hit by “mature” report, is it responsible for entries not showing up
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atlas, i agree with you on the religious guff. it’s not really my thing either but whilst the point of erotica being (or not being) sensitive was raised, i was thinking more from a younger readers aspect… religion wouldn’t be considered “mature”
as said in previous posts, arguing the toss here isn’t the best way of sorting anything… support would probably be the best bet.
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atlas0shrugged – your blog is not mature. Like has been said there is the odd bug – look after another post or 2?
Erotica might get a blog marked as mature. It’s a debate about what is / is not erotica, when it crosses to porn, who says it crosses etc.
Notifying bloggers that their blog has been marked as Mature is on our list of things to do. But we need to do it consistently for every blog so marked.
As for the Mature tag it means a blog here is getting the same attention that a regular blog hosted anywhere else. They have no tags, no search other than Google. So although a ‘hit’ may be felt it is not removing anything a blog elsewhere has. But every community has it’s rules and it is other bloggers who have asked for this as much as anyone.
Religion will not normally get a blog marked as mature unless it is extreme and promotes violence in it’s name. Robust views and discussions are fine.
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Um, just my 2¢ on this one, one ‘Mature’ blogger to another…
I don’t quite understand how you expected to avoid the ‘Mature’ label when you tag pictures of women (albeit beautiful women) in various states of undress under ‘Christianity’ and while using Darkness as your avatar (awesome flick, btw and one of my personal favs)?
Just curious, Mephistopheles…
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Also being hit with the mature label, the first day I was upset. But now I am happy and that it was the best thing ….. for me. At first I didn’t post lots of things because I didn’t want to be hit with the mature label. Now I post whatever I want! haha
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Me: “…if you want a larger audience you might want to cool it on the Satanic themes and naked chicks.”
Not Me: “wtf? what satanic themes are you speaking of…”
I’ve got nothing against the Dark Lord, from what I’ve read he seems like a guy you could have a good time playing Risk with. Be loud and proud dude, saying “what is satanic about that?” is disingenuous… your avatar is an artists representation of the son of Satan and your site is named after Satan. If you’re going to run with the Devil and put naked chicks on your blog I can’t see how you can be surprised someone would click the Mature button.
And if you want your own copyright claims to be taken seriously you may want to get rid of the photos copyrighted to other people. “Fair use” would probably extend to the historical harem type shots (although they should be tagged to the site where you took them from), but you’d have to reduce or crop the photo of Halle Berry’s torso and, unfortunately, all of those Barbie Benton photos… even Anton LaVey respected the copyright symbol.
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Mr. Mephistopheles, since you seem to have switched your blog to private in light of your problem with the ‘Mature’ label, I wanted to make the point (since I can’t respond to my original comment on your blog) that yes, I am a mature blogger and yes my blog is labeled as such in wordpress. That is the reason a link to my blog does not appear next to my comments.
If you feel the need to visit, please do: http://lizwired.com (since you asked). Just note that I don’t tag any of my work, ‘Christianity’. To use your own words from your reply to my comment on-blog: “Duh!”
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Zing!
I really do support a separate tag/category page system for Mature bloggers, but of course I have no idea how much work that is for WP.com. All I know is, in literature erotica is one of the fastest-growing categories and offering those writers a reputable home “with benefits” would be a plus as far as I can see.
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@raincoaster: You are so my hero. ♥ ♥ ♥ I, for one, would love to see a separate tag/category page for Mature bloggers of a literary sort.
“…things that make you go hmmmm…”
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Glad to hear it. But talk is cheap: Make a blog post about the issue and link to me! I’m all about the self-glorification, really.
As someone who is constantly on the edge and has been “Adulted” once or twice in her time, I have a lot of sympathy for people who are surprised by the change. If nothing else, an email or dashboard notification seems reasonable, and a separate global tag system would be optimal. After all, I’ve been told by staff that if you use the Sex or Porn tags, you won’t be in the system for the rest of your tags. Obviously that implies a two-tiered system exists already.
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That’s a great idea! I agree that some type of notification would be a nice feature, as well. Thanks again!
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The idea of a blog being categorized as “Mature/Adult” based on sexual content has a very retro feel to it… movies are ranked as NC-17 or X based on sex, but violence, blood, guts and gore gets a General or PG-13. It seems to me that blogs have an inherent safety design in that people who don’t like them never have to come back, plus they can blog all about the horrible sexual innuendo and visual imagery on their own blog and warn their friends all about their experience.
I don’t get how WordPress should be any different than the Web in general… if you don’t want to see smut don’t type smut into Google. If you’re tag surfing and you come across something tagged under Sex or Fetish or 20″ Dildo, don’t click on the link. If the idea is to protect children from sexual content, surprise, kids don’t read… plus the second largest industry on the web is porn (after social networking). Any kid coming to WordPress to find porn is either some kind of uber-geek or functionally retarded, because he’s the only kid in North America who can’t type “blowjob” into MSN Search.
Who are we supposed to be protecting if we click on the “Report As Mature” link?
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No, Google has its own smut filter, as does Yahoo and MSN and all the rest. This is one of the reason I am in the top ten for “Beaver Shots” in Google searches: they put the rest behind a filter.
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I’m number five on Google with “how to kill yourself with lithium”… but I’ve never given a tutorial.
If a kid types f*ck, two g*rls and a c*p, or dild* into Google they’re going to find what they’re looking for. If WordPress allowed smut published by WP bloggers to be found using Tags by tag surfing WP bloggers, I’m not sure what the big deal is…
This is a comment Baby Faced Tellyworth made on January 5, 2008 about porn on WordPress in response to a question about encountering porn on WP:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=19934&replies=14#post-152745“[Avoid it] Completely? Turn your computer off, burn it and bury the ashes. Unfortunately there’s just no way to entirely avoid material that you might find offensive.
“If you’re satisfied with mostly avoiding offensive material [on WP], you should be fine.” -
I’m not seeing where the disagreement is. Beaver shots that are PG13 are allowed; beaver shots that aren’t are in the Mature category. Straightforward enough, yes?
Because WP is an open platform it relies on user to report and refine issues, so yes, for a period of time NSFW sites might slip through.
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I don’t think there is a disagreement… I just don’t think the Mature links should be labelled as Mature or placed in their own special category at all… there was nothing remotely hardcore about 0mephistopheles0’s blog but even if there was I don’t see why, as long as there are no laws being broken, we can’t rely on the bloggers judgement to just turn the page…
If I type “porn” into Google I’m going to find it very fast… if I do a similar search in WordPress I’ll find discussions about “Survey on under-18s buying materials”.
WP feels like a gated community sometimes…
I searched for ‘0mephistopheles0’ on Google and this was the third site listed: http://wordpress.com/tag/erotic-pictures/ so I’m still not sure who we’re protecting by hitting the Mature button… if the problem is underage viewers searching WP blogs for smut then there should be an age verification system attached to the blogs already, because marking a blog as Mature only blocks it from the WP tag surfing areas and kids can still find “erotic pictures” on WP and access them through Google.
If the problem is a viewers sensibilities then just send them an email with Telly’s response…
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That’s hilarious… follow the WP “erotic-pictures” or “nude” tag and there’s free hardcore movies and photos on user.wp.com blogs. The Mature thing is useless… lets face it, people are really just “Reporting Blog As Insulting Because I’m Petty And Vindictive”.
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…scratch that. I forgot I was in the Forum for a minute and thought I was commenting on a post.
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No – it’s not useless.
This morning I have had at least 3 people use the ‘Report as Mature’ on their own blog. They have stated that they will be blogging adult material and do not want to unduly offend so could they please be marked as Mature. These people are responsible.
Those who you found – and who right now I will hunt – have chosen to not care.
If you want to report them, great.
If you do not, that’s fine too. But please do not berate us for trying to keep Mature blogs under control and the domain as a whole a decent place to blog. -
“I searched for ‘0mephistopheles0’ on Google”
The mature tag does not affect Google and quite how they get some results is a mystery. There have been posts to the forum about this issue.Search / Tags / News / Next blog
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feartheseeds, I report blogs when I think they fit the criterion of Mature. I don’t report blogs I just think are fucked in the head. Or, really, I’d report a lot more.
So, you’re saying that anyone who reports a blog that is Mature as Mature is “Petty And Vindictive?”
You are wrong.
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