NY Times Vs Robert Scoble
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The bugs and defects in Truth Laid Bear’s system are well know.
It is not even due to right wing versus left but due to defects and bugs in the ranking system.
The ranking by links is completely bogus and should only be used as a rough guideline.
Ranking by traffic, however, is quite accurate since it is based on the actual sitemeter.com stat counter results.
The major bug/defect with the traffic ranking on TLB is that it is able to be gamed by some people who use the same sitemeter code on dozens of sites and that results in several dozen of their sites showing up in the same poace in the results witht he exact same traffic numbers. It is pretty obvious … see numbers 20 to 34 in the current ranks by traffic … they are all the same code.
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I disagree with your take that ranking by traffic is meaningful while ranking by links is not. I’ve already listed why I favour ranking by links, and while I freely acknowledge that the system can be gamed, so can ranking by hits.
Any fool can put up a post called “Britney Spears Beaver shots” or “Saddam Hussein’s execution video” and get a billion hits, but A) what kind of crowd does that draw, B) what does that mean if not one of them saw fit to refer back to the post or the blog at all? To me, high traffic and low links mean a bait and switch, or that whatever you’re featuring is something people want to see voyeuristically but don’t want to be caught looking at. Naturally, pornsites boast high pageviews and low linkage.
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Porn site are the perfect example – high pageviews and low linkage. But they are not the only example. Consider that blog scrapers create no content of their own and yet get high hit rates. They do it for the advertising income.
Links are ephemeral but clearly more meaningful than pageviews or “unique visitor counts”. Other bloggers may to link your post because they strongly agree or strongly disagree with your point of view. The significance of the link they give is they that chose to respond to your post and to give it (i.e. your point of view) value. When greater numbers of bloggers do the same then blog ranking increases.
Revolving door traffic stats don’t cut it as a basis for any “awarding” or ranking IMO. -
I think you can tell from quotes’ and my positions on the issue which rating system favours which of us. I think in quotes’ case, the quotes themselves are short enough that they get copied wholesale, rather than linked to, and that would naturally depress the blog’s ranking on linkage-dependent systems. Sorry, I didn’t mean to equate anyone here with porn!
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>> I disagree with your take that ranking by traffic
>> is meaningful while ranking by links is not.That is not at all what I meant or said.
I saif that … On TLB,
Ranking by Links is BROKEN – totally and completely broken.
Ranking by Traffic works properly but has one known but/defect.
Proof of the broken-ness of the TLB link counting process is easy. One particular blog I know for sure to have 900+ links, more than 300 of them being front page links and over 200 of those being listed in the TLB ecosystem.
TLB link count is 42. (should be 200+)
Technorati link count is 900+
MSN link count is 3400+
Msn counts all links, Technorati counts Blog links, TLB does not count properly … hence … BROKEN.
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There are so many different kinds of blogs. Apples, oranges, grapes (and of course no one in this thread was throwing tomatoes by lining them up with porno blogs. I can see how different counting systems favour different kinds of blogs. I can see establishing criteria for blogs of a given kind and implementing a counting system for them that would have some integrity. But I can’t imagine a single system that would create reliable a base line for comparison between different kinds of blogs let alone accurate measurement of their presumed success (measurement of what?) That’s why the whole counting and ranking thing seems so meaningless to me.
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Problogger only gets 4400 visits a day? I find that hard to believe.
There’s also the question if that list takes into account RSS readers. I doubt it since it’s based on a javascript that needs to be loaded. (We’ve discussed TLB here in the past)
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I don’t see an open sitemeter.com counter on problogger.net. The visit number is probably left over from a long time ago.
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Problogger.net stats:
Statistics
Unique Visitors Today: 3,747
Page Views Today: 8,180
Unique Visitors this Week: 10,289
Page Views this Week: 23,472
Unique Visitors this Month: 3,496
Page Views this Month: 7,708 -
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http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&s=sm1problogger
VISITS
Total 2,386,300
Average Per Day 5,216
Average Visit Length 2:33
Last Hour 250
Today 3,109
This Week 36,514PAGE VIEWS
Total 5,313,482
Average Per Day 10,809
Average Per Visit 2.1
Last Hour 527
Today 6,589
This Week 75,662
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