Please Reinstate the Option of Choice to Use the Old Publishing Format
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Thanks for everyone’s help!
I apologize for starting the other thread last night. I have never been on forums before and started the thread not knowing this one was here. I know to look first in the future. I found this thread after I started the other so my apologies. Y’all have helped a lot.@Justjennifer
I log into the site through my iPad IOS and use Safari. I have the WordPress app loaded but prefer the website over the app. I do all my blogging by iPad. I rarely ever turn my old computer on these days. Thanks!And yes this can be my signature to WordPress to please put the button back on the new Editor to switch to classic, it’s so much easier to use from my iPad.
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@oneworldtree-I feel I am missing what you are trying to tell me. If you are talking about the tracking software that WordPress.com uses onsite (Kissmetrics and Inspectlet), look at the Privacy section at the bottom of your Account Settings https://wordpress.com/me/account This is not news (at least not to me and others).
It would be helpful if people who own their WordPress powered websites commented.
The more people who have WordPress.com websites who post into this thread and request the return of the link in the New Post Editor to access the Classic Post Editor, the more traction it will have.
Quite frankly, having been on WPcom for so long, I and other forum volunteers have witnessed numerous changes to the WPcom platform which were met by a firestorm of outrage by its users, including us. If we want our objections to be heard they must be on topic and objective in as much as possible.
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@fearsomebeard- No need to apologize. There are now numerous threads on this topic.
As it is a separate issue, let us continue on your other forum thread for the topic of creating/editing posts on your iPad. Thanks.
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justjennifer,
@oneworldtree-I feel I am missing what you are trying to tell me. If you are talking about the tracking software that WordPress.com uses onsite (Kissmetrics and Inspectlet), look at the Privacy section at the bottom of your Account Settings https://wordpress.com/me/account This is not news (at least not to me and others).
It was news to me. Now that I understand that ads on free blogs are not a significant source of revenue, it makes sense that WordPress will not be concerned if we are unable to maintain our news sites as we have in past. Data and metadata are worth far more than ad revenue.
Since my website’s relevance is content based, anything that impedes my ability to provide new content in a timely manner is going to ultimately destroy their purpose.
I have been following forum threads about the new editor for months and have seen hundreds of users ask for the classic option to continue.
I have witnessed threads becoming aggressive and abusive and do not want to see that happen here.
I have been courteous, consistent and clear in all of my statements.
I am not outraged. I am deeply disappointed because these upgrades will negatively impact my work.
If WordPress are not listening, it has to be because the new format is more advantageous and profitable for them. Period.
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I posted at greater length on this subject in another thread, but wanted to add my voice here as well, since this is turning out to be the main thread. Please give end users easy access to the classic editor and classic composer, since the new “Beep Beep Boop” editor is both buggy and a downgrade. Ideally, this should be an account preference, not something stored in a cookie (since people often clean out their cookies, as they should). IOW, when I log in WordPress should know that I want to use the classic editor and classic composer because these preferences are stored server-side.
As to why I hate the new editor so much, I find that on long posts it smooshes all the paragraphs together so that they have to be manually reformatted (infuriating!). My blog is here:
https://ethicsandspirituality.wordpress.com/
Thank you for your kind attention to this matter.
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@oneworldtree & @dawntreader72014
I discovered today that where we have the top menu (reader, my sites), scroll down from “my sites” and click on click on “WP admin”.
That will open the original classic dashboard. From there, whether you select to add a post or page, you will only work in the classic editor mode.
Hope this helps for now and that this doesn’t change.
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I totally empathize. The new editor is slow and not suitable for a news site. Since your work is vital I hope that my recommendation to access the classic mode resolves your dilemma.
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@newworldrisingchronicles Thank you for your help, but your workaround only works for one session and is cookie-based. It doesn’t address the following problem: You read your blog, realize you need to change a word or sentence, so you click on the Edit button and are left stranded in the “Beep Beep Boop” editor (which mangles your paragraphs), with no link to the classic editor. Yes, there are workarounds, but editing needs to be quick, easy, and intuitive. If I click on the Edit button, take me to the editor I’ve chosen in server-side preferences. End of saga.
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@newworldrisingchronicles
So far it works. I tested it on all the websites and I get the classic mode. Classic mode even holds steady when I go back and add additional links.
I hope this window remains open.
All I ask is to have the freedom to choose.
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UPDATE: Even within a single session, getting into the classic editor via WP Administration doesn’t result in settings that stick. Even after doing an edit with the classic editor, if you read your blog and click on a post’s Edit link to edit it, you’ll still be taken to the “Beep Beep Boop” editor with no link to the classic editor. PITA!
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if you read your blog and click on a post’s Edit link to edit it
Don’t use the edit link.
Try from here:
https://cloudup.com/cfMJ02ama_r
or in other words
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/new-improved-edit-interface-is-still-deleting-numeric-tags?replies=23#post-2310052 -
With all respect and thanks, Galois, you’re doing a “smoking” great job of ignoring what some users are complaining about. For writing perfectionists, editing is an interactive process which requires edit, view, edit, view, rinse, repeat. PHP is slow enough to begin with, but to have to navigate through a couple of screens and scroll down to find an old post to edit it is a major PITA! What people are complaining about is that instead of being able to follow a natural, intuitive editing process, they’re forced to pull teeth.
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Also not what I’m seeing in Chrome. I click to Edit the post and I only get the Beep Beep Boop the first time: all subsequent edits of that post go to the classic editor.
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@raincoaster Not what I’m seeing in Firefox. :-) Have you cleared out all your cookies and caches and run the experiment in the last 24 hours or so (since the latest WP “upgrade”)?
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@dawntreader72014
I hope you are clear on the fact that this is a peer support forum and both galois and raincoaster are Volunteers just as I am. To suggest galois has ignored you may imply that you think he’s Staff when he isn’t, and when none of us Volunteers like the changes that have been made by Staff, so I posted to clarify just in case that was the case. Our editor selection preferences last only until we clear our cache and cookies then they are gone. -
you’re doing a “smoking” great job of ignoring what some users are complaining about.
@dawntreader72014:
I fully understand the complaints and indignation of users.
I just give you an easy way for not using the new editor.
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@timethief I too am Volunteering to help troubleshoot these issues. I did thank Galois, but if you peruse a couple of different threads covering roughly this same subject matter, you might discover certain repeated themes. The problem, as refined in discussions, is that there’s no easy, intuitive way for people who need the classic editor (because the new editor mangles their posts) to get to it. Yes, there are workarounds, and I think most people are learning them. The enduring issues are bugs in the new editor, and that the latest “upgrade” makes it a PITA to get to the classic editor. Arcane workarounds, however well-intentioned, merely underscore this problem. They don’t solve it.
This thread is also an effort to petition WP to do something about the problem. Hence, end users may sometimes need to be blunt about the fact that the workarounds being offered by well-intentioned fellow users don’t really solve the underlying problem. If simple editing tasks become a PITA, this takes all the fun out of blogging on WordPress.com, and people will move to some other platform.
@galois I thank you again, but editing a post that you’re reading should be no harder than hitting the Edit button. That should take you to the editor you’ve chosen in server-side preferences, which should stick from session to session. If you have to fight the UI to interactively edit your posts, this is something end users should rightly complain about. Bad UI decisions pushed on end users lead to bad feelings about WordPress, which in turn lead to abandonment of the platform.
In case I’m still not being clear: If you’re editing a post of 5000 words and you typically make about 25 small edits little by little, you need an editor that “just works,” and that you get to in one click.
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Now I get it!
If I want to make a post, or edit one, I MUST NOT:
Click the little pencil and plus sign at the top of the page;
Click My Site/Publish/Blog Posts/Add;
Click “Edit” on a post.
If I do any of those things, most of the features I need for editing are not available.
Such utter incompetence at WordPress.com is hard to comprehend.What I have to do is;
Hover over “My Site” at the top left
Select “WP Admin”
In the black column on the left, select “Posts”
Select “Add new” or
Select “All posts”, select the post concerned and select “Edit”.And will this method remain available?
Count me as a petitioner to reinstate the editor that was useful
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