old-style figures

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  peterson10 · Member · Feb 16, 2014 at 9:52 pm

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  I’m having some problems in trying to use old-style figures. The CSS code I’ve tried is

  p { font-feature-settings: onum; }

  But it’s not working. I’m using Minion Pro in the Fresh News theme.

  Any suggestions?

  Bill

  The blog I need help with is: (visible only to logged in users)

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  hfzrhmn · Member · Feb 17, 2014 at 1:29 am

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  Either you’re checking on a browser that does not support it, or Minion Pro does not have this feature. Not sure which one is happening here, though.

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  peterson10 · Member · Feb 17, 2014 at 1:37 am

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  Thanks, but I’m almost sorry you mentioned other browsers. I just took a look at the blog in Internet Explorer (my usual browser is Chrome), and instead of Minion it’s displaying (I think) Helvetica! Are there usually such dramatic differences in rendering on different browsers?

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  hfzrhmn · Member · Feb 17, 2014 at 3:03 am

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  Here’s Typekit’s browser support:

  http://help.typekit.com/customer/portal/articles/6786

  So I assume Minion Pro should show up correctly even in IE unless yours is a really old version (5 or below). IE has been quite problematic for web development, though, and as it normally has a really low percentage of users, it shouldn’t be too much of a worry if IE can’t display sites correctly.

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  peterson10 · Member · Feb 17, 2014 at 3:07 am

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  Thanks again for the advice. But to go back to my original question: I wonder if anyone else on this forum has suggestions about old-style figures. Was my CSS code wrong?

  I’d be very surprised if Minion Pro doesn’t support such figures, because I’ve used it in InDesign, and the OS figures were very much in evidence there.

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  hfzrhmn · Member · Feb 17, 2014 at 3:33 am

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  I did a bit of a detective work and this page (which is a demo for Myriad Pro)

  http://frgr.de/myriad_figures.html

  seems to give a hint:

  One important point: when building your kit, use the “All Characters” option, as the alternate figures are not being served otherwise.

  I tried the correct CSS syntax for onum as mentioned here:

  http://clagnut.com/sandbox/css3/

  -moz-font-feature-settings:"onum" 1;
  -moz-font-feature-settings:"onum=1";
  -ms-font-feature-settings:"onum" 1;
  -o-font-feature-settings:"onum" 1;
  -webkit-font-feature-settings:"onum" 1;
  font-feature-settings:"onum" 1;

  but that didn’t work on your site.

  So my best guess is that WordPress.com’s version of Minion Pro served from Typekit does not come in all characters (probably for file size consideration), and so it does not contain the old-style numbers.

  As a normal user I can’t really confirm this, though. I’ll notify the Staffs and see if they can verify.

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  hfzrhmn · Member · Feb 17, 2014 at 3:35 am

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  Forgot to mention one thing. This particular advice:

  One important point: when building your kit, use the “All Characters” option, as the alternate figures are not being served otherwise.

  does not seem to apply for WordPress.com users, as I can’t find the option anywhere. Custom Design -> Custom Fonts admin screen shows no such option. So we’re out of luck here until a Staff can confirm.

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  peterson10 · Member · Feb 17, 2014 at 4:01 am

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  OK. I continue to hope that there is a solution. Minion is a font that just cries out for old-style figures.

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  jackiedana · Member · Feb 17, 2014 at 10:53 pm

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  If you need assistance with fonts/CSS, it would be best to post your question in our CSS Customization forums. We have excellent staff and volunteers over there there who can help you out.

  https://en.forums.wordpress.com/forum/css-customization

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  peterson10 · Member · Feb 17, 2014 at 11:25 pm

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  Forgive my confusion, but isn’t that where this discussion is already taking place? I see this header on my screen right now: “WordPress.com Forums » CSS Customization.”

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  raincoaster · Member · Feb 17, 2014 at 11:29 pm

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  Yep. I don’t know much about CSS, but I can confirm this is in the right place. Sorry I can’t help more.

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  jackiedana · Member · Feb 18, 2014 at 5:24 pm

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  Oh my mistake, I thought this was in the support area. We don’t get a lot of modlooked threads in the CSS forums. :)

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  peterson10 · Member · Feb 18, 2014 at 5:48 pm

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  Not to worry. But the question remains: has anyone successfully used old-style figures in Minion Pro?

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  peterson10 · Member · Feb 18, 2014 at 6:07 pm

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  P.S. I just did an experiment in the Pilcrow theme with Minion Pro. I am able to get the old-style figures there with the code

  font-feature-settings: "onum"

  So that narrows it down: it means the problem lies in the Fresh News theme rather than Minion.

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  peterson10 · Member · Feb 19, 2014 at 9:03 pm

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  Just for the record, this is the message I have received from WooThemes (who created Fresh News): “I’m not able to provide support on WP.com themes.”

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  jackiedana · Member · Feb 19, 2014 at 9:26 pm

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  For help with Fresh News, you can post in the special premium theme forum for that theme at http://premium-themes.forums.wordpress.com/forum/fresh-news .

  That’s where the theme designers and others familiar with that particular premium theme will provide theme-specific support.

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  peterson10 · Member · Feb 19, 2014 at 9:41 pm

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  Thanks. I have now transferred my question over to that forum.

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  jackiedana · Member · Feb 19, 2014 at 10:05 pm

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  You’re welcome. I hope you can get it all sorted out! :)