Massive changes to the WP interface
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Your comment:
4. If you are truly serious about building a business, gaining followers/customers etc., and your stats are how you gauge on how best to make money, seriously, why aren’t you self-hosted and building your business?
may apply to yourself, but why do you assume the rest of us are blogging for the same reasons you are?
I derive zero income from my blog but I am highly interested in my stats!
My blog teaches a little-known textile craft that I am very passionate about, and very interested in “spreading around”. My stats and total followers would seem very puny to WP and probably to you, but in its subject my blog is the, or one of the, first results in any google search, and I am highly interested in where my views come from, and how to improve my tutorials, increase views etc… I do now pay for no ads and my own domain name, but I was just as interested in my stats when my blog was free, and WP was deriving income from displaying ads on it…Just saying! I am a wordpress customer, and the stats analysis is one of the WP functions I am very interested in.
I’m sure others have their own similar or dissimilar reasons for being concerned about their own stats too, regardless of what your own attitude toward your own stats are!
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Thanks (fr berzerkeley ca), kerin!! I checked out your site a few days ago, wish I could visit in person and look at some of your thread!
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@timethief
and yet only a few days ago you were snarking more than most!
The reason that outpourings are repetitive is that nothing is done to address the issues.
It is insane that WP introduces massive changes without testing and then expects the users to identify the avalanche of issues. My repetitive advice is ‘get it right first time!’ -
Quite so. This has all the hallmarks of something rushed through to meet a deadline. Even then after 32 pages of complaint and some correction to the editor, it remains deficient. It only takes one lunatic to get hold of the asylum and refuse to let go.
But, it’s only one part of life so Merry Xmas anyway.
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Anyone know how to bypass the page?
I’ve sent feedback multiple times concerning this new stats page and the iOS app’s numerous issues.
I just want to skip the page for as long as possible. It’ll be forced on us at some point but until that happens I’d prefer no to have to manually click it and provide another wordpress page view every time.
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geoff, the best way is to bookmark the old stats page, https://wordpress.com/my-stats This is the blue WP one with the map.
If you prefer the old-old Stats page, you can find that from the old dashboard, Site Stats is the link to click.
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So far the old dashboard has been maintained but I do fear that this is only a transition stage after which it will disappear forever. I haven’t read all the comments here, only some, but the new editor doesn’t seem to offer anything the old one does. I want to urge WP to keep the classic dashboard, stats page, editor and widgets – everything basically – as it was, and for now, still is. Even to log out I need to load a separate page under the new design, rather than the drop down in the old design. Please, don’t change what works! Thank you.
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I am very nervous about the changes happening to WordPress UI, as I feel as though the only platform I found that works fairly easily for a math-related blog may become more challenging to use. My concerns are:
1) Latex support is critical. Please do not touch this!
2) I NEVER write and post immediately. I appreciate that many do, but most of my posts require a week or two of re-reading and editing before they are ready to go public. Please do not assume that everyone wishes to post as soon as they have written – keep it very easy to save a draft version, then return to it for further editing frequently.
3) Writing one of my blog posts on a smartphone screen is impossible. A tablet might work, but I really value having a standard keyboard which allows fast typing along with enough real estate on the screen to see the previous paragraph as well as this one. Laptops are not going to go away for a number of applications, and I recently read that the growth in the market share of tablets may be levelling off while interest in laptops is picking up again. So, by all means include mobile in your design criteria, but please do not assume that laptops and desktops will become obsolete and eliminate features that work well on that format.
4) In the absence of being able to use all of Google’s analytics on my pages, I rely on the Stats page to provide me with the feedback I seek. The ratio of views to visitors seems the best proxy you have for level of engagement, and your new Stats graph no longer displays it. While it provides today’s numbers, I have to calculate the ratio myself, and cannot see the ratio for previous days on my laptop. Please restore the views/visitor ratio on the new stats graph, or show it when you mouse over or tap a bar the way it works on my android phone.
5) The Stats I am most interested in each day are (most important first)
– views by page (today, summaries)
– total views (today, summaries, with views/visitor ratio)
– views by country6) The Search Engine Terms summary used to be wonderful, but has become almost useless with so many encrypted searches.
7) The Referrers summary is very useful, but other math bloggers are drowning in the profusion of related blogs, and have largely stopped referring to other blogs unless a current topic is being discussed. While my viewers statistic is up significantly, I receive relatively few comments and referrals. Thankfully, your spam filters seem to work very well.
8) Change to core functionality hurts my productivity. A lot. In some cases change may allow greater future productivity, but only after a period of adjustment (and frustration for us old geezers). I say this as someone who has been programming and designing software systems since 1970, and is usually willing to give a new feature a try. There is great value to stability. So, by all means try out new features periodically – but please do not subject us to constant change.
9) Having multiple versions of seemingly the same page (I’m thinking of the Stats page), along with multiple ways to get there can be very confusing. The navigation process has become a bit too complex over the past 18 months (start at top left, or top right, or title bar? Oh wait, it depends on the page I am on.).
Thank you.
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With all of the well-justified criticism of the new stats page, I think many of our collective gripes are well-established. I get the sense, however, that it is unlikely that we will be heard and that the old, better stats page is going to remain a permanent feature, let along one that is the default page.
That being said, I would be interested to hear from someone at wordpress as to exactly what the improvements or enhancements of the new stats pages are. I think this would be constructive for all of us that dislike it to see where things are going and what the endgame of all these changes is.
Thanks in advance for a response to this question…
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I’d also like to hear the rational for the new UI.
As the new stats page also includes what is, presumably, the new dashboard, and with the focus on creating a consistent interface, I’m concerned that the entire UI will devolve into a pared down, inefficient, mobile-centric experience.
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One problem may be that Mr Mullenweg rarely writes a long post. So he doesn’t notice some of this.
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Here is WP’s latest post on “these new features for a smoother blogging experience.”
“Smoother”, where did they come up with the definition of this word?
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My comment on that post is in Moderation.
timethief Jan 2nd at 5:22 pm
Your comment is awaiting moderation.Hi Ben,
Given the number of support forums threads providing feedback on the new dashboard, and particularly the negative feedback in one which has now reached 395 comments, https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/massive-changes-to-the-wp-interface?replies=395 I’m surprised that you are extolling the virtues of the new dashboard. Frankly, I dislike it intensely so I do not use it, and if the classic dashboard is removed then I’ll be moving to self hosting. -
I posted there too now. But I assume they won’t publish sceptical comments, but if they do, then respect! When there is a thread with around (maybe soon) 400 pages about the issue, it should be allowed to ask where exactly the updates made blogging more smoother.
The changes rather slowed me down because when you still want to use the old pages, everything is now more “click-heavy” and confusing. Also I am still very interested in some facts and wish they would publish the data of the survey they have on the new stats page.
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In many ways, WordPress’s train wreck of a new UI mirrored Microsoft’s attempt to ram down the Metro interface down the desktop user’s throat. Like many others, I of course immediately installed the Classic Shell on my Windows 8.x machine, and so was able to enjoy the benefits of certain 8.0 features, without the many, many drawbacks of the floating turdosity in the punch bowl that is/was Metro. Of course end user reaction to Metro’s 8.x was a catastrophic development for Redmond, necessitating the launching of 9.0 later this year, a total rethink of Metro 2.0 — and probably cost the careers of several dev big wigs in the House that Bill Built. Perhaps Matt and his merry bank of happiness engineers can learn a thing or two from the Windows 8.x UI debacle — of course, pride and hubris would have to be left on a shelf at the door for that to happen.
;-)
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look, there’s myspace snow on that page!
Wow, I never knew blogging was a competition! Be sure to get all those likes, comments and views everyone! If your score remains lacking follow one of our courses!
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Posted a link to here on “start blogging” . It’s in moderation. Last time I did that they closed the topic. Oh the shame. :-)
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