Please Reinstate the Option of Choice to Use the Old Publishing Format
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Okay, I don’t like the new editor either, but I can learn to use it. But what I really already am missing (and don’t see an option for it) is how to change the color of the text. I used different colors for Dialog.
Would you please make that possible again?
I realize it could be done in Html, but … I am really not that good in that – nor do I have the time to change that manually there. -
@ pharmama
You are asking to use a feature that was removed from the classic editor previously. See here please https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/the-paste-as-word-button-has-been-removed-from-the-visual-editor?replies=8#post-1712699 -
Commonsense says that not offering a choice is stubborness … and very short-sighted. I can’t believe higher level management would support this. And that the best business course is always to keep as many customers “happy” as possible.
Sadly not, in my experience. The best business course is to keep as many customer happy as makes financial sense. Sadly this seldom results in minorities being ignored / excluded from thought processes and long term plans. Every business I have dealt with seems happy to let a certain number of customers remain unhappy, for the greater good, or the bigger picture.
Higher level management will always support what makes most money and attracts the most new business, so long as more new business is attracted, than old business lost.
I believe that we are a minority. There may also be a silent majority who share our views. But coersing them into action is nigh on impossible.
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@jermeylduvall
Does using the new editor cause timing out before your post is complete like this blogger is reporting?From https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/what-is-with-this-double-spacing?replies=6#post-2320076
Thank you, I understand this, but I´m afraid that if I write directly into the word press editor thing it won´t auto save what I´m writing if I take too long.
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@hopnut ….
“Higher level management will always support what makes most money and attracts the most new business, so long as more new business is attracted, than old business lost.”
This is exactly my point, Why lose ANY customers if offering a choice keeps BOTH. This is what I don’t understand. There can’t be any advantage to WordPress to insist on a platform which clearly many people do not want. WHy? The whole premise of free enterprise is that choices are offered. That’s how business thrives.
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@musicdoc1
Read and understood … I am so sad. :(As you know I do not blogs for bucks. I am a hobby blogger who blogs blog for pleasure and I pay to keep ads off my blogs.
I started answering support questions very early on and loved helping other bloggers learn how to do what I basically taught myself to do as there were no support docs back then when raincoaster and I came on board. I was jubilant back then because I am in remission and committed to the 50% – 50% principle ie. volunteering wherever one can to help others 50% of the time. I became progressively challenged and as I could not volunteer locally due to mobility and vision issues I fit in here because I could be of service to others online.
If anyone would have told me this hobby, which brought me such enjoyment and so many friends would lead me to tears after 8 years (nearly 9) into it, I would not have believed them, but that is where I am at today. I simply cannot bear any more of this.
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There can’t be any advantage to WordPress to insist on a platform which clearly many people do not want.
I think they think the majority do want it. I think they think it is better.
I think they think we are a small minority of narrow minded individuals who do not like change and have specific needs that are not shared by the majority.I think they may be wrong on all counts, and certainly on the latter.
What they don’t want is to run two versions of the same platform in the long term.
In my opinion they made a massive mistake in the design of the New Ed. They have gone as far as implementation now. This is not the first time I have seen a poorly designed solution reach implementation stage through poor leadership, management and stakeholder engagement, and it wont be the last. But it is rarely backed out.
More likely is a New Ed v2.0 in the mid to long term future, and lots of laughing and guffawing at the New Ed 1.0 when they look back and reminisce.
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re: numeric tags see:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/new-improved-edit-interface-is-still-deleting-numeric-tags?replies=63
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/why-does-the-new-editor-delete-numeric-tags?replies=2Ah, thanks. Numeric tags.. as in, numeric tags.. of course.
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is there a physical location for wordpress? somewhere someone could go visit and speak to an actual human being? or a phone? why not flood them emails?
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@hopnut
Many years ago I was involved in various civil rights issues What I learned was that very very few people will speak up about an issue which may have enormous public support. No one wants to stick their neck out. But when someone does stand up, then change can and often does happen. A canny politician knows that those “three letters to the Editor” don’t represent merely three people … they represent thousands.The beautiful Bois de Liesse in Montreal was salvaged from powerful developers by four people … two retired elementary school teachers, one unemployed and a music teacher. Today it still remains, a jewel of natural beauty in the heart of Montreal island. Three women in Bombay defied police orders to stop obstructing a crew sawing down a huge tree … and today every tree over thirty years old in that city is numbered and protected. A single woman lay down behind a truck spraying herbicides in a suburb of Montreal …. got arrested … but won her case. Spraying in Montreal stopped … and later bans were extended across Canada.
The number of protesters were unbelievably small. The results enormous. What is important is not the number of voices, but the validity of the arguments they raise.
Is it worth it? You bet. I never forgot that memorable line spoken by Antigone in the ancient Greek Sophocles drams. When challenged and told she’s going to fail …. she responds …
Then I shall have TRIED and failed.
You rock, Antigone!
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Yes, well that’s all very nice. But change does not happen every time a minority speaks up. Only occasionally. And rarely in business.
In business, it’s $$ that counts, and if you don’t bring them in, you don’t last very long. And that’s what drives every business decision. Every. Single. One. Everything comes back to that.
It’s called private enterprise.
Call me cynical, but I have worked in business just too damn long…
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If it’s $$ that counts …. I would say more subscribers would mean more money. And more choice produces more business. Right now I wouldn’t consider upgrading … and I have five busy blogs.
No one has adequately answered the very simple question. Why would choice be less profitable than only one ( not very good) option.
Because some developers want it and won’t back down … that’s the only anwer I’ve seen. And it doesn’t cut the cake.
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@ timethief, Mar 20, 2015, 1:12 PM (page 13)
The comments in this thread reporting this, that or the other undesired behavior in the new editor, or missing features found in the new editor simply provides all the fodder that Staff need to co-opt them into developing an editor those posting here do not want or need.
I agree, but I don’t see how this leads to conceding defeat being the only resort, or a good idea. We could start a new thread which aims to focus on the two objectives you state later in the same post:
This thread may have been effective if and only if those who posted into it simply stated :
(1) I do not like the new editor and do not want to use the new editor.
(2) I want the link to the classic editor that has been removed restored because the removal has caused me unnecessary stress and wasted time.Though I’ve been drawn into discussion of particular aspects of the new editor in this thread, it has not been with the goal of assisting WP with making minor modifications that would make it slightly more appealing. On principle, I have no intention of using the new editor no matter how they tweak it, since the resentment toward having something that I’ve rejected, made very clear by my usage history and comments that do not want anything to do with, foisted upon me will not soon dissipate.
I think the record will show that I’ve been consistent for months in expressing my dislike for the new editor, and my intention to have nothing to do with it. My goal here and elsewhere when commenting upon it has not been to inform WP on how to tweak it a little to make it more to my liking, and I’m sorry if it might have had this effect.
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@ timethief,
Clearly the battle to have Staff restore the link to the classic editor to the new editor has been lost, just like every battle that came before it.
I know that it’s been clearly stated in this thread that WP has no intention of restoring the link to the classic editor, but a couple of days ago you provided a link to a recent topic in which a “Happiness Engineer” stated that removing the link was a mistake and that it would be restored. I’ll see if I can find it.
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I’m chuckling a bit here. Perhaps removing the link was a mistake and we’ve all been sitting here madly spinning our wheels over a problem which doesn’t exist. That would be funny.
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