Please Reinstate the Option of Choice to Use the Old Publishing Format
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“New and Improved” is only true if there is actually something new and improved about your product. The “new” screen editor is a travesty, and do we really need “beep beep boop” to let us know it’s coming up. Perhaps that strikes a cord with some people, but I usually start looking for another way to edit my posts when I encounter that nonsense.
What we had works–why make the change?
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The hanging progress bar at the top of the page, whereby the the page/post is neither saved/published nor editable? – the only option to be the refresh of the page and the loss of the content?
Does this happen every time you use the New Editor (can you try to post a test page for example)?
No this does not happen every time.
I would say it has happened 3 times in the last 6 posts.
Last Friday was the first time I had used the new editor in earnest, as I always went back to the Classic previously. But as I could no longer do so (as far as I could tell), my hand was forced.
I am using Chrome Version 41.0.2272.89 m
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The thing I dislike about it most, is the lack of left hand side menu bar – and you don’t seem to have responded on this point.
Once I have posted, I want to be able to then do other things. I can’t even work out how to get back to any kind of admin screen / or dashboard, or call it what you like.
I seem stuck in that last post with nowhere to go other than:
– My profile
– A list of my sites
– Some stats
– Create a new postWhat if I want then work with Widgets, or Media, or Links, or Comments, or Feedback, or Appearance, or Users, or Tools, or Settings?
I would normally select one of these from the menu on the left and carry on working away.
I seem stuck on the post I just published, with ‘nowhere to go’.
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@All
The Classic Editor will continue to exist in wp-admin (we have no plans to remove it). However, a link to the Classic Editor will not return to the New Editor.
Seems a done deal then folks.
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@jeremeylduvall why? to this “However, a link to the Classic Editor will not return to the New Editor.” What is the big deal? You are getting complaint after complaint about the new editor from people who are actually creating content, and yet, that is being ignored. I am a developer myself and if I saw this type of feedback, I would be bringing back that link. If you aren’t getting rid of the classic editor, what is the big deal to not have it? Why not let your users decide what they wish to use. Obviously, some are fans of the beep-beep-boop infantile editor, others just go with the flow or give up in disgust (and go elsewhere) and some of us are vocal on the forums.
The question you shouldn’t be asking is why we like the classic editor so much but why we dislike the new one so much. Obviously, the feedback here is going nowhere.
Comments like “Personally, I rarely find myself using post revisions.” speaks volumes about how the engineers used WP vs the actual end users.
The new editor doesn’t have all of the bells and whistles that the classic editor has – I do not have a full screen, I am cramped to posting my blogs into a tiny space and I need a full screen. I do not post my blogs on a phone or mobile device.
the beep-beep-boop editor is for mobile devices, it seems. So just have that for them. Leave the classic editor for those of us who are serious about blogging content.
thank you
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The Classic Editor will continue to exist in wp-admin (we have no plans to remove it). However, a link to the Classic Editor will not return to the New Editor.
Standard Automattic / WordPress.COM attitude for some time – nothing new – that is why I am not saying much about the Blue Death editor, nor bothering to try and help anyone that gets screwed by the Blue Death Editor – let the staff say “sorry your hours of work is gone with a known bug”
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Yesterday another “Happiness” Engineer (@thatrobyn) informed me in Staff Answers that the link from the Beep Boop editor to the Classic Editor would be restored.
(Note to self: Look up WP’s definition of Happiness Engineer)
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I’m with @musicdoc1 regarding revisions. It’s useful for me because I usually start a draft by just typing out my flow of thought, and then usually reformulate my ideas in an entirely different way, and so sometimes, it’s useful to have that option to look back on that rough draft, it’s a useful way to reflect on one’s writing process and improve.
If Revisions are not there by default, then maybe have it as an option that can be enabled?
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I would say it has happened 3 times in the last 6 posts.
50% isn’t a very good percentage at all. I’ll take a look!
Once I have posted, I want to be able to then do other things. I can’t even work out how to get back to any kind of admin screen / or dashboard, or call it what you like.
Right now, after you publish a post, the best flow to adjust other items would be to click “My Sites” in the top left-hand corner. That should automatically select the site you just published to by default. From that screen, you can adjust menu items, view other posts/pages, and customize the appearance (including widgets). Ideally, you should be able to manage most aspects of your site without visiting wp-admin.
The question you shouldn’t be asking is why we like the classic editor so much but why we dislike the new one so much. Obviously, the feedback here is going nowhere.
I realize it feels that way as some of the feedback (restore the Classic Editor link, for example) isn’t being acted upon. However, I promise the feedback is going places, and I’m reading through every single reply looking specifically for what you dislike about the New Editor.
I do not have a full screen
Within the Visual Editor, you should have the fullscreen/distraction-free writing mode available here:
Would that work for what you’re looking for?
Yesterday another “Happiness” Engineer (@thatrobyn) informed me in Staff Answers that the link from the Beep Boop editor to the Classic Editor would be restored.
I apologize for the confusion. The link to the Classic Editor will not be restored.
I’m with @musicdoc1 regarding revisions. It’s useful for me because I usually start a draft by just typing out my flow of thought, and then usually reformulate my ideas in an entirely different way, and so sometimes, it’s useful to have that option to look back on that rough draft, it’s a useful way to reflect on one’s writing process and improve.
If Revisions are not there by default, then maybe have it as an option that can be enabled?Interesting! We’ll take a second look at including this in the New Editor again. Thanks for the explanation!
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@jeremeylduvall
I posted the same thing into this thread that I posted into another one which was responded to by lizthefair at https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/wordpresscom-please-stop-spamming-messages-to-use-the-new-system?replies=15#post-2315910 and I replied to here there. Consequently, there is no need for you to reply to me in this thread. -
The Classic Editor will continue to exist in wp-admin. We know some users prefer to use this editor, so we want you to have access to it, instead of phasing it out with the new version of the Dashboard. However, a link to the Classic Editor will not return to the New Editor. From: https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/when-editing-an-old-post-how-do-i-switch-to-the-classic-editor?replies=5#post-2316097
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OK – I have nothing to say to so-called Happiness Engineers, so I’ll concentrate on those who matter.
I know this is not a fix for editing old posts, but this does help with new posts and will allow them to be edited with the classic editor.
1. Start a New Post via the Classic Editor (I guess you all have this as a bookmark now)
2. Before typing anything else, just type EDIT
3. Save as Draft (this is needed to get the post id)
4. Copy the link from your browser address bar
5 Make EDIT into a link using the URL you have just copied.
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Right now, after you publish a post, the best flow to adjust other items would be to click “My Sites” in the top left-hand corner. That should automatically select the site you just published to by default. From that screen, you can adjust menu items, view other posts/pages, and customize the appearance (including widgets). Ideally, you should be able to manage most aspects of your site without visiting wp-admin.
OK, thanks for that info. That is clear.
Still don’t understand the need to change it.What is the E2E design process at WP?
Who is it that defines what changes should/will be made?
Are the end users ever consulted before change is designed?
Shouldn’t the end users actually drive change?
Are all changes cost justified?
And does each change drive a benefit?Sorry if you have covered this already, but why again was the editor completely re-designed?
This is all very peculiar.
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@jeremeylduvall I dislike the distraction mode editor in either modes!! I find it to be more distracting when it is on than not on.
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While I don’t use the revisions page often, it is a lifesaver when it is needed. I will continue using the classic editor for this reason as well as the ease to add categories and tags and the overall look (the new one is too-blue to use). I also use numeric tags that the “new” editor doesn’t recognize.
Also, no response to my comment about the number of bloggers unaware of the elimination of the link back to the classic editor because they haven’t deleted their cookies yet.
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I am so confused. We are / we aren’t getting access to the Classic Editor. We can or we can’t bookmark links. We do or we do not get to this or that . . . .
Here are a couple of key questions:
1. When I am signed in and on my posts page and looking at the ‘edit’ button on the top of a post that I have already published:
Do I only now go to the new editor?
Or is there a possibility that I will again be able to click that edit button and return to the classic editor?
This makes a difference to whether I remain with WordPress.2. If the answer is I only get to go to the new editor, is there going to be:
i) a quick post function (as there is in the classic editor
ii) a list of posts (as there is in the classic editor)
iii) an opportunity to move the post from, say, a Big Slider to an Editor’s PIck and so on?
iv) I believe that on my Outspoken (premium) theme, the big slider check-off box doesn’t even appear on the new dashboard – so what would you suggest I do? (check in with Shroote, the developer if you’d like to know more about what disappears when you impose the new dashboard) -
@jeremyduvall Just to add to my post, I just checked and the new editor does NOT have access to the edit functions available on the classic editor that I need when I re-edit posts on my fairly complex blog theme (Outspoken). I cannot take a blog post out of the Big Slider, for example, because the check-off box for Big Slider, Editor’s Picks, and other functions does not exist in the new dashboard.
Because I have been blogging on http://canadianartjunkie.com since the summer of 2011, there are a lot of posts. I often dig up good posts from the archive (something the WordPress gurus suggest we do). And to do that, I often have to rearrange new and old posts on the front page. To do that, I go to the post — often a year or more back — and click edit, then put the post in the slider, the editor’s picks or another spot on the front page. Now, with the new dashboard, that easy function is no longer available – which is really dumb.
It means I have to go to wp-admin, scroll back through dozens and dozens, sometimes hundreds, of posts, find the post, and edit it that way – a complete waste of time.
If these matters don’t make sense to you Happiness Engineers, please ask a blogger who actually uses the system.
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OK – this is for dedicated WP users only – not Happiness Engineers….
There is still a way of getting to the Classic Editor from Beep Beep Boop without having to install add-ons or scripts. Anyone interested?
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There is still a way of getting to the Classic Editor from Beep Beep Boop without having to install add-ons or scripts. Anyone interested?
Sure. Post it please.
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