Menus help needed Multilingual site
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Hi
I must be missing some setting. I made a second menu.
1st Menu
Home Blog Contact Francais2nd Menu
Home Blogue Contact EnglishWhat I expect is a click on “Francais” replace the 1st Menu by the 2nd Menu and a click on English replace the 2nd Menu by the 1st Menu.
For now, I have the basic free site
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Hi Ravichahar,
How would that help?
For now, it is private since I cannot make the blog bilingual and almost empty.
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To create a multilingual website, there are different ways. And the task you want to accomplish requires two separate sites so that whenever someone clicks on Francais, the readers gets redirected to the language having a different language and the same applies for English.
You can add a custom link to the menu items to redirect them to your website in a different language.
But if you want to setup the bilingual menu on a single website, it’s only possible if you just use the Google Translate widget so that people can translate your website.
https://en.support.wordpress.com/translate-your-site/
I was asking the website domain name so that if we call the staff, the link to your website is required.
That’s the first requirement to get help in the forums.
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How would that help?
For now, it is private since I cannot make the blog bilingual and almost empty.
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Hey Ravichahar,
I have looked at the first link, text and video, the option 2: one site, two posts seem to be what I need. The one thing I don’t see explained is how to switch from one menu to the next.
For the site https://governanceriskcontinuity.wordpress.com, I did not know that rule
My idea was for the blog to be in English when you get in, and if you prefer to view in French you can easily switch and read. I don’t believe in making one blog by language. It just split traffic for one.
Google Translate is nice for basic text, but more technical or specialized content get a lower quality translation. So I prefer to make the transition myself.
I saw some widget that can do it simply but would only work with the business plan. This is not in my short-term plan if it is not possible I will evaluate all paying option.
So, for now, the Idea is two posts series separated by Categories & Tags. Each menu showing the corresponding language.
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Hello there, I hope you don’t mind me adding to this discussion.
When you choose to create a single multilingual site, you cannot change the main site menu depending on the language your site visitor selects. Language is determined by the blog language you choose in your site settings: https://en.support.wordpress.com/language-settings/
You could add a Custom Menu widget for the second language and display it via widget visibility only on the home page and the relevant category. https://en.support.wordpress.com/widgets/#widget-visibility
If you are going to post content for two different language communities, I’d still suggest going with Door #3 two separate free sites using the same theme. Depending on the blog language you chose, built-in theme text like “home” and such like are only available in that language.
Think of it also from your followers’ perspective. When you have one site and two languages, if you post in both languages, but I only speak one, I’ll be receiving posts in both languages.
You mentioned Stats. Wouldn’t it be more useful to you to know which language is getting more traffic and engagement?
Just some additional input to think about.
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Just to be clear
So the main site menu can’t be changed.What if I was to change the page from say
myblog.wordpress.com/home to
myblog.wordpress.com/home2 using a menu selection and back when needed?The splitting of the site doesn’t make sense to me, the same subject. Would WordPress.com split its site for each language?
For the follower when I post something it will be in both language. Only disadvantage the will receive a message for both posts unless I can change that.
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Hello again,
Having Home1 and Home2 on the same site won’t change what appears in the Primary Menu location. Most themes offer a single Primary Menu location, usually your main navigation, and a Social Links menu, which uses icons and so isn’t relevant. Unlike widgets, Custom Menus do not have visibility settings allowing you to select which pages the Custom Menu appears on. The same Custom Menu will appear in the Primary Menu location on all Pages.
Yes, WordPressdotcom has different subdomain sites for forums in different languages as well as some support sites and blogs.
On a single site with bilingual posts or one post per language, Followers who have subscribed to notifications of new posts on your site will receive notifications of all new posts published regardless of language. This is not something you can change.
If you create categories for each language, your subscribers can subscribe to the RSS feed of each category; it would take some extra work to set up, but not automatically using the regular “follow” widget/button.
Since your site is marked Private, please let us know what theme you are currently using and whether you have either the Premium or Business upgrade plan which allows CSS editing. Thanks.
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Thanks, justjennnifer
The site is marked private, that should be temporary until I manage to have it in set in a way I feel comfortable!
So we can create menus, but can’t use more than one! Must be my understanding of menu functionality.
The current them is “Colinear”
The current plan is the basic free, that may change. But it would be Personal or Premium, not getting access to Plugins for multilanguage such as “PolyLang”.If I start to understand possibility and limitation
Option 1 is one bilingual post
Option 2 is unclear, I could have the main menu with – Home Blog Blogue(fr) Contact
Option 3 is two sites like Original.WordPress.com and fr.Original.WordPress.comOn Option 2 I could possibly, manage for subscribers/followers to receive the appropriate language RSS.
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Hi again, you’re welcome. :)
I’m working on my full answer, but need to be away from the computer until much later today my time. Thanks for your patience.
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Hello again,
So we can create menus, but can’t use more than one! Must be my understanding of menu functionality.
You can create as many custom menus as you want, however, you can only *display* them where the theme has menu locations available. Colinear has one Primary Menu location but as it has sidebars, you can overcome this limitation with a Custom Menu Widget, as mentioned earlier.
Under Option 2 at https://en.support.wordpress.com/set-up-a-multilingual-blog/#option-2-one-site-two-posts you would publish a post in English and a separate post in French. To each post you would add a category: “ENGLISH” or “FRANCAIS.” You could then use these categories to DISPLAY each language on its own Category Page (which is automatically generated by the WP software) in a Custom Menu. The Option 2 in the support guide explains that briefly, but here’s more detail on that:
http://support.wordpress.com/posts/categories/
https://en.support.wordpress.com/category-pages/Your menu could look like
HOME / ENGLISH / FRANCAIS / CONTACT or
HOME / BLOG / BLOGUE / CONTACT (This choice means making some label changes in the Custom Menu you create.)In order to allow subscribers to follow a category, you would have to set up an RSS feed link for each category feed, possibly in an HTML widget. https://en.support.wordpress.com/widgets/custom-html-widget/
Just to be clearer, all posts are published to the Posts page, which by default is the front page of your site. So under Option 2, I’d also consider making a bilingual About page your static home page. https://en.support.wordpress.com/pages/front-page/
Under Option 3, the two sites option, if you are using two free sites without a custom domain/subdomain option, your sites likely would be:
governanceriskcontinuity.wordpress.com
governanceriskcontinuityXX.wordpress.com with XX being the 2 letter code for your 2nd language. ( https://en.support.wordpress.com/create-a-blog/#adding-a-new-site-or-blog-to-an-existing-account )When you create a Custom Menu under Option 3, BLOGUE would be a custom link to your second, all French site. In this option you could then add the standard Follow Blog widget on each site. https://en.support.wordpress.com/widgets/follow-blog-widget/
May I make a suggestion at this point? Since your site is Private, have a read of those support guides I linked to here and earlier and then experiment to set up your site the way you want. Make sure to resize/view it in the Customizer for tablet and mobile to see how that changes the display. On most themes, widget sidebars will drop underneath the content column and the main menu will collapse behind a “hamburger” icon.
Come back to me here if you have any further questions.
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