layout block

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hello, for about as long as the new block editor has been with us I have made good use of the layout grid block.

    Spend some frustrating time today trying to set it, but couldn’t find it. I was thinking maybe it had been modified at as part of the game of where has the developer moved xxx to – as in the word count~

    I gave up and went to edit another post, scrolled down and found this’

    ‘Your site doesn’t include support for the ‘jetpack/layout-grid’ block. You can leave this block intact, convert its content to a Custom HTML block, or remove it entirely.
    Keep as HTML’

    Uhhm, can someone explain please?
    it’s been supported for what, 4 years or more, why another change?

    It’s all starting to see rather petty and silly, like the inane comment when one opens a new post:
    Have you seen a wild animal?’
    Or ‘ did you change your socks today?’ or ‘what are your favourite physical activities or exercises?’ (that’s a bit of a kinky question isn’t it?)

    It’s starting to sound like play school.
    Thx

    WP.com: Yes
    Jetpack: No
    Correct account: Yes

    The blog I need help with is: (visible only to logged in users)

  • Unknown's avatar

    This is a little strange, the above was a message I tried to send and failed about 2 weeks ago. When I tried to ask another a few moments ago, that message auto sent? It must have been stored in your system?

    Still on the topic of layout block though, I have noticed now when I embed posts into the layout they are truncated. This never used to happen. I am using the same old computer, same old Linux, same old Chromium browser as I have for 7 years so can someone tell me please what has changed?

    What do I need to do to get this to look half way decent – coz it looks like cr,,, you know what now.

    thx

  • Hi there,

    Still on the topic of layout block though, I have noticed now when I embed posts into the layout they are truncated. This never used to happen. I am using the same old computer, same old Linux, same old Chromium browser as I have for 7 years so can someone tell me please what has changed?

    Can you share a link to a page or post where this issue is happening so we can take a closer look and see what is happening? Also where are you getting your embed content from? Are you pasting from a Word doc, email, or some other text editor? Or is it an issue with an “embed code” you’ve been given by another provider?

    Thanks for the additional info!

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hello @staff-totoro, thanks for a quick reply, especially considering it is a festive holiday period.

    Yeah, you’re right, I’ve re read my comment and I could have been more clear. My fault. I guess I was confused when the old, dead message popped up.

    So, to clarify:

    • Also where are you getting your embed content from?
      Embed content is derived from my WP Dashboard for Aim2d etc > posts > toggle menu > copy link. IE; it’s my own past posts composed via WP.
    • Are you pasting from a Word doc, email, or some other text editor?
      Nope, see above
    • Or is it an issue with an “embed code” you’ve been given by another provider?
      Nope, see above, although in the second link sample, I did also try to embed from a client who uses WP.org expecting the finished publicly viewed effect to be the same as in my block editor. In others words, in edit I can see a “sample” of their site, but live it just shows a link.

    Maybe this is more illuminating, and again, sorry for lack of original clarity.

    Hope you had a very Merry Mariahcarymas or what ever you celebrate at the point of time.
    Bic

  • I had a look at both of the blog posts you linked above and I just want to make sure we’re seeing the same thing – this screenshot below shows how the three-column layout of embedded posts appears for me:

    Is this how it looks for you at the moment?

    As it is, the layout grid block should work for you! At least in the two posts you linked, it appears to be behaving as expected.

    You also mentioned the prompts that you’re seeing when you open the editor – those can be switched off should you like; there’s information about that here:
    https://en.support.wordpress.com/writing-prompts/

  • Unknown's avatar

    Good morning @staff-95percentghost, short answer – nope!

    My “world” view is still truncated, same as the images I referenced for you.
    However, if the rest of the world sees it as it should, then I no longer care~
    Re that prompt, unless WP is now targeting 8 year olds, I still do not see the point in them. Change for change sake in design is not my style.
    Out of curiosity, how does the clients embed of a WP.org site look to you? (Plusvet)

    Thanks very much.
    Bic

  • I can confirm I see the images the same way as the screenshot above. I’m curious to know what do you see on your end – feel free to share a screenshot if you’d like.

    Out of curiosity, how does the clients embed of a WP.org site look to you? (Plusvet)

    A website wouldn’t just embed, so what I see is a link with a description, like so:

  • Unknown's avatar

    thx @staff-mckluskey, seems odds against me are growing!

    But to answer your question, I STILL see the less than perfect view, same as the images showing in my media files. I don’t suppose it makes a lot of difference these days, but what O/S, browser etc are you and @staff-95percentghost using?

    The embed website though intrigues me, as a few years back I read that using the new editor, several others in the same “group” as WordPress could share their embed content. Much the same way as I can embed mine, or supposedly share that from another WP.com poster. My understanding was WP.org content could be embedded the same way.

    I don’t make much use of this feature to be frank as I am writing for a narrow audience – our clients potential clients – and they maintain their own web sites – non WordPress.
    But I recall I did use it once and the result was impressive.

    Instead of just the link and description you see now, it embedded a “screen” cut” ( for want of a better term) of the site. To drag the debate out a bit longer, I see something similar in my editor when I embed the PlusVet link. Now, as they use a vid, that is what I see, but can only include a still shot here. Hope some of this makes sense.

    I stress, this is my editor view, the real world view is the same as yours (boring) except of course, you see my own embed posts cleaner than I do.

  • Hey there,

    This sure is interesting. I’m seeing the same as @staff-mckluskey and @staff-95percentghost in chrome, but I can replicate this on Safari.

    There is a currently a known bug, where there’s a similar discrepancy in appearance, when the embed block is embedding content from the same site. Again, localised to Safari.

    Do you know if this happens when inserting a link from another site?

    Many thanks.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hmm, I know this is a long and messy post, so let’s just clarify my set up again.

    I’m running LINUX via CHROMIUM browser ( not chrome) and i can replicate it on YANDEX ( which is a chromium fork anyway)

    Do you know if this happens when inserting a link from another site?

    If you scroll back up to the rooster, my answer is going to be yes because I was expecting this to embed as I see it in edit, but it doesn’t.
    However, according to @staff-mckluskey my expectation is incorrect so maybe you can raise that point with them?
    Having said that, I am 99% sure that when I embed a link to JING DAILY it displayed correctly. I’m a bit busy right now, will try the JING link again later and let you know, probably next year now.

    This sounds like the ghost of IE6 in the bad old days of HTML / CSS when border box needed another half page of code because MS developers saw margin and padding differently to every other browser at the time.

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  • Hello there,

    Having said that, I am 99% sure that when I embed a link to JING DAILY it displayed correctly. I’m a bit busy right now, will try the JING link again later and let you know, probably next year now.

    Got it, we’ll be interested to see what happens there.

    A happy new year to you. :)

  • Unknown's avatar

    Thx @aleone89 and a belated happy New Year to you

    Please DO read this as it explains why you can not replicate what I am showing here.

    Do you know if this happens when inserting a link from another site?

    To answer this I tried to embed links from other sites into a LIVE post.
    This means I could quickly test, but, as it is LIVE and I do NOT want those links public, you can not see it. You will have to make do with screen shots.
    Of course, you can try it yourself using the links i used to see what effect it has.
    In fact, I hope you do as i would be curious.

    1/ I embedded JING DAILY, a publication that I am 99,98% sure has displayed previously. I also believe it shares the same what ever group as WP which means is can be embedded. (same logic I used with Plus Vet – a WP post)

    The first image shows JING DAILY as it embeds in my EDITOR, the second shot is what i saw when I check live. As you will see, it is a mirror of PlusVet.com

    These 2 images reflect the situation when i embed a site I KNOW will not or can not be embedded: China Daily. The first, editor view shows the link in the embed block BEFORE pressing embed. The second, still editor mode, clearly shows the link, as a — errr link AFTER pressing embed- – not a site previews as in JING DAILY and PLUSVET. This is exactly what I expected. Image 3 shows my live view, again, just a link as expected. NOTE that in PLUS VET and JING DAILY the link is replaced by the word HOME. To me this indicates EMBED is functioning as i expect in editor mode but not in live or public view.

    At this point, for me this has become purely academic, as long as for most my site appears normal I don’t really have time to spend taking it to bits and testing. If EMBED has changed since my understanding, so be it. Move on. It’s a pity, but recently WP.com has had a number of changes which do not seem to add any advanced functionality or make user life easier – quite the contrary.

    Having said that, if someone can make JING DAILY or PLUS VET embed work I would be keen to hear back.

    Cheers

  • Hi there, you have both of those sites embedded on your site for us to take a look at? I’m not able to make it out from your screenshots but it will help if we can examine the embeds directly, thanks

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hello.
    No.
    Thx.

    As explained in the Please Read, i did it as a quick courtesy to answer the previous respondent. I don’t have time to go back over creating new unique demo posts. I will TRY to incorporate a JING DAILY embed in next Tuesday’s article. Maybe. Perhaps.
    I tend to spend min time trying to find a fix, if not, dump it and move on.

    bic

  • Hello there,

    This means I could quickly test, but, as it is LIVE and I do NOT want those links public, you can not see it. You will have to make do with screen shots.

    Screenshots are useful for explaining things but, we’d need to examine the post under the hood in order to troubleshoot it.

    If you have a link to the post seen in those screenshots, that would be most helpful. Outside of that, we can wait until next Tuesday whereby we can examine the post that uses that embed.

    Many thanks.

  • Unknown's avatar

    @aleone89 – thx, understood.

    At the time of previous response i was multi tasking, minimum thinking, I forgot I had previously included a link to a post that featured the WP.org site – Plusvet. Is that helpful? Look for the red rooster.

    As for Tuesday, I’m not a blogger, I don’t actually plan perse but rather react to what ever breaking news is at the eve of publishing. That means I have just a few hours the day before to research, analyse and write something semi intelligent so it is live next morning. Also explains my sour mood when WP suddenly doesn’t perform as expected or something has been shifted from where its been for years~ (sodding word count!)

    In short, I have no idea what I will post Tuesday but will try to feature JING DAILY sometimes if it helps – and the red rooster isn’t enough.

    Thx for your time, if anyone else wants to jump in with similar experience, great, but I am prepared to let it go at this point and just swear when embed messes me about.

    bic

  • Hello there,

    At the time of previous response i was multi tasking, minimum thinking, I forgot I had previously included a link to a post that featured the WP.org site – Plusvet. Is that helpful? Look for the red rooster.

    That looks like this post: https://aim2dchinabusinessnews.wordpress.com/2022/12/13/china-new-normal-2022/

    Interestingly, that doesn’t help as it renders like this.

    Are you seeing the same when viewing the site?

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hello, either I or this post is getting a bit long in the tooth because I am now confused. What do you mean -“it doesn’t help?”

    It is a direct link, not an image, so lets cut to the chase, what do you want / need that does help? Exactly.
    Let’s talk meaningful specifics, rather than wandering generalities.

    Cheers

    Bic

  • Hello Bic,

    Ok, so the post containing the Plusvet embed is not helpful.

    Please let us know when you post content and a link from JING DAILY is embedded.

    Many thanks.

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