogs I follow will go into the dumper until it is fixed –
Some other bloggers have already reported 75% or more traffic drop for their site because they used to get much of their traffic from the reader
And don’t let some genius just say “add a page view even if it is fake to make the blogger happy” – bull*&^#$@ – I want people on my site – why you ask – simple really – I know that on average each visitor will click on two page views and from time to time up to 85 page views – with this great leap back – that is much less apt to happen – people are not on the real blog so they won’t look around – they don’t see the recent Posts and such
sorry very poorly thought out on the window
thanks
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PS – if they want to fix something – please fix the feed – I see two different sets of blogs when I look at the Android feed and the feed here – lots of stuff missing half a day almost was missing yesterday in the difference between the two versions –
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I’ll parse and pass your feedback to the team working on the Reader.
Regarding the Mobile Reader having “gaps”, that’s a known issue that Mobile is working on, where the cache on the individual device gets “stuck” sometimes and doesn’t call for posts in between the oldest recent post and the newest already-downloaded post.
We’re tracking bugs on the mobile apps publicly (since they’re individually open-source projects) and the report for the Android Reader is here for your reference.
Thanks for writing out all of those pain points.
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No fair taking the baseball bat out of the comments :)
I had some serious gaps here on the PC version of the Reader – as in I could see Posts on Android that I could not see here – sometimes I will see Posts on Android then come here to read or to share – I could not find some of the Posts here – I refreshed the screen several times
You be welcome for the feedback – good luck – these changes make no sense to me at all
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:-)
They’re tracking each version of the “gap” (PC, Android, and iOS); not clear that it is truly the same bug or something else. It is one of my personal gripes about the mobile app too. I’m running the beta version on my phone and tablet (both Android) and the issue has occurred a lot less, if at all, so I’m hopeful they’re getting closer on it.
After reviewing your feedback in more detail, I wanted to provide some commentary on it:
I assume that the base blog is screwed out of their page views
A view is triggered whenever the full post is displayed (as the “stats pixel” image is the last piece in the content), so a view with a referrer of the WordPress Reader is still being captured, much like it is in an RSS Reader.
If the blog is set to only show the Summary via Settings->Reading, that setting is respected in the Reader and the full post is not displayed. (They’re already working on how to put back the “XX more words” since taking it out wasn’t ideal based on the feedback so far).
The whole idea is to get people to read a blog and more exposure
Yes, but more than exposure, also engagement (likes, comments, and even our beloved reblogs).
There are two groups we’re trying to find the best way to please—Readers and Writers. On the Readers (the people, not the product per se), we’re trying to find a way to have a format that encourages engagement the most. Speed matters, according to the data, so an unified Reader (the product) can be built to be a fast way to see the content—much faster than the latency and load time used when opening up the actual site view off of the Reader.
The Writer must absolutely be respected as well. Not only help Readers engage with their content, but allow them to keep control (why the Feed Setting is respected). What’s the balance between the two?
FWIW, the team working on the Reader is incredibly data-respectful. By that, I mean, we’re tracking a large number of different variables (page views, views to the “original” website to the reader, likes, comments, new users who use the reader who made a comment on a blog within the first week of being a member, etc, etc, etc) and each two-week iteration ends with a deep look of the data. Did these changes actually improve anything or made them worse or no impact at all?
In short, thanks for the feedback and you’ll likely see more changes to the Reader in the coming weeks as they work towards finding the balance.
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I don’t comment on blogs much – doubt there is much your group can do to change that – same with likes
I get maybe one comment every 5,000 page views or so – don’t know what would change that – people visit my site to solve a problem or get some very specific info then they go back where ever they came from –
I have a great idea on how to get more traffic to individual blogs – will pitch it in one of these days – AND – it would be a simple thing to do that you could brag about
Also have the team keep in mind that a lot of the Posts are shared – I will grab the URL and the first paragraph and pass it on to friends to read – make that easy and people will share more – maybe copy the title – first paragraph and link to the clipboard (no picture most of the time since I delete them) so that can be pasted into an email –
Sort of an easy Reblog for email – no not an email link button since many times I put several Posts in the same email
thanx
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@auxclass and kraftbj
Just saying … there are other Reader feedback threads and in each of them I have directed bloggers to post into the main one > https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/reader-changed/page/2?replies=66 but also adding I won’t be posting into it.The concept of visitors actually visiting a post and reading it on the blog it was published on, thereby creating a page view stat is history, isn’t it?
There are more mobile users than those who own toothbrushes, so the replacement concept is setting up so mobile users can do everything in the Reader.
Publish posts in the Reader, comment in the Reader, answer comments in the Reader, click like buttons in the Reader, click reblog buttons in the Reader and so on … the next big surprise will probably be a live chat feature in the Reader.
Why click into any blog and see the nice theme and all that other jazz when you can do it all on your teeny tiny itsby bitsy pocket buddy?
The WordPress.com Reader is becoming the new black (blog). I mean why have a blog when everything can be done in the Reader except archiving the posts that never got any page view stats because read in the Reader.
Maybe I need more than 24 hours off the grid because I feel my blood pressure that tends to be in the low normal range rising when the word Reader is
waving like a red flag. ;)
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