Please Reinstate the Option of Choice to Use the Old Publishing Format
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Ha ha ha OK. This works for me.
1. Begin editing your post with Beep Beep Boop. Dont change anything!
2. Preview.
3. Go backwards on page. Preview seems to hang….
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@ jeremeyduvall,
I said,the lack of an admin bar is a pretty striking omission.
You said,
To be clear, the Admin bar was not omitted. You can see it at the top of the page here:
I was referring to the admin menu bar, or whatever it’s called — I’ve never known the proper name for it, and have never found a support page specifically dealing with it — at the left margin of the classic dashboard. Despite WordPress apparently having so little regard for it that they haven’t created a support page for it, and have eliminated it from all of the new administrative pages: My Sites (new stats page), Reader, Customizer, for me it is the most important collection of links/tools available in the dashboard area. It is available from the classic post and pages edits, the widgets page, the menus and header customization pages, etc.
There is nothing remotely comparable to it in the new administrative pages: Reader, My Sites, Customizer. Certainly this: http://d.pr/i/9mgR is not going to replace it.
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I was referring to the admin menu bar, or whatever it’s called — I’ve never known the proper name for it
I think most refer to that as the (classic) dashboard menu or sidebar.
I made this exact same argument last year when the Beep Beep Boop editor first became the default. The new editor is completely divorced from the rest of the dashboard, so you can’t directly edit any other features while editing a post. Back then a staff member told me I’d made a good point and they’d pass it along to the developers. It doesn’t seem that the developers agreed on it being a good point.
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@kokkieh
Horses for courses. I have 40 or 50 posters who would baulk at installing a script. Personally I use the add-on.One reason why I put this method on, was the message that WP put up when Beep Beep Boop is taking a while to Preview:
“Tired of waiting?”
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Thanks kokkieh. There is a blindness here that is startling. Makes one wonder if any of the staff have ever actively engaged in website creation using WordPress.com.
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This entire thread and the changes that prompted it remind me of Matt Mullenweg’s presentation “State of the Word 2011” in which he spoke of WP’s reliance on our “desire paths” to determine the company’s direction. He likened it to paving the impromptu paths created by students on a college campus, rather than building sidewalks where the college thought students ought to walk (only to learn later that no one used them). A wise concept, now seemingly forgotten. These days WP is paving its own paths. Desire paths no longer matter.
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@knashermac2009
IMO that there will be no easy way to get to the classic editor when creating posts or editing existing ones provided by Staff.Many new users who are not aware there are two editors register every day.
There are probably thousands or even tens of thousands of abandoned blogs.
Most active wp.com bloggers will not post to the support forums and complain about the change and the “improved experience” they aren’t enjoying. They will just suck it up and cope. Granted some may post to the support forums when they cannot recover a post made in the new editor because it is only saved on their browsers. But IMO most won’t even if they are angry about losing a post.
IMO Staff are committed to what I refer to as responding to our requests to provide the link to the classic editor in the new editor by responding with what I refer to as “market speak”, because they have no intention of doing what we request. Their words make it clear that they are aiming to promote the use of the new editor as a new product for improved blogging experience (as if!) and that’s what they will do come hell or high water.
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@ jeremeyduvall,
However, the Admin bar now matches the one you see across WordPress.com rather than the one present at wp-admin.
How could http://d.pr/i/9mgR be a replacement for, or considered in any way comparable to http://snag.gy/qJ5Ye.jpg? It’s not apples and oranges, it’s apples and wing nuts.
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I made this exact same argument last year when the Beep Beep Boop editor first became the default. The new editor is completely divorced from the rest of the dashboard, so you can’t directly edit any other features while editing a post. Back then a staff member told me I’d made a good point and they’d pass it along to the developers. It doesn’t seem that the developers agreed on it being a good point.
Yep.
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@ timethief,
Good points.Many new users who are not aware there are two editors register every day…
There are probably thousands or even tens of thousands of abandoned blogs.This is precisely what I thought when staff member Jeremey said yesterday :
As we’ve continued to add to and improve the new editor, we are seeing very low usage of the link back to the Classic Editor.
The average active WP user might have only been here a month or two. They don’t know about the classic dashboard, in part because evidently members who joined after a certain date are delivered at log in to the Reader or My Sites (I forget which), places that some of us have little or no use for. They also will be unaware of the dashboard sidebar menu, the custom header, background, and menus pages, to mention a few of the most important pages which are now effectively hidden from new WordPress.com users.
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And, I should have added, they (relatively new members) might have easily missed that link to the classic editor in the new editor. Therefore they don’t miss it now that it’s gone.
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OK Here is another (easier) way of getting to the Classic Editor.
1. Begin editing your post with Beep Beep Boop. Dont change anything!
2. Right-click on the “Preview” button and select “View Page Source”
3. Scroll down, or search for “Tired of waiting”. Ta-Dah! -
Revisions will not be included in the New Editor. Could you let us know how often you find yourself using revisions and the circumstance that causes you to revert to a revision? Personally, I rarely find myself using post revisions.
Writers typically keep the original manuscript, the second revision where they extensively reformulated the argument, the third where they added some new insights they hadn’t thought of previously, the fourth where they corrected some errors of logic, the fifth where they eliminated the grammatical and spelling errors, etc., etc.
Revisions are not needed in all cases, but even reproducing a lost grocery list is a waste of time.
Disposing of revisions is like, and as perilous and foolish as, attempting to live without the benefit of history.
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Was so astonished when I read that revisions was going, that I clean forgot to comment on it.
The amount of times revisions has saved my bacon…
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For some reason today the “classic” editing mode is unavailable, at least from the computer I am using at work. How can I realiably post in the old “classic” format? The new “beep bop boop” format is totally inflexible and a royal pain in the dupa.
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For some reason today the “classic” editing mode is unavailable, at least from the computer I am using at work. How can I realiably post in the old “classic” format? The new “beep bop boop” format is totally inflexible and a royal pain in the dupa.
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I probably use revisions more often than I modify posts. My 40 or 50 posters frequently make cock-ups of their posts and ask me to correct it.
Couldn’t do it without revisions.
I really do despair when “developers” ask “Why do you do such-and-such?”.
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