New Dashboard, View Site Button, vanished !
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1tess, are you also mtdewvirus. I get so easily confused. I can think of a single blogging platform that doesn’t have ‘visit site’ in it’s dashboard. That’s not the same thing as surfing the ‘front end’ of a website. Try to think way back when you first started blogging. If you didn’t know ‘visit site’ was initially there, you wouldn’t know that blog title was the visit site option. Just seems like wp is setting themselves up for a recurring question. Hell, I don’t care. I answer everyone of em kindly. But those who seem to be getting frustrated over answering it, seem the most vehement about ‘visit site’ going. Why is that?
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Sorry, I don’t know “mtdewvirus?”
It’s just a tip that is useful in general.
When I first got a modem and started looking at web sites, I didn’t know that. There’d be pages with no link back to home and I’d waste time deleting the ends of addresses to get back to home pages. Things have changed a lot in 20 years, so perhaps that wasn’t the convention back then, and there are now fewer “orphan” pages. When I first learned it, I thought it was pretty cool to just click the titles. -
Yeah, it is cool. But, my point is that you were once confused. It just seems that designers need to start thinking from a Newbie perspective, IMHO. I don’t care if it says ‘visit site’ cuz I know how to visit my site. The only reason I’ve discussed it is cuz I try not to look at things from my angle. There’s 3 some odd million of us. They don’t all think like me or you. :)
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What happen is that when you get people used to something, and in your next revision/upgrade you change something, that will just confuse a lot of people. Take for instance previous version (up to 2.3 if memory serves me right), to edit a post you used to have a button, and if you clicked the post title, you’d be taken to the post itself; in 2.5 the post title was changed to edit the post and it got a lot of people confused.
I believe that it would be a good idea that wp.com had some screen-casts for every new thing the add/change to help people with the transition, and place a link to those in the help tab, or randomly at the top of the page like those yellow announcements.
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Under the Help tab, top right of the dashboard:
http://support.wordpress.com/
It seems well organized and detailed. They have some screencasts, but mostly text and screenshots. -
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@mtdewvirus- would be nice if you’d sticky the post you made yesterday. It’s gotten buried. Just sayin’… :)
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https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/new-dashboard-questions?replies=1
(It was so buried I had to go find it… ;) Also, a few words about the Gravatar/WP.com account email issue would be great, too.)
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That one is still stuck in the Support forum.
We’re looking at a solution to the Gravatar/WordPress.com email thing.
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@eurofile: You’re overlooking the fact that I did not refuse to answer on the grounds of what you call “criticizing”. I gave the link to my post as a reply (and I did that because that post includes answers to other possible questions as well.)
That apart, the forum is NOT a phone answering service where each “customer” is entitled to a new reply.
@diamondfistwerny: Perhaps you haven’t followed some discussions among forum volunteers re problems in this forum. Yes, some of us are frustrated when people don’t bother to search FAQs and past threads, for the reason I mention above. Check this recent thread, for instance:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/uploading-photos-5?replies=20
Five people ask (again), I answer (again), one of them returns, disregarding my reply, then two more ask the same thing IN THE SAME THREAD. Isn’t that a bit frustrating?Re the “Visit Site” tab, I think you are right: there was no reason for it to go (and the little pointer is ridiculous – it’s emphasizing the mistake!). But I didn’t see anyone getting “vehement” in favor of this particular change: I’ve only seen some volunteers (and that includes me) explaining how it’s done now.
As for the Forum tab, the whole thing is simply what devblog pointed out: some people are used to something, and when it changes they complain. Diamondfistwerny in another thread said that most bloggers just want to blog, and I agree: so why should the Forum tab be top-level in one’s blog dashboard? To me, now it’s where it should be: under Help, because that’s what it is. Help, if you happen to need it – in contrast to the things you need on a daily basis in order to manage your blog. (Since I visit the Forum almost every day, I should be one of the first to complain. But actually I’ve never used the dashboard link, because I use -as everybody can- a more direct way than top-level in my dashboard: top-level in my browser’s bookmarks.)
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Hey panag, where’s the link to your blog? I think you just scolded a forumer for not having one.
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BTW, I think I know the reason why you don’t have a link. But I’m trying to look at it from that questioner’s perspective. You telling him to provide a link, before help would be offered, and you Don’t HAVE A LINK!
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In your twisting way, saying “please give a link to your blog when asking questions” (so we van help more efficiently) is scolding… Congratulations.
And what do you think the reason I have no link to my name is?
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It is scolding when you don’t have a link yourself. If I were that guy, I’d be like, “Well that’s real nice, don’t answer my question. Ask me for a link, and you don’t even have one!”
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@diamondfistwerny and @panaghiotisadam
Please stop hijacking all of the topics with your arguing. It’s getting old. Thanks! -
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