Lost the plot with this new block editing.
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Wordpress,
I am sorry to say it but you seem to have completely lost the plot with this new editing format that’s been forced on us.
I can’t even begin to describe the things wrong with it.
The beautiful simplicity and open clarity of the classic editor is gone, and all that’s left is a whole lot of getting stuck points and having to compromise to get things done.
I feel as if I’ve lost control!!
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What’s going on?
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We have tips for transitioning from the classic editor to blocks https://wordpress.com/support/switching-from-the-classic-to-the-block-editor/ and FAQs: https://wordpress.com/support/replacing-the-older-wordpress-com-editor-with-the-wordpress-block-editor/#frequently-asked-questions
And, if you really want to use something like the classic editor, we recommend sticking with the classic block: https://wordpress.com/support/wordpress-editor/blocks/classic-block/
We also have some extensive documentation available at https://wordpress.com/support/wordpress-editor/
If you have any specific feedback on the new editor, we’re always looking for ways to improve it, so please let us know!
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Why is classic editor being retired? Why is WordPress ignoring everyone who is asking for classic editor to come back? Why are the poor unpaid voluntary mods having to field this constantly recurring query?
Why should we be forced to learn this new and unsuitable product when there was nothing wrong with the old one?
Does the new one use less bandwidth or server space? Is it cheaper for WordPress to run? Are any savings being passed on to the paying users? If I was specific (and if you were paying me to invest the time to be specific), there would be several dozen separate specific issues with the new block editor and I’d probably get accused of spamming the forums.
Classic block editor does not work very well. It is unstable and difficult to format, plus you do not see what you get (wysiwyg).
Block editor is horrible. WordPress are not paying me to beta test their product so please don’t ask me for further details – there are so many it would take too long. However, I am paying WordPress to provide me with a product that I can work with.
Dear WordPress: We do not all want block editor. Thank you.
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Hey Dianne, While it’s OK to express your opinion concerning the Block Editor, you’ve already done so in a few forum threads. Going back through previous forum threads and copy/pasting the same response doesn’t really add anything new to the discussion.
Please keep in mind that your forum posts are subject to our Best Practices & Community Standards https://wordpress.com/forums/topic/best-practices-community-standards/ as well as to the WordPress.com Terms of Service https://wordpress.com/tos/ Thanks.
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Hi Just Jennier, thanks for your reply and for taking the time.
I’m only copy and pasting because some of the responses from staff and mods are also just copy and pasting. Instead of addressing this issue, it’s as though they’re sticking their fingers in their ears and singing la-la-la.
I’ve tried to get an answer to this very simple question and so far no one is responding. So it’s all right, I’ll write to the CEO.
Thanks again. Going back to the naughty step now. ;-)
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Dear justjennifer,
For WordPress’ own reputation I’d be careful about quoting your Best Practices & Community Standards and Terms of Service.
While they probably have some good clauses it’s a guarantee that they have some very bad ones, like all legislation, which is easily proven to be fraud/ null and void ab initio https://defending-gibraltar.net/t/theres-only-one-law-the-rest-is-forbidden-legislation/561
Wordpress is a very fine company, but if it needs to throw the book it means there’s something wrong.
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Hi again @dianewordsworth Given that the Block Editor is now fully integrated in the core WordPress software, and has been for more than 2 years, it’s possible but unlikely that it will be removed in favor of the Classic Editor. The Classic Editor here on WordPress.com is being provided to us by WordPress.com through the Classic Editor plugin. How long that plugin will be available to us is a question that I do not have an answer for. Good luck with your efforts.
Hi @phithx9
For WordPress’ own reputation I’d be careful about quoting your Best Practices & Community Standards and Terms of Service.
If a user needs to be reminded of them, then, as a forum mod, I will. Thankfully in recent history (or for the near 5 years I’ve been a mod) it’s been rarely necessary to suspend someone from posting in the forums.
Cheers
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I see what you mean Diane by, “Instead of addressing this issue, it’s as though they’re sticking their fingers in their ears”.
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Hey Jennifer, I don’t think the block editor should be removed, as I’m sure that a lot of time and money has been invested in it and there must be some people who actually like it. But nor do I think that the classic editor should be removed either, as a lot of us have already invested years of time in learning how to use that one.
I think we should have the choice, especially as some of us are paying for the privilege. The plugin, by the way, is only available to business users and above, so already there are three levels of customer who are being discriminated against on that point alone.
But thank you for your good wishes. I have already taken it further.
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@dianewordsworth :-).
And Jennifer, Know you’re just doing you’re job; no doubt following the dictates from above. Been there … painful it was.
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The plugin, by the way, is only available to business users and above,
The Classic Editor plugin is currently available to everyone on WordPress.com and is being provided to us by WordPress.com. The only way to reach it, however, is through the WP Admin interface (as it was before the more recent change to unified navigation).
https://wordpress.com/support/classic-editor-guide/#how-to-access-the-classic-editor where it says:
How to Access the Classic Editor
If you have a free site or a site on the Personal or Premium plan, you can access the Classic Editor by enabling WP Admin dashboard pages. Visit your account settings and look for ‘Dashboard Appearance’. Turn on the option for “Show advanced dashboard pages” and click Save Interface Settings.
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If you have a Business or eCommerce plan with plugins installed, you can access the Classic Editor by activating the Classic Editor plugin at My Site → Plugins → Installed Plugins. -
I have accepted that change and “improvements” are a constant in IT and everyone needs to go with the flow and make the best of things. New themes are designed to take advantage of the Block editor and at some point all older themes will be retired or won’t even function correctly here. When WordPress.com decide the percentage of people using the Classic editor is small enough I’m sure they will turn it off for good.
says:There are exciting new features in the pipeline that require the new WordPress editor. It’s not technically possible to retrofit them into the older, Classic editor
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Hey, Jennifer, thank you so much for that link. I keep getting a screen with different coloured themes on, so I got lost quite frequently. But now I see that I already had the classic editor activated, and that’s probably why I’ve been able to avoid having to use the block editor. I also have to hold my hands up here and admit that I can even add a new post by using a drop down arrow and choosing to “add new … block editor” or “add new … classic editor”, but I get that here:
https://your-site-name.wordpress.com/wp-admin/edit.php
(The premium help guys have confirmed it’s okay to use this url.) (In fact, they gave it to me.)
However, it does clearly say (even in your blocked quote): “If you have a Business or eCommerce plan with plugins installed, you can access the Classic Editor by activating the Classic Editor plugin at My Site → Plugins → Installed Plugins.” and “If you have a free site or a site on the Personal or Premium plan, you can access the Classic Editor by enabling WP Admin dashboard pages.”
So the plugin *is* only available to the top two plans. For the others, there are simply a few more hoops to jump through.
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Hey Diane – Glad you found your way around.
WordPress.com Business and eCommerce sites with plugins or custom themes installed need to activate it on their sites separately if they want to use it. It’s because those users’ sites are set up apart from the rest of us. This link explains why that is: https://wordpress.com/support/code/#business-ecommerce-plan
For the rest of us, the Classic Editor is accessed via WP Admin. It’s still the plugin, but it’s set up and managed for us directly by WordPress.com.
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Hi Jennifer,
I’m on the free scheme.
The only option I have when I activate ‘Show !P-admin pages if available’ is ‘Dashboard Colour Scheme’.
I don’t have the ‘Pages’ option to navigate to?
What can I do to get it please?
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Do you see “dashboard appearance” above “dashboard colour scheme”? You need to click on the black dot “toggle” slider to change between wp-admin and Calypso dashboards.
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@dianewordsworth, just to address this:
I’m only copy and pasting because some of the responses from staff and mods are also just copy and pasting. Instead of addressing this issue, it’s as though they’re sticking their fingers in their ears and singing la-la-la.
We use predefined answers to save time in solving problems: different people often ask the same or similar questions. We don’t mind sharing the same answer again. But copying and pasting the same complaint over and over again is not solving a problem, and would constitute harassment if it continues.
Please understand, nobody in this community, including staff, can keep the classic editor here indefinitely. What we can do is surface the issues you’re having with blocks.
It takes work to maintain an editor; unfortunately it’s not just a matter of leaving existing code untouched, especially as feature sets diverge. If you wanted to, you could get your own hosting and an older copy of WordPress (here are the versions and change logs) then manually patch any bugs and security issues that come up. It’s a lot of work.
On our services, we are moving forward with blocks. If you don’t know how to do something, we can tell you how. If you’re running into a bug or a serious friction point, let us know what that is so we can work on it.
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@phithx9 I see you have a number of WordPress.com websites under this account. If you go to your account settings page at https://wordpress.com/me/account and scroll down a bit, do you see a section “Interface Settings” with the toggle switch next to Dashboard Appearance to change to “Show wp-admin pages if available”?
Toggling that switch in your Account settings will flip your sites over to your website’s WP Admin pages the next time you visit your WordPress.com site’s Posts and Pages dashboards.
Posts yoursite.wordpress.com /wp-admin/edit.php
Pages yoursite.wordpress.com /wp-admin/edit.php?post_type=pageIf you are referring to a different site that is not under this account, please share that site’s address.
I’m heading offline for the night. I’ll check back here in the morning.
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