I don't want a brand-new format

  • Unknown's avatar

    I just tried to do a post today. I’ve been working from IE since I’d had this blog. Now the “add new post” page won’t even load. So I went over to Chrome… but when I tried to publish, I keep getting an error saying it won’t publish and I can’t edit my own post. I’m seriously infuriated right now and I’m not getting any answers to my concerns on Twitter

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    @leeinblack It worked! Thanks. But my guess is it will be gone any day now.

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    No need to guess. Here’s a recent staff reply concerning the continued availability of the WP Admin Classic Editor:

    For now you can still access the original classic editor in WP-Admin, at yoursite.wordpress.com/wp-admin/edit.php, but that will also go away eventually, at which point the block editor will be the only available editor.

    Again, the Classic editor at WP Admin on our WPcom sites is there because WPcom installed the Classic Editor plugin for us. According to the WP.org site, that plugin will be officially maintained until December 31, 2021. We users do not know what will happen after that time and we do not know if it will be in use here until that time.

    So while you continue writing in WP Admin’s Classic editor, start dabbling in the Classic block, https://wordpress.com/support/wordpress-editor/blocks/classic-block/ or the full Block Editor https://wordpress.com/support/wordpress-editor/ in a test post or page. The more you use it, the easier it will become. FWIW – it took me a few tries and adjusting some settings, like pinning the block toolbar, to make the interface less frenetic, but I only use the Block Editor now.

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    I just wanna add my voice to the complaints. Change is fine and all, but what on earth possessed WordPress to take a perfectly functioning system and swap it out for something that’s worse in every respect? This block editor is difficult to navigate and to use. It takes me longer to do anything and that’s after I figured out where the even find all the features that it hid in various counter-intuitive nooks and crannies.

    Seriously, what was the thought process behind this? What software engineer sat down and decided that what people needed was a difficult, obstreperous interface to slow down their publishing? How did the company roll this out without testing or apparently even looking at it? Because there’s no way anyone who’s tried to use this thing thinks its an improvement over the old one.

    If WordPress wants to have this nightmare of a UI, fine, I guess, but it needs to be optional. Let us keep the ability to use the old one. Y’know, the one that works and isn’t a time-wasting nuisance to get any results from.

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    For now you can still access the original classic editor in WP-Admin, at yoursite.wordpress.com/wp-admin/edit.php, but that will also go away eventually, at which point the block editor will be the only available editor.

    Wow… Way to listen to your customer base… :-(

    Remember at the bottom of the help page it says “We care about your happiness!” ? I think it should be amended to read “unless it is about the new block editor. We think it looks cool and funky and that is all that matters to us, not what our users want or like or find easy to work with, so like it or lump it!”

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    I can’t save and publish my post. Please tell me the work around. I get either “You can’t edit this” or “you can’t publish this”. Very sad and irritating as I have blogged 300 posts in the old system which was great. Now this seems rather archaic. Thanks for helping me.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hi @drrmg6 – for help with a specific issue you’re encountering with the block editor, please open your own forum thread, which I see you’ve done. Thanks for your patience until someone can reply to your thread.

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    For what it’s worth, using the dashboard and then “add new post” does NOT get me to the classic editor.

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    Just adding to this – the new editor is a disaster, adds extra steps to my workflow, and visually unappealing. I can still get to the classic editor through the back door but depreciating it will be a cosmically bad idea.

    The classic editor is easy to use and suits my purposes. The new one buries functionality in features that I do not need nor want.

    I would ask WordPress to keep the classic editor indefinitely.

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    Perhaps if WordPress told us exactly why they made this change, it would soften the blow. I know a little about coding and development and interface design, etc. Understanding WP’s rationale for the block editor would go a long way toward my acceptance. They don’t “owe” me an explanation but I would like to understand their thinking. Yes, I can see there are some interesting new things (love the easy initial cap), but why weren’t they just added on or offered on the side instead of totally obscuring the basics? Please, can’t one of the designers who worked on this help us understand the rationale?

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    Even using the classic block with the expertly-hidden “edit as HTML” option, putting up a post that used to be done in about 20 minutes now takes at least 2 hours. Everything is monstrously complicated.

    The only way this makes any sense is if the typical poster these days is little more than a twitter, and their posts are only a sentence or two in length, requiring no formatting. If that’s what you want around here, you’re doing a great job in getting rid of everyone else.

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    Hello again, I’ve been using the block editor on my sites for the last 12 months exclusively and can assure you my posts are considerably longer than a sentence or two.

    I understand that people are upset to find that the way they’ve been doing things has changed and want to share that, but as @supernovia said in her earlier reply in this thread at https://wordpress.com/forums/topic/i-dont-want-a-brand-new-format/page/4/#post-3571484

    Setting some boundaries:

    1. We can’t get rid of blocks / revert everything. We hear you, but that doesn’t change what we can do.

    2. We can take “this specific thing bothers me” type feedback, and will note it when we can spot it. You can help by refraining from the type of comments we can’t do anything about. We can leave the thread open so long as the feedback is constructive.

    The backstory to this change has been shared here in the forums as well as in the WordPress.com blog post here https://wordpress.com/blog/2020/08/13/the-classic-editing-experience-is-moving-not-leaving/ If you are not subscribed, I highly recommend it.

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    @justjennifer Thanks. I’m subscribed now.

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    To the staff that showed the link to use classic block in the new editor.

    It did not work for me.
    In my post, often use an image.
    The images did not post as images, but as code; see below

    Please bring back the old editor

  • Unknown's avatar

    To the staff that showed the link to use classic block in the new editor.

    It did not work for me.
    In my post, often use an image.
    The images did not post as images, but as code; see below

  • @likesmoney I did not see your screenshot here but I’d like to take a closer look.
    To help me see exactly what you see, can you copy the URL (from your browser address bar) of the page you are on?

    I’d like to visit it directly to check if I can see what is going on, thanks.

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    In life as in Business time has a cost. The new Editor is time consuming while its predecessor was tight easy and fast. This something a big company should understand. Is software that takes more time an improvement?

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    I guess that’s an explanation. If there are future plans that require an expanded editor, okay, that makes some sense at least.

    It doesn’t account for the overall terrible design, though. I’d really love to hear why we’re moving from an efficient interface to an overly complicated, counter-intuitive and time-consuming one. Why not just expand or at least base the design on the proven system instead of going for something that is harder to use and doesn’t work as well?

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    Good news! I found a work-around. It may work for you too. First, start a post in the block editor. Just give it any old title and then a couple of words of text. Then save it. Don’t publish, just save. Then, from your dashboard, you should have the option of clicking on “All Posts.” Do that, and you’ll see your new thing at the top of the list, as a “draft.”

    Below the title of the thing you have the option of editing it, OR USING THE CLASSIC EDITOR, Click on that and then — there you are. You can now create your new post in the familiar old editor. Problem solved — until this option is removed.

  • A quick update here:

    You can now switch to the classic editor when writing/editing posts/pages in your site’s Dashboard: https://wordpress.com/support/dashboard/

    With that said, we do recommend the new editor though, and we have tips for transitioning from the classic editor to blocks https://wordpress.com/support/switching-from-the-classic-to-the-block-editor/ and FAQs: https://wordpress.com/support/replacing-the-older-wordpress-com-editor-with-the-wordpress-block-editor/#frequently-asked-questions

    And, if you really want to use something like the classic editor, we recommend sticking with the classic block: https://wordpress.com/support/wordpress-editor/blocks/classic-block/

    We also have some extensive documentation available at https://wordpress.com/support/wordpress-editor/

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