Is this considered "duplicate content"?

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hi,
    I would like to have a website look for my blog with the flexibility of searching posts using categories and tags.

    So here’s what I do:
    – I write a post and publish it.
    – Then copy the post and paste it in a new page and create a page.
    – readers can use the categories in the side bar to access relevant posts.
    – or they use the menu on the front page to navigate to articles on pages.
    The posts and the pages are the same.

    So each article is in a post AND a page.

    Is that considered ‘duplicate content’ in SEO terms?

    Hoping I’ve explained this clearly.

    Thanks

    The blog I need help with is: (visible only to logged in users)

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    Ah. Thanks.

    Even if one is a version is ‘dynamic’ (ie blog post) and one is a ‘static’ (ie page?).

    And is this the sort of thing Google penalizes for?

  • Unknown's avatar

    If you want your content searchable by category you can create dynamic category pages as part of your menu. That way you’ll have the main blog page, and the category pages. It will look similar to what you are describing but without causing duplicate content problems.

    Here’s how you do it: http://en.support.wordpress.com/category-pages/

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    Pages and posts http://en.support.wordpress.com/post-vs-page/ are not the same but please read on.

    Among the most common misconceptions is that bloggers fail to understand is
    (1) there is only one page we can post to in any blog and
    (2) the static pages http://en.support.wordpress.com/pages/ they create do not automatically update.

    Only the dynamic pages like Categories, Tags and Archives created by the software when we publish a post we that we have assigned Categories and Tags to will update automatically update with new posts.

    By default the front page of the blog is the post that displays all posts in your blog. Though there is only one dynamic page in a blog for posts (not pages) http://en.support.wordpress.com/post-vs-page/ and we cannot post to more than that one page, we can create the appearance that we have posted to more than one page.

    We organize posts by assigning categories to them. You can create a custom menu and add the dynamic categories pages into the custom menu.
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/posts/categories/
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/menus/
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/menus/#adding-category-pages

    Menus

  • Unknown's avatar

    Thanks for the responses and links.

    Thanks for the comprehensive info Timethief.

    This is going to take a bit more looking into methinks – and maybe quite a bit of re-organizing too.

    And just to confirm, this is the sort of ‘duplication’ that Google penalizes?

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    Yes, it is. Do it via this link: wpbtips.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/posts-on-pages/ It just reiterates what TT pasted above, and if you do it that way there is no duplication.

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    Many thanks Timethief.

    I’ve seen that page before (and a few of the links you provided as well) but it’s mostly beyond me.

    Until recently I thought a Googlebot was something that probably looks like R2D2.

    A lot more homework to do.

    Again, many thanks.

  • Unknown's avatar

    It’s not beyond you.

    Setting up a menu is easy as pie, provided you know the differences between Posts and Pages, and the differences between static Pages, (which will never automatically update) and dynamic Categories pages which will automatically update when you publish Posts with Categories assigned to them.
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/post-vs-page/
    http://en.support.wordpress.com/category-pages/

    There are many common errors, misunderstandings and misconceptions when creating custom menus and there are some tweaks you can use to improve your custom menu as well.

    Custom menus

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    Really, just work through the steps one by one. It is FAR easier to do it the right way than to do it the way you have been attempting to do it. But you have to let go of your concept of how it should work. Follow the steps, see that it works, and the internalization of why it works will come to you later.

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    Thanks Raincoaster. I’ll be looking into these options.

    I’m hoping to be able to continue to access articles in different ways.

    Again thanks.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Yes you’re both right.

    I’ve probably developed a certain mindset and certainly a lot of misconceptions that I haven’t been aware of until you mentioned it.

    I’ll go over the info you provided and try see it in a different light.

    Again many thanks.

  • Unknown's avatar

    No worries. A lot of smart, ambitious people try this exactly the way you were doing it. It’s quite common for anyone who wants to control the way their site presents information, but the way we posted works much better, much easier and the front-end user doesn’t notice a difference.

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    HA! It just worked with the menus!
    Two hours of head scratching then 5 minutes of clicking and dragging!
    And the custom menus for indexing in the sidebar is so much neater!
    Many thanks, that opened a whole new way of doing things.

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    A day spent reorganizing the site using menus instead of creating pages. It works better using menus, avoids the potential duplication issue and the index in the left sidebar appears on all views (on pages it didn’t show up).

    On the downside, I liked the clean look of the pages, the reader is not distracted by the index and the tags/categories didn’t appear on the bottom of the article as it does with posts. Also, at least for now, it seems easier to organize pages than items in menus.

    All in all it’s an whole new way of doing things and has called for a total rethink. In fact it’s dismantling and rebuilding an entire mindset.

    It’s all taking a lot of thinking and I seem to get into mental twists trying to hold everything together in my head; constructing and testing information flow (input, structure, categorize, and access), trying to see it from a user’s perspective and anticipate a users understanding of the structure, trying to fit in future growth scenarios, weighing personal and esthetic preferences and plenty more.

    Sheesh. Who knew?

    Maybe I’m obsessing.

  • Unknown's avatar

    No, you’re just thinking organically in a different way than the WP engineers do. I think that way too. It takes practice to think in “wordpress”.

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    Remember, though, that regardless of what you or I, or the engineers, think is useful, the #1 way people navigate to and around blogs is Search. ALWAYS make Search available.

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    Thanks raincoaster.

    I understand now how I have to (try to) follow the logic used by the engineers and not my own.

    There aren’t many situations that impose such an indepth tweak in one’s thinking!

    All good.

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