Please Reinstate the Option of Choice to Use the Old Publishing Format
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However, if for some reason you must visit that wasteland — e.g. to see if it’s gotten any worse — GM can be disabled with a click, and enabled again with another click.
That’s exactly what I do. Great, isn’t it?
A “you’re welcome” to everyone.
I’m going to start making a page to aggregate all these workarounds. I’ll make a post here when it’s done. -
Well, Galois, I ‘do’ owe you a thanks in that case. It was a whirl last night, so there’s no way I am going to keep perfect track of who said what. What helped me most was what helped me actually fix my problem. I think WP is probably making a lot of us a little antsy. If I’m blunt sometimes, Don’t give it too much weight. That’s just the Vulcan in me.
Dandelionsalad: Your post showed up late and out of sequence -? But thanks. It looks like I did. I can always return here and check over these posts if I think I didn’t fix things. I assume I did. The disappearing scroll button, which signalled to me that there was a problem, has disappeared, therefore I assume that the script was inserted when I clicked on the link with my editor open.
I think I’ll just bookmark this thread as well. That will stand in until tempen gets around to giving us a page of workarounds. WP oughta pay that person. ;-) Better yet, Give that person, and the other volunteer helpers here, the job of managing WP, along with the nice salaries.
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As I now know you and the whole crew of WordPress.COM Staff are committed to this project, may I please have straight answers to these questions:
1. Is the long term game plan to develop the new editor here at WordPress.COM and then bundle that new editor into WordPress.ORG software installs in the future?
2. If the answer is yes (don’t equivocate please) then will WordPress.ORG software users be able to remove it from their installs and use the TinyMCE editor instead?
That is not the plan at the moment as far as I know. The New Editor is being developed for WordPress.com although you can use it to add posts to your self-hosted sites provided they’re connected through Jetpack.
Does using the new editor cause timing out before your post is complete like this blogger is reporting?
From https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/what-is-with-this-double-spacing?replies=6#post-2320076
It looks like the thread you mentioned is regarding spacing. If by “timing out” you mean the post errors upon saving/publishing, I have seen a few reports of this, but I’ve been unable to reproduce it despite publishing 50+ test posts to various blogs. Still digging though!
The Support docs are no help any longer as the New Dash isn’t really mentioned there in any depth and when it is, there are screenshots that are 2 years old.
That’s a great point. We need to update quite a few of those screenshots. We have some efforts organized around this, but there are a ton of docs to update. We’ll get them updated as soon as we can.
To my knowledge there has been no response to these arguments, and the latest post by jeremeyduvall suggests that the subtopic isn’t even among of the major ones being presently considered.
I believe this is in reference to the Post Revisions. If so, Revisions will not be coming into the New Editor.
But what I really already am missing (and don’t see an option for it) is how to change the color of the text. I used different colors for Dialog.
Would you please make that possible again?This option is still available in the New Editor. You can see it here:
If you don’t see that button, can you try pressing the toolbar toggle (the other button pointed out in the top right-hand corner of the menu)?
Can’t get back to the old editor.
The easiest way to get back to the Old Editor is to use the /wp-admin after your site URL like this:
http://example.wordpress.com/wp-admin
For me, the new editor won’t scroll, so I can see only ONE LINE of what I’ve typed.
Can you let me know what post (title) you’re in when you’re experiencing this? Even if the editor is having trouble scrolling, you should be able to see more than one line. Also, can you let me know what browser you’re using and version (visit whatismybrowser.com)?
I can’t post photos.
The Add Media button should still be in the New Editor here:
Is it not appearing on your side or not working?
I can’t find my drafts (all planned for future posts)
You can find the posts here:
https://wordpress.com/posts/wallpaperlady.wordpress.com
There are toggles at the top to switch between Published posts, Drafts, and Scheduled posts (clock).
I wonder if anyone from WP even reads these forums??
Yep! I promise.
Oh, yeah, I can’t edit, either.
Could you please elaborate on what you mean by “can’t edit”?
And my copy is all messed up – no spaces between the photos, so you cant tell one from the other.
That’s certainly frustrating. If you save the draft, do the paragraph spaces return? From my experience, the spacing isn’t actually gone, but rather, it’s temporarily removed when moving from the Old Editor to the new one. Certainly not intended! We have other reports of this here:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/editor-regularly-loses-paragraph-breaks?replies=1#post-2230632
Looking into this!
How do we report faults?
The best thing would be to open your own thread following the link here:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/?new=1
Or, you can email help@wordpress.com directly. I’m trying to catch everything in this thread, but I may miss something inadvertently.
For 45 minutes my last post was reduced to gobbledegook while I manually sorted the mess out. I even changed the status to “draft” in the new editor while I was doing this and it remained published.
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/editor-regularly-loses-paragraph-breaks?replies=1#post-2230632
Thanks David! Looking into the paragraph spacing. Regrading the status of the post, you updated the post each time. Correct?
Not only does it take my recipes and put the listed ingredients into PARAGRAPH form!
Are you copying and pasting from elsewhere?
I can no longer UNDERLINE a word, I can no longer CHANGE TEXT TO COLORED TEXT (unacceptabe)
This should be fixed up by using the toolbar toggle as @hopnut suggested. (Thanks @hopnut!)
the categories aren’t showing for simple checking off
Could you elaborate a bit more here? I’m not sure exactly what you mean.
Apparently, p tags will automatically be inserted for you in list items…
Good to know. If someone with editing capabilities could please remove the p tags, it would be greatly appreciated.Done.
My scroll button only goes a short distance. If the post is long, I’ve got to use my mouse wheel. I couldn’t resize the page. Actually, I couldn’t find the bottom of my post!
Just to make sure I understand correctly – after a certain point, you can’t scroll down any further. Is that correct? What happens if you put your cursor in the text field and use the down arrow key?
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For God’s sake this would be so easy to correct. A single line of code that allowed the user to choose by which method and editor he would like to make his or her post.
If this were the marketplace, or a business, the idea of imposing upon your customer, client, or user a choice they find distasteful, inefficient, and functionless would be suicide. And the idea of making your customer, client, or user wade through a large number of entirely pointless steps to correct a “problem” that should have never existed in the first place is utterly ridiculous and juvenile.
There is a certain distasteful arrogance to the modern Geek that borders on a desire to be a petty tyrant. Look ma, I’m powerful! Technology – BOOM!
This is simply a programmer or group of programmers with a month-long hard bone to gnaw, doesn’t matter whether it is infected and full of maggots or not. It’s his to gnaw and tough luck everybody else, get your own maggot-filled bone to gnaw.
In the time it took some code-writer or technician or board-monitor to read this complaint (or any of the other complaint son this easy to resolve matter) some clever code-writer could have devised a simple line of code to install at the top of the editor that allows the user to choose “Classic Editor” as their editor of choice. As a matter of fact a clever or smart code writer who cared about the end-user would do that very thing. Immediately.
Case closed.
This ain’t rocket-science boys and girls.
This is mere psychological and professional pettiness to make a juvenile point.
Bravo Einsteins. Technology – BOOM!!!
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@jeremeylduvall
Thanks, but you missed some. There are still p tags in the second paragraph of the first list item (after the nested list) and in the two paragraphs of the second item.
Here’s the link to the post for easy access.
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@jeremeylduvall
Thanks for answering my questions. No matter how disappointed and even angry I feel regarding the unannounced and unwelcome changes know that I do appreciate everything else Support Staff do. -
@ jeremeyduvall,
It’s understandable that some topics raised in this very large thread might be overlooked or forgotten, but let’s try to be straight on those we do address. You said, immediately above,
I believe this is in reference to the Post Revisions. If so, Revisions will not be coming into the New Editor.
It’s unclear why belief enters the picture. There was nothing ambiguous about the statements I made to which you are responding. On page 7, you said,
Revisions will not be included in the New Editor. Could you let us know how often you find yourself using revisions and the circumstance that causes you to revert to a revision? Personally, I rarely find myself using post revisions.
On page 13 I summarized some of the responses which had been made relevant to your request for feedback on frequency of use of revisions, and circumstances in which revisions are used, saying,
On page 8, I made a brief argument against this elimination, here, which I followed with a list of common circumstances in which I use revisions on page 9.
Other objections to this change immediately followed (on pages 8,9). Those voicing opinions regarding the importance of revisions to their work include hopnut, knashermac2009, windwhistle, and timethief.
So several members made arguments on pages 8 and 9 which countered your suggestion that revisions were little used and therefore dispensable, and responded to your request (originally made specifically to me) for feedback regarding frequency of use and circumstances of use of revisions. Some of us provided the requested information, each arguing, based upon our own individual experience, that revisions were extremely important, an essential feature in our normal work flow. This is what has not been responded to. We’re not asking for, and will not be satisfied with, a simple yes or no answer to the question of whether revisions will be retained.
Unless I’ve missed something there have been no individual responses to the arguments in favor of revisions, nor any overall response to the position that revisions is an essential feature of the post editor.
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And of course there is no answer to the frequently asked question “what harm would it do to bring back the link”.
This after all was the main purpose of this thread. It wasn’t supposed to be a list of complaints about the (expletive deleted) new editor.
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I have ask why anyone cares about what is, or is not included in the New Editor, or is to be included in the future, if no-one has any intention of using the damned thing.
Either put a link from the new editor to the classic, or explain why not, for those who are interested.
This is the crux of it.Personally, I will continue to take the (fairly short) short cut, of maintaining and creating all content via the All Pages and All Posts pages, until such time as a link back is added.
..and even then, thinking about it for just a moment, I am not certain which is quicker anyway.. going via the New Editor and clicking the link back, or going in via All Pages/All Posts. Once I am in this habit, I imagine I will never again end up at the pesky New Editor, and so will never use said link (back).
So, provide a link back or don’t.. I doubt I shall ever use it.
Just don’t ever, ever, ever direct the Add New, or Edit links in the All Posts/All Pages pages, to the New Editor. If this happens, I shall leave.
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@ hopnut,
I have ask why anyone cares about what is, or is not included in the New Editor, or is to be included in the future, if no-one has any intention of using the damned thing.
By demonstrating concern regarding what features have been excised in the next generation of editor we do not necessarily indicate that we intend or want to use the new editor. If WP finds that revisions, categories, tags, etc. are inessential features for the new editor without encountering strong argument against such mutilation, what’s to stop them from removing these same features from the old editor?
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@ hopnut,
I am not certain which is quicker anyway.. going via the New Editor and clicking the link back, or going in via All Pages/All Posts.
Both of those options are scenic routes, unnecessarily long and time-consuming. Scripts provided by tpenguinltg, requiring only a light browser add-on, effectively redirect links going to the new editor back to the classic editor. These simply installed workarounds ensure that you are never forced to visit the new editor even for a second anymore. I’ve only tried the Greasemonkey option. The redirect is quick, virtually instantaneous, and you never see the new editor.
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Correction: Apparently it’s only one script, assisted by different add-on for each type of browser: Firefox, Google Chrome, Safari, and IE. See tpenguinltg’s summary, here.
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For 45 minutes my last post was reduced to gobbledegook while I manually sorted the mess out. I even changed the status to “draft” in the new editor while I was doing this and it remained published.
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/editor-regularly-loses-paragraph-breaks?replies=1#post-2230632
Thanks David! Looking into the paragraph spacing. Regrading the status of the post, you updated the post each time. Correct?<blockquote>
Correct, I did resave as draft in the new editor and it remained published. Thanks.
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