Massive changes to the WP interface
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I run a self-hosted WordPress blog too – using the Classic dashboard – and it rocks.
That’s my experience also.
Is the intent to roll out WordPress.ORG software that has the final iteration of the new Beep Beep Boop editor in it rather than the Tiny MCE (classic) editor?
If that is the plan then that means self hosted bloggers will be able to use a plugin to get what they lost back, but that won’t be the case for WordPress.COM bloggers. When the classic editor is removed by Staff here at WordPress.COM we will be stuck with Beep Beep Boop editor.
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Thanks for the advice @apetcher. Things are already moving along right now, and they aren’t stopping! So I will do my best to help as the updates go through this time since there aren’t any plans to undo the latest updates and a few more are coming. The old pages are still there for you too, so if you need them you can still use those as needed.
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@designsimply, thank you for responding. You are extremely patient and respectful.
Thanks so much @adrienneadams! That means a lot to me. I like your stories about the classes you teach. I think that’s a cool space to be in. I have taught a few beginner workshops at conferences, and I had fun doing it. I love being around people who love learning.
But fast forward to August 2014’s New Editor: one day we log in, press “New Post,” and are whisked away from our blog dashboard to the WP.com dashboard, with a silly “Beep Beep Boop” animation, and are presented with a completely new and unfamiliar user interface, with no way to return to our Blog Admin.
That is not “iterative,” that is not “evolving.” That is a slap in the face.
I hear what you are saying. I think we learned a lot from the updates to the editor from before. Part of me wishes I had been working in the forums during that time to help, and part of me wonders if I’d have been able to keep up with all of that feedback! WordPress.com is going through a transition right now, and I really do hope you’ll stick around.
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Thanks for the feedback @japantranslationusa. I don’t have anything like a version checkbox to offer you right now, but what I can do is say I’m here to work on the latest updates with you and am working right now to collect and report feedback about the latest changes, particularly the stats page.
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@timethief, there are no plans to remove the TinyMCE editor from the classic dashboard.
Yes, but there are plans to remove it from WordPress.COM, right?
That implies Tiny MCE may be replaced in the WordPress.ORG software versions in the future does it not?
Please clarify because I’m currently paying for two domains and two no-ads upgrades on blogs I’m not blogging in here at WordPress.COM while I quietly build another site. I don’t want to find out that I will not be able to use a TinyMCE editor plug-in on a self hosted WordPress.ORG site in the future.
As for my WordPress.COM blogs I intend to take them down.
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Yes, but there are plans to remove it from WordPress.COM, right?
I’m pretty sure there aren’t any plans to remove TinyMCE from WordPress.com. The classic dashboard pages are staying.
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Okay, hold on, I think terms are getting mixed up here, and I might have misunderstood your question the first time. There are no plans to remove TinyMCE from the classic dashboard on WordPress.com or from WordPress.org that I know of. HTH.
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There are no plans to remove TinyMCE from the classic dashboard on WordPress.com or from WordPress.org that I know of.
Bookmarked! :)
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@designsimply
I’m saying without malice that I dislike the Beep Beep Boop editor and the the toilet paper role style of Stats pages intensely. I also dislike the fact that my choices to disable the reblog and like buttons on posts can still be used on the Admin bar and in the Reader. It peeves me that my choice of displaying only summaries in my feed does not stop mobile users from reading full posts without ever clicking into my blog and creating a page view stat. Most of all I dislike the way we WordPress.COM have been treated as unwitting guinea pigs.I could suppose run a complete list of the changes that have made my blogging experience an unhappy one and be so-opted into improving features and function I dislike but I will not be doing that.
When I survived a respiratory arrest just prior to my my 65th birthday in August, I decided to blog here at WordPress.COM temporarily and only without obligation, because I was tempted to publish a series of rants about those and other unannounced, unexpected and unwelcome “changes” that have had negative impacts on my blogging experiences. The fact I was even considering publishing rants hurt because ranting is not my style at all. I was a fan girl not a critic and was trying to create a way to make it to a Wordcamp in Vancouver or Victoria and pay for an escort to assist me to get there and to participate.
I’m so sad at this point in time Sheri that I long to believe that at least the classic editor will remain here on our WordPress.COM dashboards and will not be replaced by the Beep Beep Boop one which appears to be one we desktop users do not favor.
The classic dashboard pages are staying.
If and only if that’s 100% for sure then I’ll put away the kleenex box, stop work on my private self hosted install, cancel the hosting, surrender the domain name, and then consider resuming publishing on my blogs here again.
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I did not read through all the posts on this topic. So maybe what I want to notify has already been said and noted.
I find it very annoying that there is no logout on the stats pages anymore. Not on the new stats design and not on the old one. And the links to forums, help etc. in the menu bar are gone too in both versions (new and old).
I prefer the old design with all the former functionality. The new design (unfortunately) is a couple of steps back or a couple of steps in the wrong direction.
I noted that you change a lot of things over time. And a lot of things were good. But this one…
Why did you do it? What did you intend with the new design? Or what was the intention when it was created? Improvement of functionality was not the goal I suppose, wasn’t it? Because it must have been obvious to the designers and programmers that some essential functions are missing now. Or not?
Keep up the good work, and learn from the feedback. Cheers!
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@timetheif, put away the kleenex! The classic dashboard is staying. :)
and was trying to create a way to make it to a Wordcamp in Vancouver or Victoria
This would be SO COOL! You should go!!
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@janedoemuc, no problem at all.
The sign out link has come up before, so I will add your comment to the mix. Thanks for taking the time to write in with your feedback.
Why did you do it? What did you intend with the new design?
One of the biggest reasons I can think of is that it’s a new start that opens up some technological options for future projects that we don’t have in the existing WP Admin infrastructure. It’s a bit hard to explain without being able to talk about all the cool projects being planned for it’s future—but if you stick around then you will be here to see those things come to life. The first steps are a hard ones though, it means sticking with it and working through some big changes to get to a better position. I’m sorry if that part of it is causing you some trouble!
Keep up the good work, and learn from the feedback. Cheers!
This is a really good thing to say. Thanks for saying how you feel and also being positive. I appreciate that.
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To sign out of WP, I have to go to My Sites, then click on View Site, then I get the familiar tool bar where I sign out. THEN, I have to close out other browsers of pages I was on, without a formal sign out. I know I am officially signed out, but it always makes me worried about security. Because of this issue, every time I am done with my WP, I sign in again to make sure it doesn’t take me directly past the sign in/password page. It is just a hassle at work when you’re wondering if your blog is left open. This was never a problem before. There was always a sign out icon no matter what page I was on, I believe.
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@mishunderstood, thanks for the feedback. You’re right that there was a sign out link in a dropdown menu in the blue toolbar in the past—now you need to click the Gravatar and then click “Sign Out” on the left if you are on a page that has the blue toolbar.
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@designsimply
Sorry to pester you, but did you notice my 2nd post – about the missing graph in post history and a couple other things? (after you told me how to get to the history) Since you are reporting user fb to the developers I really hope you report it! and my other point about missing totals, too thanks! -
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Hi – Love WordPress – use it as foundation for all the sites I build but confused and dismayed by ‘new look/feel/navigation’ at my .com (free) site – Don’t like the new post mechanism – love my old dashboard, and yes, I’ll adjust, but just saying – not to my liking.
From my reader/stats page, I used to be able to hover over my ‘account’ link at top of page and ‘log-out’ without first clicking over to “my account” and then signing out.
I’m sure there are multiple reasons for the upgrades being as they are – – I confess to not liking upgrades unless they make my life easier, not harder – – –
I will tell you that I return to ‘classic’ dashboard or ‘WP Admin” to do what I want to do – – that I had extra clicks/page loads to arrive at “logging out” screen from my reader — I can hover/log-out link click when I’m visiting other sites, via the navigation bar- why not from my reader? Am I in need of a theme upgrade to allow this? AND if I’m just missing something, feel free to tell me so – – -I’m aware I don’t know it all – – -That said – – I still love you guys, your vision, your work – I appreciate WordPress and all it’s inherent visions – – -just have been struggling with the ‘new & improved’ version for weeks now and, like Windows 8, didn’t send feedback until I had time to adjust – – perhaps I need better adjusting, or perhaps, this feedback will enable you to make this and future upgrades more user friendly – –
Not my call on what your upgrades include/delete – but never think my angst/frustration is personal – – just give me some guidance and/or fix navigation avenues to make it easy for new users (and old ones) to love you ! :)
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designsimply…you are saying that the classic dashboard is not going away?
@mishunderstood, correct!How will the Classic and New dashboards coexist? Right now we can post both either at
mysite.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post-new.php….orwordpress.com/post/? Will other functions move frommysite.wordpress.com/wp-admin/...towordpress.com/….? This is my big concern— that the workflow is fragmenting between two very different and largely incompatible UIs.
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