Left-to-right (English) text in Right-to-left (Hebrew) blogs is mis-directed
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I run a blog in Hebrew and occasionally include quotes in English. In order to have those quotes shown in the right direction I include an html paragraph order: <p dir=”ltr”>
Some days ago, WP apparently introduced changes to the editor. Among other things, this has removed those direction tags so now there are simple <p> tags instead. As a result, the English text is now bungled. Confusingly, this happened in some posts but not all of them.
For example, here the LTR text is mis-directed: https://amirlicht.wordpress.com/2022/07/18/234/
But here, the LTR text is in the right direction: https://amirlicht.wordpress.com/2022/07/04/233/
This is unacceptable. Please restore those tags or make LTR text directed properly and consistently in all posts.
The problem described here should be relevant to all blogs in right-to-left languages: Hebrew, Arabic, Urdu, etc.
Since WP keeps developing the editor, I repeat an old request: to have direction buttons as in every bilingual editor, asap, so those manual html tags won’t be needed.
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Hey @alicht2014, thank you for that feedback. I agree; we should have a text direction in every text-based block. I’ve added your request.
I noticed this one doesn’t have the dir=LTR in it:
There’s an earlier version that had it in place, so I’m wondering — if you add it back in, does it stay? Or, is it being stripped when you edit the post? Please let us know.
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Hi Supernovia,
I inserted a dir=LTR tag in this post now. I got a notice “This block contains unexpected or invalid content. Attempt Block Recovery”. I updated the post anyway and it looks OK now.
That’s exactly the point: I have manually inserted a dir=LTR tag in all of my posts that included quotes in English. Now, after the recent changes in the editor, they have disappeared. I need them back :)
Oddly, the sweeping removal of those tags did not affect all posts in the same way. In the other example above – https://amirlicht.wordpress.com/2022/07/04/233/ – I had also inserted dir=LTR tags, they were removed by WP, but the English quotes are still in the right direction – that is, left-to-right direction – even though there is a regular p tag there now.
Please fix this problem.
Thanks
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OK, yeah I’m guessing the problem is with new posts or new edits, rather than existing content. Ignoring the warning is a good strategy for now.
We’ve shared this with our developers so they can take a closer look.
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Hi,
I wish it were so simple. The problem is that the change you did in the editor has corrupted numerous existing posts in my blog – those that have English quotes. People search and retrieve old posts for research so I need to have old posts fixed as well. Since WP has caused this problem, please fix it asap.
Please advise.
Thanks.
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Thanks for clarifying. Our team is investigating the issue now, and while I do not have an estimate for when this will be addressed, I can update you as soon as we know more.
In the meantime, can you point out a few instances of older posts that are displaying English text in the incorrect direction (RTL) instead of the correct LTR direction?
I spot-checked about 15 or so of your older posts (such as this one) and for me English text is in the correct direction. It will help if we can inspect a few where the direction is incorrect so we can determine why some have lost the correct setting, and some have not.
Thanks for the additional info!
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Hi,
Thanks so much for looking into this issue. It appears that you are right. I went back over all posts since late 2019. Only in two of them the LTR direction got goofed and I fixed those by inserting <p dir=”ltr”>. Here they are:
Incorrect LTR direction that I fixed manually now by inserting <p dir=”ltr”>אירקלי בישל דייסה – אימתי נושא משרה יידרש לגלות את תוכן הטלפון הנייד שלו?
In all the rest, the LTR direction was correct. The list follows.
Correct LTR directionאילון, תעשה לי מחיר! – כיצד לאיין הפרת חובת אמון בחברה בהגינות מלאה
דברי בלע – חילוט, זכויות קנייניות ועשיית עושר בעקבות הפרת חובת אמון
הרועץ המשפטי – אחריות עורך דין המעורב בהפרת חובת אמון של הדירקטוריון
הגינות מלאה זה לחלשים – כאשר דירקטור נגוע פועל משיקולים זרים
כי טוב פעמיים – הסכם מייסדים כחוזה לטובת אדם שלישי ונזק משתקף
מצוי ומשגיח – אישור פשרה ביחס לטענת מחדל בפיקוח והפרת חובת ההשגחה
תומך תמימים – אשם תורם ואי הקטנת הנזק בתביעת פיצויים נגד אמונאי
הנסיכה שעמדה מנגד – אחריות נושא משרה להפרת חובת אמון של נושא משרה אחר
צרפתי, אנגלי וישראלי – האם נושא משרה שלא נמצא ראוי לשכר ראוי לשכר ראוי
שירים עד כאן – מתי לחדול מניהול עסקי החברה ולהמנע מצימצום חדלות הפירעון?
אין עבודה לזולתו – אימתי בעל מניות יהיה אמונאי החב חובת אמון
כפל מבצעים – תביעת נושה נגד נושא משרה, נזק משתקף וחלוקה אסורה
גילוי וכיסוי בלשון – חובות הגילוי של דירקטור, שותף ואמונאים אחרים
חרמי וקונמי – התחשבות בשיקולים חברתיים ובמדיניות ממשלתית על ידי משקיע מוסדי
The following posts are also OK. They were edited using the older editor.שניים סינים – תביעת שלילה בגין חריגה מהרשאה וטענת אי-ניקיון כפיים
עובדים נאמנים – "חובות אמון ונאמנות" וחיובי אמונאות של עובדים בכירים
תום לב זה לחלשים – האם יש חובות אמונאות במשא ומתן לקראת הסכם עורך דין-לקוח?
I didn’t go further back in time into older posts. There might be wrongly-directed English paragraphs there.
So, perhaps it was a coincidence that I tackled the bad posts [someone asked a question so I looked into them]. The basic issue remains also not as badly as I feared.
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Thank you! I filed an issue for the broken-block messaging, and I’ve also nudged an issue about just adding directional settings to blocks in the first place. I can’t say when that would be implemented, but know it’s on folks’ minds. Cheers!
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supernovia…
That’s what happens when you type in the smartphone without your eyeglasses…
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