Permanently Removing My Blog From Alpha Inventions
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@scopettg: I’m not sure why you’re starting this thread up again, but I’ll respond because you seem to have some misunderstanding of the issues.
I don’t recall anyone here saying that Alpha Inventions was doing anything illegal. Legality is not the issue.
Technorati and similar blog catalogs may display portions of a blog post (or even the entire post). Alpha Inventions isn’t a blog catalog. Showing parts of posts isn’t the issue.
Google and other search engines link to blogs and blog posts (and may even cache the entire post). Linking to blog content isn’t the issue.
Yahoo, Google, etc make money in part because of the content of blogs. Although he said earlier in this thread that Alpha Inventions wasn’t a business, alphainventions receives money from bloggers who want their blogs to be displayed more frequently on his site. It is a business. Making money from content isn’t the issue.
Here is the issue: what Apha Inventions does is generate hits on a blog by displaying it (for an arbitrarily short time) on his site. Some people don’t believe those hits are of any value because these hits don’t translate into actual readers (i.e., people who will interact with your blog and possibly return regularly). Personally, I don’t want those hits. I didn’t ask alphainventions to market my blog and I don’t want him to do it without my asking.
The solution is really simple: alpha inventions can offer his service to people who want it, instead of making people opt out. Speaking only for myself here, I’m not terribly concerned by any hits I might see from Alpha Inventions because I just ignore them, but having read Alpha Inventions’ ambiguous privacy policy at http://www.alphainventions.com/privacy , I’m not going to divulging my email to him. (Incidentally the statement about not setting cookies is wrong, too.)
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@whenpandasattack: I see your concern. LOL~ I think you are pretty valid in your concern that the hits generated are by displaying the blogs for some time and you just want ‘real’ noble hits.
Technically speaking, Alpha is a pretty good window dressing tool, but when the blogs do show up at display, Alpha users get to see them and visit the blog. Of course, when displaying, you think it’d produce hits unnaturally, but these hits poducin gadge is a free version of hiring people to ‘click and comment’ on your blog.
I can understand that you take noble hits seriously because you are pretty serious about your blogging. It’s as that you’d take [resolved] in the literal sense.
Currently, Alpha’s service includes display of dubious sites and I ever got attacks from presumingly ‘Googles’ trying to intrude my system and so on. I don’t know if this is the cookie part, but that’s a big issue no doubt.
I do agree with your ‘opt out’ want.
As for me, I just use the tool and any other harmless pheonomenon as part of online experience to have fun with and so on. Internet started that way to civilians, and shouldn’t end up as serious as commercial shits. Internet was and is a playground. What I mean is, Cheru may have unnaturally brought you more hits by opting you in, but are you sure your hits are natural before Alpha? Various site calculate hits differently (as mentioned in this forum before) some wants robotx to be included in hits to monitor techincal activities, some don’t. Sometimes the stats are broken up. If we are too serious on ‘real’ hits, how would I even know when I was seeing a hits of only 1 that it’s not a 1000 people reading my blog? So hits to me is pretty much merely a ‘decoration’. Just sharing my philosophy in this.
As for legality, that’s because some folks went to lawyers to understand this point when Scope can and has provided the ‘service’ on copyright in this forum. I have read some lawyers’ thinking or hope on copyright ‘myths’ which however, in real, still lies in the court’s ‘common sense’. The last post here was addressed to.
I suppose Cheru himself may need to find another way to market Alpha without opting people in. But technically speaking, if hits= number of times loading your page, there have been no real concern whether people do serious view your page. For instance, when you click ‘next’ on the right hand top of WordPress, chances are it does something like Alpha, it brings you to a new WordPress page. Most of the pages I personally don’t understand and will clicking next again until a page that I find interesting shows up. Can you see how similar is Alpha’s working on this? Except that it’s automated. But clicking ‘next’ will generate the hits for those blogs whereby (as you said) people (like myself) will click next again to rotate into another blog… And for WordPress, if you don’t clear cache after about ‘next-ing’ 5 blogs, you are going to have a high chance rotating back to the same blogs… (similar to how Alpha operates)
Which is the point I want to make here. When Alpha does something, yes… the hits may not be natural. But if there are users using Alpha, there will still be real attention as they browse through those displayed sites as if you are clicking ‘next’ in WordPress and even Blogger.com; and on the other hand, other events such as the way sites calculate hits may also lessen the hits you may like to see. Sometimes the server may go overloaded and start to dance in a hectic manner with your stats.
But of course you should always be able to choose to opt in. But how much choices do you really have? Eg. You can’t have adsense, and of course if some trojans will mess your system, it can attack your system by overloading your page. Which explains why I mostly take things very easy online with blogging as well. If the stats ain’t broken, just let it be. Because when Alpha displays your page, how do you know that I won’t see it and drop by to read your blog? If clicking Next at WordPress doesn’t bring people to your site but Alpha does, Alpha is still bringing you natural hits once you have got readers from the free marketing tool.
You can try clicking Next and see the possibility of landing into Scope’s blog. Almost less than 1%. And if nobody ever gets to know about Scope, how to have natural visitors?
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@scopettg: I’m sorry, I didn’t understand much of what you wrote, but I think it comes down to this: I don’t think most bloggers are actually interested in hits (the number of times your page was loaded). I think most bloggers actually want people to read their blog because it contains something of interest to them.
Bloggers (or webmasters) who are interested in having readers look for such things as returning visits, time spent on the blog, and number of pages visited. All of those things can be seen using third-party hit counters here on WordPress. Even just using the WordPress stats, I can see the search terms that bring people to my blog. My blog about panda attacks is probably not interesting to 99.99% of the people out there, but I know that some people are finding what they are looking for.
If you’re looking for people to find your blog by randomly clicking things or watching blogs flash up on Alpha Inventions, you’re not like me. You want hits; I want readers. Let’s agree to disagree about Alpha Inventions and see how this plays out over the next few months.
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@Whenpandasattack: Not exactly. You see, pal… There is no such thing as permanent readers especially those who will return faithfully. Such is blogging. Most bloggers blog, and disappear for a long or forever, and their readers almost immediately vanish in most cases.
What you want is noble, but may not be that pragmatic. And without people clicking next or Alpha marketing the existence of your blog, how would I or other Alpha users ever come across your ‘interesting’ blog?
It’s not just ‘hits’ that we want. It’s Fun. And of course, it’s about ‘Why’ we have to shun services which could for 1% help bloggers when it is even free. If somebody would have been giving $1 everything you ask, would you shun him because somebody else could have given you $3000 which is more like ‘real help’ as compared to a miserable $1?
What I want to say is very simple, while I completely understand and respect your choice on privacy plus your view on hits or readership and your view on blogging, what I am saying is… if you focus too much on (unnatural) hits and omit the possibility that Alpha may bring you readers when the blog on display is interesting… then readership might not be your real focus but hits is.
Without us clicking ‘next’ to chance upon your blog, without Alpha volenteerily includes your blog on rotation display, you are relying on ping sites to bring you hits/readers. But I definitely don’t think you will condemn WordPress for having the ‘Next’ button. How many people who uses ‘Next’ actually will not just briefly browse through and press ‘next’ again to go elsewhere? Alpha simply merely automates that. You got hits with us clicking ‘Next’ or with Alpha displaying your blog for a flash, but if your blog is not interesting of course those hits become unaturally since nobody will drop by.
I am using the ‘Next’ function on WordPress to let you guys and gals rationalise on the fact that it’s not really Alpha’s fault, since nobody can/should condemn WordPress for letting 1,000,000 (assuming, and it’s possible) readers to surf blogs that way.
Whether your blog or mine is interesting to anyone, frankly to say… it’s the same as how other services and services users would… that’s their options to take.
I am a user of Alpha, and I am a real person. I did found some funny funny sites on display and I dropped by, commented and… So what Alpha does, it helps in a way to locate funny sites or relevant sites like yours. Ie. the more users watching Alpha, the more exposure you got.
If I were to click ‘Next’ and land in your blog, it might not suit my taste, but while I click ‘next’ in 5s, your blog should have 1 hit. Will you condemn this hit? Will you condemn browsing?
Pal, I can understand because we all want readers, want friends and all of us hope the world can accept our works or blogging as they appreciate Obama but… we cannot omit the reality of things. Blogging is after all blogging.
I have to go for now. Real happy to talk to you, you know. You are also a real reader of my rubbish here.
Scope.
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@whenpandasattack
If you’re looking for people to find your blog by randomly clicking things or watching blogs flash up on Alpha Inventions, you’re not like me. You want hits; I want readers. Let’s agree to disagree about Alpha Inventions and see how this plays out over the next few months.I’m with you.
@scope
It’s been a long time since we chatted. I want alphainventions to create an OPT OUT NOW! But hey you can visit my blog any old time. ;-) -
@TimeThief: No problem,pretty. I’d drop by now. Gosh~ I am busy looking at pretty faces at Last.fm and almost no time for other things online.
About Alpha, my stance is people may have gotten too excited. For me, opt out or not, doesn’t matter. But I do respect the wish of those who have different concerns. No hard feelings, mates~
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http://alphainventions.com/block <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< this thing is not even working.i still get hits.HEEEEEEEELLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.ALPHA INVENTION IS STUPIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.STUPIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.
STUPIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDD.
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You seem to be experiencing a problem with your keyboard. Perhaps you should get that looked at first.
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wrawos: that’s what i felt when my blog was in Alphainvention for TWICE before it finally got removed. now i feel a lot better, like a being healthy again after a severe disease. heh.
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i’m with whenpandaattack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alpha invention is stupidddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd -
liyananaznim:I KNOW!aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!i want my blog to be removed nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww from Alpha invenntion.
blehhhh
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Yo Cheru!
How come your wordpress blog no more? Now want to comment the system asks me for google account…?
Sorry, handsome… I was out of this forum for ages. LOL~I don’t remember my google account and now I am keep cold turkey from your ‘house’.
Scope.
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