Is "WordPress Editor" described in support page same as Gutenberg editor?
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Is the editor described in the WordPress Editor support page the same as the Gutenberg editor? If so, then
1. Why two different names for the same thing? It’s called Gutenberg at WP Admin dashboard > Screen Options > New Editor, but “WordPress Editor” in the support page.
2. Why have I found no support pages about the Gutenberg editor?The blog I need help with is: (visible only to logged in users)
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Also, referring to the older Calypso editor as the “Classic Editor” in the FAQ section of the WordPress Editor support page may be confusing to some, because for years the term “classic editor” has typically referred to the WP-Admin post and page editors.
I still use the WP-Admin post and page editor exclusively, and have no plans of changing to another.
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Hello @musicdoc1
1. Why two different names for the same thing? It’s called Gutenberg at WP Admin dashboard > Screen Options > New Editor, but “WordPress Editor” in the support page.
Because Gutenberg is a code name for the overall project on WordPress.org of which the editor is only phase one. Once WordPress 5.0 launches next week it will just be the default editor in WordPress, and will no longer be referred to as “Gutenberg”.
2. Why have I found no support pages about the Gutenberg editor?
The page you reference above is the support page about the Gutenberg editor. More pages detailing how specific blocks work are being worked on.
Also, referring to the older Calypso editor as the “Classic Editor” in the FAQ section of the WordPress Editor support page may be confusing to some,
We have never referred to “Calypso” in any of our documentation, as Calypso is also just the code name for the WordPress.com interface. The “Calypso editor” is simply the the WordPress.com editor, and once the block editor becomes the default on WordPress.com in both Calypso and WP-Admin, the current Calypso and WP-Admin editors will both be the classic editor, albeit two different versions of it.
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Thanks again brother. : )
We have never referred to “Calypso” in any of our documentation
I never said you had, and didn’t mean to imply that. With respect to WordPress.com, I guess Calypso refers more to the My Sites interface, so I didn’t clarify what I meant. Perhaps I should have called the editor referred to the blue beep-boop editor or something like that. The one that came in a few years ago.
I’m still using the editor that was only editor before the blue beep-boop editor came along and far prefer it. That’s the one that has, I think, most commonly been referred to as the “Classic Editor” by volunteers and others in these forums since beep boop entered the picture. Will that classic editor be gone soon?
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Correction: (without the dangling participle)
“That’s the one that has been, I think, most commonly referred to as the “Classic Editor” by volunteers and others in these forums since beep boop entered the picture.” -
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Perhaps I should have called the editor referred to the blue beep-boop editor or something like that.
We don’t speak of the beep beep boop 😜
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The “Calypso editor” is simply the the WordPress.com editor, and once the block editor becomes the default on WordPress.com in both Calypso and WP-Admin, the current Calypso and WP-Admin editors will both be the classic editor, albeit two different versions of it.
Hi, folks.
Just to clarify. There are a couple of well-known differences between the WP-Admin editor and the “Calypso editor”.
When the block editor becomes the default on WordPress.com, will we have three possible editors? Or will we just have the WP-Admi editor & the new block editor? -
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The block editor will be available in both WP-Admin and Calypso. But if you opt to use the classic editor, you will see the current WP-Admin and Calypso editors depending on which interface you use.
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@galois and @kokkieh,
Thanks for clearing things up guys.When the block editor becomes the default on WordPress.com, will we have three possible editors?
That’s what I was getting at when I asked,
I’m still using the editor that was [the] only editor before the blue beep-boop editor came along and far prefer it. That’s the one that has, I think, most commonly been referred to as the “Classic Editor” by volunteers and others in these forums since beep boop entered the picture. Will that classic editor be gone soon?
Sometimes I’m too long-winded for my own good. I just noticed today what I’ve referred to as the classic editor, the WP Admin editor, is no longer getting automatically redirected to the unmentionable blue bb editor. I’d been redirecting it back to the classic for a couple of years with the script provided at gihub by WordPress.com member @tpenguinltg, here: Going back to the classic editor. Nice title. I’ve no idea when the old classic stopped being redirected to the baby blue beast editor.
Again, that’s the editor that has been most often referred to in the forums as the “classic editor” in the months and years after the baby blue wonder hit the scene. So, as I’ve explained above a couple of times, the WordPress Editor support page confuses the situation by referring to what we’re, in this thread, calling the Calypso editor as the “Classic Editor.”
I agree with @galois that it was unclear whether there would be three editors available in the future: 1. classic editor, 2. Calypso, 3. Gutenberg (WordPress), until @kokkieh, said:
The block editor will be available in both WP-Admin and Calypso. But if you opt to use the classic editor, you will see the current WP-Admin and Calypso editors depending on which interface you use.
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Again, that’s the editor
I mean @tpenguinltg’s “old classic.” I confused things by inserting a sentence before this phrase.
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The block editor will be available in both WP-Admin and Calypso. But if you opt to use the classic editor, you will see the current WP-Admin and Calypso editors depending on which interface you use.
That seems like having the mind-blowing option to choose between three possible editors to me. How many editors does WordPress.com think we need? The support pages will need some careful thought to explain which editor is being talked about if the “new editor” now refers to what we’re not supposed to call “Gutenberg” and the “classic editor” is now two completely different editors. My brain hurts.
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Agreed, brother. It’s about as confused…and the mess will be getting bigger.
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And I stand corrected, because it’s still three editors by my count after @kokkieh’s explanation. But that the easy part. The hard part will be explaining the difference between these three to members in the forums, members with the whole range of experience levels.
Why not adopt a numerical system for editor models and versions, as is done with operating systems, software etc. Example:
1. old classic (WP-Admin) editor — 1, 1a, etc.
2. Calypso editor — 2, 2a…
3. Gutenberg editor — 3, 3a… -
or
1. old classic (WP-Admin) editor — 1.1, 1.2, 1.3a, 1.3b etc.
2. Calypso editor — 2.1, 2.1a, 2.1b…
3. Gutenberg editor — 3.1, 3.2, 3.3… -
I don’t mean to suggest that there will be multiple versions of each of the three editors available. Updates have, for at least the last 10 years or so, been made to the editors at WordPress.com without necessarily a corresponding change in how the editor is identified. So it could be just models 1, 2, and 3, with no version or update identified.
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Hi there,
I think that a versioning or number-based system would complicate things. By adopting the new editor (Gutenberg) to both WP-Admin and the WordPress.com interface (Calypso) we’re trying to simplify things. So, whatever interface you choose to work with you’ll have exactly the same editor.
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Thanks. I don’t personally think that keeping track of three different editors is overly complicated, but as this thread demonstrates the same term may be applied to multiple different editors. Multiple names for each of the three editors, with sometimes the same name being applied variously to different editors, means that interpersonal communication regarding the editors may often result in confusion.
Various names that have been used to identify each of the three editors:
1. WP-Admin editor: aka
- classic editor
- old editor
- old dashboard editor
2. Calypso editor, aka:
- beep beep boop (early version)
- new editor (c. 2015-2018)
- My Sites editor
- new dashboard editor
- new interface editor
- Classic Editor (in the WordPress Editor support page)
- WordPress.com Editor (by @kokkieh above, who said,
The “Calypso editor” is simply the the WordPress.com editor, and once the block editor becomes the default on WordPress.com in both Calypso and WP-Admin, the current Calypso and WP-Admin editors will both be the classic editor, albeit two different versions of it.
3. Gutenberg, aka:
- new editor
- WordPress Editor (WordPress Editor support page)
- WordPress.com editor (@kokkieh, above)
- classic editor (@kokkieh, above)
With the introduction and acceptance of the Gutenberg editor, the editor referred to as Calypso editor in my list above would now need the word “old” or “classic” added to most of its other names in order to differentiate it from the newer (Gutenberg) editor. So that now we’ll have such names as the following for that editor
- old (or classic) new editor
- old (or classic) My Sites editor
- old (or classic) new dashboard editor
- old (or classic) new interface editor
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