Menu problems
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I’m using the 2014 Theme on a WordPress.com hosted site. When I create a Page to which I assign NO Parent the page appears in my top navigation menu even though the settings for this menu are NOT set to “Automatically add new top-level pages to this menu”. Also, even though it appears on my blog’s home page it will not appear on the Menu Structure page where I manually add pages to the menu. How can I stop these pages without parents from appearing in the menu?
Next, the Menu Structure pages says “Drag each item into the order you prefer.” Doing so only changes the order on the Menu Structure page, but not in the menu on my home page? That doesn’t make sense to me. Menu items always appear in alphabetical order in the menu on my home page regardless of the order I arrange them on the Menu Structure page. Is the order of items in the menu on my home page supposed to reflect the order of items on the Menu Structure page?
Another problem is that when I roll over a menu item on my home page such as the Campground Reports item, the list of reports is so long that is spills off the bottom of the page. If I move the cursor down to the bottom of the page in order to cause the menu to scroll so as to reveal the remaining items the menu does not scroll, it just closes. I’ve tried it with Safari and Chrome on my MacBook Pro with identical results.
Are these Theme problems? WordPress problems? User stupidity problems?
My blog is RussOnTheRoad.wordpress.com
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Please read this carefully http://wpbtips.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/posts-on-pages/ There are many common errors, misunderstandings and misconceptions when creating custom menus and there are some tweaks you can use to improve your custom menu as well. http://wpbtips.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/custom-menus/
By default the front page of the blog is the post that displays all posts in your blog in reverse chronological order with the most recent post on top. Though there is only one dynamic page in a blog for posts (not pages) http://en.support.wordpress.com/post-vs-page/ and we cannot post to more than that one page, we can create the appearance that we have posted to more than one page.
Among the most common misconceptions is that bloggers fail to understand is
(1) there is only one page we can post to in any blog and
(2) the static pages http://en.support.wordpress.com/pages/ they create do not automatically update.Please read this support doc as Pages and posts http://en.support.wordpress.com/post-vs-page/ are not the same.
Please also read this support doc as Pages (static) https://en.support.wordpress.com/pages/ and category pages (dynamic) https://en.support.wordpress.com/category-pages/ are not the same.
Only the dynamic pages like Categories, Tags and Archives created by the software when we publish a post we that we have assigned Categories and Tags to will update automatically update. https://en.support.wordpress.com/category-pages/
We organize posts by assigning categories to them. You can create a custom menu and add the dynamic categories pages into the custom menu.
http://en.support.wordpress.com/posts/categories/
http://en.support.wordpress.com/menus/
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Thank you for your response. I don’t, however, see how any of that has anything to do with my issues. I know how a post differs from a page. I know how categories are used. I’m not confused or unclear about these things that I know of and I don’t see how they are related to the issues I asked about.
None of the information I have read says anything about pages appearing in the main menu when they aren’t listed in the menu items, or why ordering the menu items doesn’t change the order in the menu. In other words, the things I have read at the links you provided say how things should work, but in my experience they are not working that way.
I’m already familiar with much of the informatiion at the links you provided and have not found the answers there. I could be missing them or misunderstanding what I’m reading. If you have solutions for me great, but referring me to pages with which I am largely familiar and upon which I find no solutions isn’t helpful.
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I apologize. Perhaps you are experiencing a bug like lorelle reported here https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/bug-changing-category-title-removes-category-from-custom-menu?replies=2
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I’m not dealing with Categories. I have Pages that appear in the main navigation menu when they shouldn’t, and since they don’t appear in the list of items that are supposed to be in the menu (the items listed on the Menu Structure page where you add , delete and reorder items in the menu) they cannot be deleted.
I also cannot reorder items in the menu. I can change their order on the Menu Structure page but they always remain alphabetical in the menu itself.
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I am visually challenged.
What are the URLs of the Pages you cannot exclude from the custom menu please?
Go to https://russontheroad.wordpress.com/wp-admin/nav-menus.php
Do you have this setting disabled?Menu Settings
Auto add pages
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I also cannot reorder items in the menu. I can change their order on the Menu Structure page but they always remain alphabetical in the menu itself.
If you are using this http://en.support.wordpress.com/menus/#changing-the-order-creating-sub-menus then that sounds like a bug.
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The setting to “Automatically add new top level pages to this menu” is DISABLED. I said so in the first paragraph of my original post.
I can drag the menu items to reorder them in the Menu Structure pane at https://russontheroad.wordpress.com/wp-admin/nav-menus.php but reordering them there has no effect on my blog home page where they remain alphabetically arranged. This was the subject of the second paragraph in my original post.
Finally, items that appear in the main nav menu on my blog that I cannot delete include the Jeff Busby Campground Report, the page named MS, and the Natchez State Park page. These all have NO PARENT. These, interestingly, are not in alphabetical order. They were added today as part of some testing. They do they appear on https://russontheroad.wordpress.com/wp-admin/nav-menus.php so I cannot use the Delete function there to remove them. There is no mechanism by which you can delete a menu item unless it appears in the Menu Structure pane and these do not.
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I did read all of that Russ. I just wanted you to check again because it does appear there is a bug. That is why I have tagged this thread for Staff.
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Oh, OK, no worries.
You didn’t ask me if I would check again so it seemed as if you might have missed that which I’d already written.
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Killing me might be harder than you think. The Grim Reaper has failed to harvest my life thrice. (no kidding!)
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Hi Russ,
Right now, none of your custom menus are set to be used on your site. That means even if you’ve created the custom menus you want, they won’t appear (and their settings won’t be used) on your site itself. Instead, your theme’s default menus are being used.
If you’re editing those menus under Appearance > Menus in your site’s WP Admin dashboard, you can click the “Manage Locations” tab to see your theme’s custom menu locations and what menu is being used in each location:
https://russontheroad.wordpress.com/wp-admin/nav-menus.php?action=locations
To enable your custom menus, select the menu you want to use in each location from the dropdown menu there, and then click the “Save Changes” button. Please let me know if I can do anything more to help with that. :)
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Thank you for your response. However, it really isn’t relevant to my situation. You are clearly are referring to Custom Menus. I am referring to the Default Menus that are built in to the theme. The problems I wrote about have to do with the default menus, not custom menus. Perhaps I could have been more clear.
It is the default menu that is positioned across the top of my pages. The last three items: Jeff Busby campground, MS, NatcheZ State Park are items that I cannot delete. They do not appear in the Menu Structure pane of the Edit Menu’s tab under Appearance. It is here that menu items are arranged and deleted, but you can’t delete something that does not appear in this pane. The only items used in this menu that appear in the Menu Structure pane include: About, Boondocking Reports, Campground Reports, Travel Reports, People, Photos, and Photo Tips.
The only method by which I have been able to remove the last three items I mentioned above is to assign them a parent. They have no parent now.
Separately of the items that do appear in the menu and the Menu Structure pane, those items I listed above, they do not appear in the menu in the order I have arranged them in the Menu Structure pane. The order in which I listed them above is the order they appear from top to bottom in the Menu Structure pane, but you will note that their order in the menu itself differs.
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Hi Russ,
If you’re looking under Appearance > Menus in your site’s WP Admin dashboard, or in the Menus section of the new dashboard, that’s the custom menu section of your site. There isn’t a way to change your theme’s default menus — only to set up custom menus to replace the default behavior in your theme.
Until those custom menus are assigned to a location in your theme, they won’t have an impact on what you see on your site.
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Is there a private assistant via email at wordpress to walk me through a few questions?
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@eleanor27 — You’re welcome to contact us through our contact form for direct help with your questions. :)
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Oh, okay. I did not understand that. This raises new questions. The menu that appears as my top navigation menu contains Pages that I have added to it at at Appearance/Menus in the Menu Structure. These include, in the order in which they are listed at Appearance/Menus in the Menu Structure pane: About, Boondocking Reports, Campground Reports, Travel Reports, People, Photos and finally Photo Tips. To be clear, again, those are the items I have manually added to the menu, they are shown in that order in the Menu Structure pane, that is the order in which they appear in the pane, and there are no other items shown in the list in that pane. None.
You say this is a custom menu. OK, fine. You also say that none of the custom menus I’ve created are set to be used on my site. If none of the custom menus I have created are set to be used on my site then how do we explain that the top navigation menu that shows on my homepage is a menu that contains the items I just listed above, items I’ve manually added to what you say is a custom menu? I don’t see how that is possible.
I need to add two things: first the order of the items in the custom(?) menu on my home page is supposed to be set by the order I arrange them at Appearance/Menus in the Menu Structure pane. Right? Well, the order the items appear in the menu on my home page is Alphabetical, not the order I have them set to in the Menu Structure pane. How is that explained?
Next, the last three items that show in the menu on my home page, Jeff Busby Campground, Mississippi and Natchez State Park are not in the list of items at Appearance/Menus in the Menu Structure pane. So, as I understand things, they shouldn’t be in the menu, but they are, and they cannot be deleted because they have to be shown at Appearance/Menus in the Menu Structure pane in order to be deleted. Also, unlike the other items in the menu which are rendered in alphabetical order these last three are not except relative to themselves. How is that explained?
I cannot make sense out of any of this. Not one bit! There is either a bug, some corruption, or WordPress is impossible to understand.
Can you tell me please what menu it is that appears as the navigation menu across the top of my home page if it is not a custom menu I named My Top Nav Menu.
Can you tell me please why the items shown in that menu are in that menu?
Can you tell me please, if I cannot control what items are in the default top nav menu how I’m supposed to know what is going to wind up in that menu?
I don’t see any way to access or turn on or off default menus. How can I do that?
Thank you!
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