Please Reinstate the Option of Choice to Use the Old Publishing Format

  • Unknown's avatar

    @hopnut

    and while they’re at it, an “modify post” function in the forum would be a ‘quick win’.

    Oh gawd no! We have been there and it was an insane gong show and ongoing spam fest with continual abuse of epic proportions. Imagine that one blogger insults another and then edits to remove the insult from the thread. The insulted blogger goes wild … now stir some kids and trolls into that ugly picture. No, no no! Staff do not bring back the edit function on the support forums – please.

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    I only meant to edit your own posts…
    As per, every other forum I frequent..

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    I know what you meant but I still say no … been there and done that and it was a catastrophe. We used to have an Off Topic discussion forum and a Showcase forum for promoting posts but they were also abused. Gawd forbid that we should ever have those 3 again.

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    The classic editor does not seem to be available on my ipad and I HATE THE NEW ONE. HATE IT. I can’t add images to my featured slider with it, which will make using my ipad useless.

    This will make me move my blog. I hate the new editor.Oh, I already said that?

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    Some weeks blogging hiatus and I come back to find out that they do again try to force us to use the downgraded editor. I was shocked when I noticed they removed the link to the classic editor. Oh my..

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    And still the question remains unanswered. The basic question. Which is WHY can we not be given a choice?

    What is the reason behind this obstinance? We get a whole lot of subterfuge and talking around this point, but never a clear and concise answer. The whole issue could be solved with the reinstatement of ONE simple button allowing us to choose the Classic.

    I don’t buy the “good for business” offered by some posters here as an answer. How can alienating a portion of your users possibly be good for business? The teenage tweeters who don’t write more than an abbreviated sentence at a time can have the new editor Those of us who actually write REAL blogs, need the old format.

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    And still the question remains unanswered. The basic question. Which is WHY can we not be given a choice?

    Obstinacy… they can’t get used to the fact that probably quite a lot of people still used the link to get back to the classic editor. I mean, they didn’t even publish the stats when they had this poll running back then. Why did they not? I assume because the results were not in their favour.

    And then you see staff answers like this one…

    As we’ve continued to add to and improve the new editor, we are seeing very low usage of the link back to the Classic Editor.

    Sure thing. I have never seen forum threads popping up with over 500 and up to 800 post count until they downgroaded the whole wordpress design.

    As many said here in the recent thread and in the related older threads, the solution was simple.. we got that “back to classic” link and everyone got used to one extra click. Now even that link is gone…

    Meanwhile WP VIP bloggers and WP enterprise bloggers can probably still use the good old editor. I am pretty much sure, Hence, the free plan users get forced to teen-tumblr-blog mode.

    It’s really sick what is going on here.

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    Professionalism certainly is in the toilet. I just fired up my computer and went to my gmail and found 25 additional comments since hitting the sack around 11am or something. I work nights. I read them all and I am appalled at the WP managers and those at WP foisting this crap on us. On top of all else that’s going on in the world – laws in France to shut down websites where there’s language that the 1%-connected authorities don’t like, the NSA seeing and knowing all that we do and becoming stupid as a result (find that needle in ‘this’ haystack!), the attack on journalism and whistleblowers which makes some bloggers’ work more important – this kick in the spheres by geeks was the last thing we real bloggers needed.

    Is anyone here going to blog about this? Also, I see angry announcements about leaving WP, but Are there alternatives that don’t dumb us down (and silence us) by virtue of being meager, feature-wise, rather than through malevolence, arrogance, immaturity and an absence of professionalism? Such announcements reflect a sentiment I share, but I try to never give in to anger and threaten. (And might not always succeed.) Also bravado can be damaging. I hate it when I see activists do it. “We will win!…” this or that victory. Just ‘do’, I say. Just ‘fight’. And honestly report. Because when the prophecy doesn’t come true, the followers abandon you.

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    For what it’s worth, when Beep Beep Boop first appeared, I created a blog at WordPress.org. I’m not using it because after ten days of wild uncertainty, it was announced that the classic editor would still be available here. Also, I wasn’t looking forward to importing over 5,000 posts to the new site, and possibly losing the functionality of the links that many posts make to others — all of which have urls here at WordPress.com.

    But things keep getting worse here. If the classic editor becomes unavailable, my current plan is to use my new org site as a utility to draft my posts, because they still have the classic editor. But I won’t post there. I can copy those drafts and post them here. That way I won’t have to move the blog, and I won’t have to use Beep Beep Boop either.

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    @sensuouscurmudgeon
    I did exactly the same thing and I’m in exactly the same position.

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    @LarryDuvall, thanks for your comments and suggestions.

    However, I STILL canNOT use the new editor – it will not scroll, neither with the mouse nor with the scroll bar, so I can only see part of what I’ve written before it gets lost at the bottom of the page. There are no tabs or toggles at the top, and I cannot access the bottom of the page (because it won’t scroll that far down) so I cna’t find the link to go back to the old editor that was mentioned above. That’s among MANY other points of frustration and dissatisfaction.

    I can’t post any new material. I have only posted the last few days by stumbling around until I find my drafts, and then publish a draft that was written before the new editor.

    Larry, your suggestion to go to .wordpress/wp-admin takes me only to a “quick draft” page, w/o even an option to publish, but only “save draft” and when I try to open the draft to work on it, there is that dad-blamed new editor.
    I am afraid to spend too much time with the new editor window open, because I don’t want my computer to put cookies that take me there, instead of the old one. The only way I can get to the old one is b/c my computer currently has cookies that take me to the old editor, when I click a new tab and it offers me choices of most-frequently-used sites.

    I have spent HOURS reading all 18 pages of posts here (when I should have been working, running my business), and understand precious little of it. I am not a computer person, so I don’t understand what you guys are talking about. I did know how to work the old, good WP Editor. Now I’m lost, and I can’t blog. I suspect that many of your bloggers are the same, and also don’t know how to find this forum and complain. You have no clue HOW MANY people are unhappy with this change.

    I am EXTREMELY upset. My blog is a MAJOR component of how clients find me, and the impression they get of me and their decision to hire me. Now that is removed.

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    @wallpaperlady:

    I suggest bookmarking this link: https://wallpaperlady.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post-new.php This will allow you to use the classic editor to make a new blog post.

    If you need to edit an older post or find a draft, go here: https://wallpaperlady.wordpress.com/wp-admin/edit.php

    Both of these links are available to you on the old (classic) dashboard. To get there, go to My Sites at the top left of the page, click on “WP Admin”. Scroll down on the sidebar on the left hand side of the dashboard, find Posts, hover over that and choose either “All Posts” or “Add New”.

    You never have to use the “new, Beep, Beep, Boop, too-blue, nonfunctional” editor again.

    You can also choose to install the script that tpenguinltg has made.

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    Thanks to tpenguinltg’s script, the situation for those who wish to avoid the new editor is better now than it’s been since last August when the new editor was introduced. Those still complaining that they can’t avoid the new editor have either not been paying attention or ignoring the solution.

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    have been either not paying attention, or ignoring the easy solution.

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    Evidently I was off by a month on the date. The “new” editor was introduced on WP.com websites no later than July 2, 2014 (PDT), the date on which perhaps the earliest forum threads on the new editor the topic were evidently started: Posting articles, Why can’t I post a new post. A dozen or so more threads on the topic were begun on July 3.

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    @DandilionSalad – thank you so much. That is easy to understand. Thanks for explaining, it, and, tomorrow, when I’m not bleary-eyed, I will test it out. :)

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    thewallpaperlady, you are most welcome. I do suggest using the script as it’s much better than what WP had before. That way you can edit an older post by clicking the edit button on the post, especially good for posts made a long time ago as you don’t have to search for them in All Posts through WP Admin.

    Truly WP should bring the link back for all users to choose between the 2 editors like this thread stated at the beginning.

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    I was spending an idle few minutes reading some WP blurb About publishing. After they mentioned how to post from the reader (noted that they didn’t mention the beep beep Boop) , they then said this….

    Another way to publish posts is in your dashboard by going to Posts >> Add New. This will pull up the Post Screen, which is where the magic will happen! This is the place to go when you want to publish something longer or more complex. This dashboard editor is similar to the editor in your Reader — it works a lot like your favorite word processing software, and you can insert a title and tags — but it allows you to do much more.

    So, there you have it. The classic editor is where you go if you want to do something longer or more complex (provided you can get it right first time). And it’s magic! That makes me feel so much better.

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    OK, so here is my suggestion which incidentally fits in perfectly with how WP describe the 2 different ways to publish.

    If you create a post from the reader (beep beep Boop) then subsequent edits continue to use the new editor.

    However, if you create a post from the Dashboard (classic editor) then subsequent edits continue to use the classic editor

    IMO this solution is both fair and logical. I really can’t see how WP could object to it since it is agreement with what WP are thinking.

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    @knashermac2009
    That Learn page hasn’t been updated since March 2013…

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