Please Reinstate the Option of Choice to Use the Old Publishing Format
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@thedangerousdream
@huntethan2012
Thank you both for your clear concise points and requests for classic editor one touch button back. I also wish to restate my request for the return of the classic editor button as the classic editor is superior for a good number of us bloggers.
This discussion is relevant and should be kept open, especially for those who are still lost with the new one to find and learn how to access the classic until our one touch button is returned. -
I noted with concern in the tags for this posting tonight that timethief ignored member requests not to close this thread and added:
“OP’s question has been answered”
This is certainly not true. As I am the “OP”, I can verify that my original concern has not been resolved.
Thank you everyone who contributed to this enlightening discussion.
The topic is appropriate in this forum because the new editor is malfunctioning and creating a host of technical problems and website glitches for users. Being a support issue, it needs to be resolved. The March 18 option is not a solution. It’s just another facet of this problem.
Reinstate the classic editor button.
Keep the classic editor.
Keep this discussion open.
Don’t give up or be deterred by WordPress volunteers or staff.
Obviously, from the pages of intelligent responses from users, this is the most pressing technical issue with the WordPress platform right now.and
@huntethan2012
a) reinstate the button for instant access to the classic editor
b) keep the classic editor
c) reward the millions of unpaid beta testers who provide critiques and feedback on new features by listening to them.
d) keep the thread open and pin it to the main page. It’s a valuable resource on this urgent and unresolved technical issue.Your summary is appreciated. I absolutely agree.
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@oneworldtree, I agree to all your issues.
Nevertheless I am german and I do not like talking in English, so I am off that Forum.
But it is necessary to shelter you.
What we need is a free and nonsponsered medium for the people. -
Hi. I'm taking a few days' break from the computer. I will be returning e-mails on Monday evening. Thank you!
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I just realized why I cannot scroll down on my blog posts, nor when I try to edit something. It’s because, as the point has been made previously, WP must be wooing the tweeters and cell-phone users and one-line typers. Because that’s what the new format (at least for me) will support. Just a couple of lines.
If i type more than a few paragraphs, it is hidden at the bottom of the page, and I am completely unable to scroll down and see it or work on it or edit it.
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I apologize for my Vacation Response popping up on this page. I don’t know how to stop it. So sorry. Like I said before, I am not computer-savvy. Another reason why we need the Original Editor. It was easy for ANYONE to use and manage.
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Hilfe, wo ist denn der alte Editor? Und wie komme ich aus dem neuen blauen Ding wieder raus? Ich finde ja nicht mal den Button zum Ausloggen. Und hierher hätte ich auch nicht gefunden, wenn nicht jemand den Link gepostet hätte!
Ich will den alten Editor wiederhaben, sonst muss ich leider schon wieder woanders hin ziehen. -
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@jeremeylduvall – going back to your answers to tt and me here https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/please-reinstate-the-option-of-choice-to-use-the-old-publishing-format/page/17?replies=688#post-2323280
I suspected that the New Dash/New Editor was at the intersection of jetpack and WordPress.com, and would like to know who at the jetpack end of this is being subjected to beta testing the New Editor?
As far as the Support docs, yes, please, and make it a priority. Since old timers here know how to get to the Classic Editor in the Dashboard (or if they didn’t before, they do now!) new users seem to be the ones to target, so Learn WordPress.com should be a top update priority.
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@commondestiny
There’s tpenguinltg’s great tip [somewhat furter up this page]:Ah, finally finished.
Here’s the list of workarounds all in one place:
http://git.io/wpcom-restore-classic-ed
Making it look nice is a secondary concern. The important thing is that the content is all there.
Feedback is welcome.I personally just use the dashboard: go to “wpadmin” there, then to “posts” and “add new”. That takes you to the old editor. To make it easier, I have bookmarked that page.
Editing an old post still using the classical editor also only works via the dashboard. Again, “wpadmin”, and then “all posts”. -
DIE TECHNIKER IST KAPUT
What these Geek WordPress designers and programmers (or, assuming this boondoggle is coming from an executive who is not also some hot, new ingenious programmer) are entirely missing is that every design concept (on any product, or for any service for that matter) has not just an apparent or public appearance, but also an underlying capabilities function.
And here’s a complimentary tidbit of ingenuity, since we’re talking Genius and all, appearance and capability are actually two separate things. I know that concept is extremely hard for many modern people to grasp up front and without detailed explanation but coolness and trendy fashion are actually not the exact same things as functionality and capacity. Trust me, I’ve done the experimentation and research on the matter for myself. But on second thought don’t trust me WordPress, just look honestly and objectively through this thread at the huge number of complaints you are getting from your user-base. (Your user base. You know those people who use your product) See a pattern? Now run that pattern through your favorite user-base projection algorithm and what do you really see? Go figgur, huh?
(Since we’ve also drifted into talk of capacity and capability as well, here’s yet another gem of product development Wisdom: “when you create a supposedly superior product than that which you’ve previously developed then at least make sure your allegedly ‘improved product’ is actually superior to your previous product in every way imaginable. Otherwise you just end up looking and smelling like Edsel and Betamax.)
If WordPress thinks (and they appear to erroneously so believe) that younger users, seeking a mind-numbingly simplistic and yet incapable interface will remain a loyal customer base over an extended period of time then I suggest they investigate any of the information publicly available on the consumer and business habits and practices of millennials, as but one example of “customer loyalty.”
I was considering moving to a paid WordPress blog as soon as the follower counts on my various blogs reached 500 apiece, but now, being aware of this kind of lack of functionality in post-editing, and considering the fact that this company obviously considers their end-user concerns to be such a small matter that they won’t even make a pretense of an effort to fix this (what in essence should be a non) problem simply to appease a generational group of users who will show the company itself no loyalty, and in short order at that, I’ve reconsidered that idea altogether.
This entirely self-created and wholly unnecessary fiasco is going to become an Internet Watchword for how not to conduct business towards your customers and end-users (of any generation or demographic) merely in the attempt to prove a wholly unfounded and evidentiarily unproven “theory” about supposed future trends in ultra-hipster-internetery. And those theories will prove entirely false. As has so much of the cool-seeming, hipster-inspired, brain-dead and insipid theorizing of modern Geek-webberising As a matter of fact you guys are gonna internet theorize yourselves right into the next Great Leap Froward, with similar results.
This business model is merely a fad or trend that will go nowhere and profit WordPress not at all, and the outright idiocy of the entire disaster is not only that it was entirely unnecessary, but that the theorizers will continue to suck at the septic teats of their bovine business theory when amazingly simple, effect, pragmatic, and profitable resolutions are obviously and readily available to you entirely free of charge. Again just see your user-base. Or just bother to read through this thread, and you too can Internet like a Genius by doing nothing more than listening to your end-users and quickly and efficiently resolving easy to fix problems.
Yes, you too.
But apparently even the most simplistic solution set is like an attempt at middle-school interstellar rocket science around here, and so WordPress you guys are on a slow-boat to the dead moons of Uranus burning unicorn horns and basilisk scat for your rocket fuel.
So good luck with all that… you’re gonna need it.
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Hi everyone,
We are leaving the thread open for the moment as a place for you to voice your displeasure about the recent changes to the editor.I will delete responses that are disrespectful in any way toward another user but
critiques of the editor itself or the process we use to roll out new features will not be deleted so long as they do not also contain a personal attack.If you would like to report a specific bug or request a specific feature be added to the new editor please start a new thread with the “modlook and “new editor feedback” tags.
We will reply directly to all bug reports and use the feature requests to inform the continued iteration of the new WordPress.com dashboard.
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@lizthefair
Thanks for the reply. Please also note https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/please-reinstate-the-option-of-choice-to-use-the-old-publishing-format/page/23?replies=688#post-2328713Hopefully, those posting to vent here in this thread will not also post into other threads on the new editor, wherein Staff are already assisting other bloggers, or where the modlook tagging for Staff has been entered into the sidebar tags.
P.S. I suspected that my question posed to jeremeylduvall at https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/please-reinstate-the-option-of-choice-to-use-the-old-publishing-format/page/22?replies=667#post-2327773 would produce exactly what it did produce. As for me, I have moved on.
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Can we please have the old editor back? Why do the devs feel the need to use WP.com as a guinea pig for new features without even thinking for a moment, “Hmm … a lot of people may not like this?” That beep beep bop editor or whatever it is is nerve wrecking, tiresome, and does not come with a complete list of options in order to publish/edit posts. This is has gotten quite ridiculous WP. Please think of the writers when you roll out new features without the least bit of consultation from your users.
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Can we please have the old editor back?
Hi there,
That question was answered on May 18th.The Classic Editor will continue to exist in wp-admin. We know some users prefer to use this editor, so we want you to have access to it, instead of phasing it out with the new version of the Dashboard. However, a link to the Classic Editor will not return to the New Editor. From: https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/when-editing-an-old-post-how-do-i-switch-to-the-classic-editor?replies=5#post-2316097
You can access the classic editor at Dashboard > Posts > Add New
Here’s the list of workarounds all in one place:
http://git.io/wpcom-restore-classic-ed -
@lizthefair …. thanks
It’s good to see we’re not going be to shut off from comment and that some “fair” controls and deletions will be applied to abusive quibbling. This is really welcome!
But WP should realize that people are universally resistant to “change” even when it’s marketed as “cool” or “trendy”. Any change has to prove itself to actually BE an improvement to assuage those feelings of being somehow deprived. That’s just the nature of us all.
An improvement MUST actually be one, or we will complain about it. In recent months I have found ONE company product improvement. Pepsi has released a great diet drink called NEXT in which the much disputed Aspartame has been removed. This is a smart move ….
Why? Aren’t people all resistant to change? Yep … they are. And Pepsi is smart enough to know this. So with each new diet version they’ve retained the old version as well. Now they have three versions of diet Pepsi. And three times the shelf space. Smart move, Pepsi.
GIMP has released new version of its excellent program every year or two. But the old ones are accessible. The new one is definitely a big step forward … with a wonderful feature allowing mutliple access of screens. However there is one complaint … the font size adjustment is too tight and most of us don’t need 4000 pixel enlargements.
GIMP never issued draconian statement such as …” Well this is the new version and we’re not going to change it and we’re not going to let you access the older version.” GIMP developers are too smart to jump on that bandwagon. Nope … they merely say they’ll see about including it in the next version. MEANTIME we can access the older version.
Upshot. I love GIMP. Have given a huge amount of time to developing a business card tweak for them …. and I use the new version 90% of the time …. confident that I can switch to the older version for my fonts. I have choice. And I feel like a participant. And I trumpet praises for GIMP whenever I can. A win-win for everytone.
WP needs to listen. The “new” stats page is still horrible. Cramped and missing the vital total counts stat while insisting we need to know how many posts we published THAT day. No button to directly access another blog stats page. A nightmare of clicking and clacking.
Anyone listening? There are a lot of suggestions in this forum … a lot. The main one being to give us the choice.
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It’s deja vu! We spent ages last year complaining about this awful Beep Boop editor so they let us have the option to keep the classic editor – and they’ve now done this …AGAIN?
Sorry WP this is NOT on! Restore the classic editor option button immediately please!
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Two excellent summaries of what we want:
@thedangerousdream
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/please-reinstate-the-option-of-choice-to-use-the-old-publishing-format/page/23?replies=698#post-2328253And the number of posters is 111….
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So far, when I’ve been forced to use the new layout, I’ve been totally unable to preview my draft. (“no file found”) I’m so tired of trying to find a way to work around the problem every time I do a draft. Anyone know about an easy fix? Why can’t we at least have the option?
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