I Own A Bad-Ass Domain; Then I Bought A Bad-Ass Premium WordPress Package

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    Basically, the situation is this:

    I already owned the domain http://www.fishinabarrel.com.

    But the last time I managed a website was way back in 1999. It’s not as though I’m all that old, but I’ve definitely lost track of how organized (and how shady) the internet has become since 1999. I was seventeen back then. And I knew HTML quite well. But now everything has shifted over to CSS, and other languages that I do not understand, and pretty basic themes that I might have designed for myself way back when are now being sold for forty bucks a pop. And because I was so tired of dealing with nonsense, I decided to start a WordPress account, under the assumption that I’d be able to transfer it rather gracefully (and painlessly (and cost-effectively)) to my domain name at fishinabarrel.com.

    That, obviously, did not happen. I’ve since figured out how to install WordPress — my domain name (fishinabarrel.com) will display a fairly disgusting-looking layout. My layout at barrelofish.wordpress.com looks much nicer, but there doesn’t seem to be any way of transferring the latter to the former, if that makes any sense. Basically, I subscribed to a kind of wordpress premium account at barrelofish.wordpress.com, under the assumption that I’d be able to transfer it — but now, I have an account attached to fishinabarrel.com, and the WordPress installation won’t let me edit fonts, or even modify the theme.

    I hope this makes sense, and any sort of advice whatsoever would make me sniffle with joy, as I am thirty years old and already feeling geriatric, and I have been dicking around with this nonsense for about a month by now, too dudelike to ask for help, etc.

    Warm regards,
    – Me

    The blog I need help with is: (visible only to logged in users)

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    That bit at the end was appended by the fine presumptuous people at wordpress.com. The blog I need help with is fishinabarrel.com, or more precisely: how to transfer all the premium stuff that I spent a pretty penny on over to the account that WordPress seems not to want me to transfer it to — for pretty obvious financial reasons.

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    First, you need a clear understanding of the different varieties of WordPress:
    http://support.wordpress.com/com-vs-org/
    Themes available here on wp.com are adapted to work on this platform. The software for wp.org is based on the software here, but when you have your own host you are not part of a larger community (essentially subdomains). Manifest is a free theme here, but it is available to wp.org self-hosted sites.
    http://public-api.wordpress.com/rest/v1/themes/download/manifest.zip
    They are not the same, however, and whatever CSS you did to your site here will not transfer to the site where you have paid for hosting.

  • Unknown's avatar

    No worries. But is there a means of enabling font adjustments? I don’t plan on doing anything totally zany with my site, but the ability to modify fonts would be nice.

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    And thanks for your reply!

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    Basically, I’m running the Manifest theme on my domain — but I can’t change anything about it. Which kind of defeats the purpose of purchasing the theme in the first place.

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    That bit at the end was appended by the fine presumptuous people at wordpress.com.

    No one was being presumptuous: the fact is that because there are different WordPress platforms, there are different forums to support each.

    Many folks misunderstand the differences so our wp.COM forums elicit a choice of blogs so we volunteers know the original poster is in the forum where we can help.

    Note that in these forums most answers are very efficiently provided by us volunteers while staff steps in to assist with “behind the scene” fixes and help we volunteers have no access to.

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    fishinabarrel.com – is a WordPress.ORG install

    First thing you need to do is decide if you are going to use WordPress.ORG or here at WordPress.COM – two very different animals – what you do here for design changes are limited and will probably not transfer to your WordPress.ORG install (the content will, just not the looks)

    Read the links @Tess gave you above and let us know how you want to go forward – until you do that – changes and questions you have about how to do specific things will most likely be a waste of time on your part and our part both

    We can help you with what you can do here and some guidance if something can be done here or if you need to use a WordPress.ORG install

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    Okay. I’m a slowish typist so we are talking over each other.

    Do you want to have your site hosted here on WordPress.com? Or are you trying to move what you have on wp.com to a site you pay someone to host using wp.org software?

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    ~~Mike: g’evening!

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    Morning Morning Tess

    One of the problems the OP could be having is that some things here are an Upgrade, but with a WordPress.ORG install the ability to make the same changes are built in (CSS editing for instance)

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    Sorry, ttess! Just making a little quip. Trying to make things light, don’t you know.

    I’m not a total ignoramus, so I can kind of figure things out for myself. But my questions are thus:

    a) Whence the weird division between wordpress.com and wordpress.org, and how is that useful for the greater WordPress enterprise, and how does anyone figure out how to use this stuff? I used to be good at this sort of thing, and I’m fairly young-ish, which puts me ahead of most prospective WordPress users, and I still don’t get it 99% of the time. How do oldsters manage it? How do most people run websites with WordPress? And how do they figure out how to transfer them to domain names? Outside of paying the $129.00 transfer fee? It could be that I am, in fact, an ignoramus, but I can’t (for the life of me) figure out what is going on.

    b) If I have purchased a theme from one of the two WordPresses, why shouldn’t that be carried over to the other WordPress? Just as a matter of principle? I understand that this is a kind of broader institutional question, which probably isn’t worth getting into, and something over which neither of you have any control, but it’s really pretty maddening to set up WordPress on a domain and realize that you have the ability to change precisely nothing about your website’s appearance — which is where I stand at the moment. Is there a reason for that, or in any case, are there ways around it (e.g., by downloading various plugins) that could make the situation ultimately tolerable?

    Thanks again!

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    It isn’t a matter of principle it’s a matter of coding. A theme coded to run on WordPress.org software cannot be run on WordPress.com software and visa versa.

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    There is no FTP access and no plugin capability on free hosted WordPress.com blogs.
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/ftp-access/
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/plugins/

    There is no upgrade you can purchase that changes anything at all stated here http://support.wordpress.com/com-vs-org/ FTP access, and plugins are available only for VIP bloggers http://vip.wordpress.com/our-services/ or for those with WordPress.ORG installs.
    Please read > http://support.wordpress.com/com-vs-org/

    We do not provide support for WordPress.org software. WordPress.com and WordPress.org have different log-ins and different versions of themes with same names.
    http://support.wordpress.com/com-vs-org/

    If you don’t have a username account at WordPress.ORG click http://wordpress.org/support/ and register one on the top right hand corner of the page that opens, so you can post to the support forums there and receive advice from WordPress.ORG bloggers.

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    But why is that? Seems odd. Is there no way to transfer a proper WordPress.com purchased theme to a website running WordPress.org software?

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    And again, thanks for your help — I’m not trying to be snarky, but I’ve been working an absurd amount on setting up a website that won’t even be all that impressive, and I dug the WordPress (dot com?) layouts, but was fairly baffled when I couldn’t access them via my domain (which is apparently a WordPress (dot org?) joint).

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    Note: Premium Themes that are licensed for WordPress.com use only cannot be transferred to self-hosted WordPress.org sites. http://en.support.wordpress.com/themes/premium-themes/

    No. What you propose is a “no can do”. It’s time for you to accept what you have been told and act on it. This thread is tagged for closure.

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    Lets see

    a) WordPress.COM (here) is a host. About 65,000,000 blogs here – they also host for very heavy weights like CNN.com and other major news groups with their VIP program – but the VIP program STARTS at $ 30,000/year and you and your staff need to pass the interview process – before companies are allowed into the VIP program.

    WordPress.ORG is the keeper of the WordPress software – that software powers something like 20% of the new web sites in the world.

    There is a bit more connection than the simple above but that is the biggest. Many people work for both and for the parent company Automattic (sp) –

    With .ORG you can put your own ads on your site, use plugin’s and such – but more work for you –

    I used to have a .ORG site and moved here a few years ago to get out of the Webmaster stuff and software updates (which are done by the staff here)

    You can edit theme code on .ORG you can’t at .COM – .ORG you have more power, flexibility & freedom – but you break it you fix it – but the folks over at WordPress.ORG in the support forum are good also – you might try making friends over there with some of your questions about the .ORG things –

    You can map your domain name to your blog here for $ 13.–/year

  • Unknown's avatar

    a
    wp.com and wp.org and lots of other companies are part of Automattic
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automattic
    a-1
    how that works, well you can research it! I have not been much successful at business…
    a-2
    age has not very much to do with whether one person or another can learn new systems. I’m sure I’m older than you are. Also past experience, not practiced won’t be a direct link to learning new skills. The imaginary numbers I learned about in college have never been used (can they be now be for-sale as new?)
    a-3
    You don’t have to pay to transfer from wp.com to wp.org. You can do that yourself.

    But here is a capital A
    why do you need to have a self-hosted wp.org site???
    Are you selling something? Wanting to do some kind of affiliate marketing? Use extensive plugins?
    It comes down to, why don’t you just keep your registered name and use the site you have here on wp.com? Hosting is free and you have already paid for custom design. Just map your wp.com site to your registered name:
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/add-a-domain/
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/domains/all-about-domains/
    I don’t know which upgrade you purchased but that may (or may not) already be included in what you have already paid.

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    Thanks, y’all! Everything is squared away. I’ve become a complete geriatric w/r/t web design, but (ala Celine Dion), it’s all coming back to me now. Thanks for your assistance — it is very much appreciated, and I apologize for coming off as a complete twonk. At the time, I was in the advanced, blue screen-type stages of an internet-induced mental General Protection Fault.

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