Please Reinstate the Option of Choice to Use the Old Publishing Format
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timethief says:
… I do have full confidence that once this bumpy roller coaster ride is done and the final iteration has been debugged, WordPress.COM staff will have created a rockin editor that will rival the classic editor.
Perhaps. And when they finally accomplish that, they will have something as good as the classic editor. But they already have the classic editor! Why go through all this trouble (and inconvenience to users) to re-create what already exists?
By the way, there may be yet another work-around. It’s being said that creating a new Page always uses the classic editor — at least for now. If so, a new post could be created and previewed that way. Then, before publishing it, the thing could be copied to the “new post” option where it can be saved and published. I haven’t tried this because so far it hasn’t been necessary, but it’s an option to consider before migrating to an .org platform.
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So the poll has 1,000+ vote AGAINST the new editor and not a single one FOR it.
Not sure how many people are on WordPress (and how many of them active) but you’d think 1,000 people taking the time to vote would be a fairly significant statement.
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Not sure how many people are on WordPress (and how many of them active) but you’d think 1,000 people taking the time to vote would be a fairly significant statement.
+1.000
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The problem here is the probably the same elsewhere that computer programmers – or whatever they call them these days – have to create work for themselves and one of the ways they do that is by constantly changing, ‘improving’ and ‘updating’ what was perfectly fine in the first place and in some cases superior.
It doesn’t always work that way. Nat West for example have constantly worked at improving their website making it more and more user friendly and pleasant to use – and it was quite good in the first place at least when I started using it – and they have done very well and people are not complaining at all because it really is improved, not worse than it was before!
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And the classic examples of improvements that do not annoy are with OSX and iOS. WP is a very long way from that. It could and should carry people along with it. It could be magnetic and attract far more users. But it needs a vision, not improvisation and tinkering.
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Also, the policy of continuous piecemeal changes encourages a lack of discipline — as we are seeing all too clearly. Instead of getting everything right and releasing an update with a bang in one go, there is a sloppy culture of “hey, it may not work, but we can always fix it later”.
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Ok, let’s not turn on each other and keep debating the poll. That’s what WordPress wants.
The new editor is terrible and the poll is showing that most people agree. What we’re asking for is reasonable. We want a button that let’s us switch to the other editor, and a way to choose the better editor as a default.
I feel like someone is paying WordPress to push the new editor and that’s why they’re so reluctant to admit that it’s terrible.
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…and the poll is showing that most people agree.
It does not do that, and can not, since it is not constructed in such a way that one could draw such conclusions from its results.
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davidderrick–
Thanks. I call that equivocation. Here’s another idiocy with the new editor, by the way (on Chrome on a Mac). These needs staff attention. You can do Apple z to undo a wrong keystroke. Fine. Then, if you do Apple z again (to undo the PREVIOUS keystroke) …. the entire contents of the editing window just vanish!!
You have to go back in to get them back (making sure you don’t do a save first).Thanks for reporting this. I was able to replicate something similar to what you report here and will file a bug report. I did notice it was possible to get the content back by clicking the redo icon in the editor interface, but it’s still something to be reported.
As a general reminder it’s better to report bugs in a separate thread. I’m reading all the posts here, but by reporting bugs separately we have a better opportunity to discuss them without distracting (or getting distracted by) the main conversation here.
Thanks!
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Thanks, and thanks for putting up with all this feisty talk in this thread. Point about where to post is noted.
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Ok, let’s not turn on each other and keep debating the poll. That’s what WordPress wants.
The new editor is terrible and the poll is showing that most people agree. What we’re asking for is reasonable. We want a button that let’s us switch to the other editor, and a way to choose the better editor as a default.
It is and if you have news sites, which the original poster has, it adds a minimum of 2 hours a day to her workload, which is unacceptable. This never happened with the Classic editor. It began with the removal of quick access link to the editor and the ability to remain in that mode of choice throughout the entire working session. A further affront is the imposed punitive workarounds for members who refuse to support the beta test version.
I understand why some people feel threatened by the results of the poll but however they attempt to discredit, they can’t.
If as many people vote for the 4th option as who chose the first 3, the statistics would show it and it would neutralize the current results. But nobody has done it because nobody wants the new editor.
I feel like someone is paying WordPress to push the new editor and that’s why they’re so reluctant to admit that it’s terrible.
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Call it a Poll or Petition or plain old list of disappointed WordPress users. Call it macaroni if you like. It doesn’t matter.
That’s still a HUGE number of signatures in a very short time. As we can all see there are many more people signing than commenting … which is a standard for all campaigns/protests/issues. There are various algorithms for calculating public opinion … but there is always an enormous gap between “visible” protest and general public opinion. We can assume thousands of discontented people taking this known factor into account.
@newworldrisingchronicles Thanks for keeping the link accessible
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I have to amend a statement I said earlier about the other two on the *nix Windows team: they both like the new editor, but one says he has no opinion because he hasn’t had much exposure to the classic editor, and the other one says that although he likes the new one, comparing the two, the classic one is better. They’ve both voted.
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FWIW, I just added my vote to keep the Classic editor a permanent option.
I’d like to be able to simply and permanently opt-out of the new editor. I use both self-hosted and wp.com hosted sites and working with the two different editors is confusing.
Besides that, I have set different color schemes to help me keeping my different sites apart when I have them open in multiple browser tabs – the new editor always looks the same and that just confuses me further.
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I have exercised diplomacy in this matter since the beginning of the discussion.
I am a human rights advocate, counselor, primarily working with political prisoners, child soldiers and victims of torture and war.
My websites have taken years to build and I continue to have a high demand to feature urgent cases and causes.
I am passionate about my work and the people I represent.
If I felt that I was the only person on WordPress challenged by the new editor I would never have initiated this discussion.
If the new changes were not negatively impacting my ability to serve, I would have remained silent.
In all fairness, I have thus far abstained from voting and have not promoted the petition on either my websites or my twitter accounts.
However, if this problem continues unresolved, I will begin to promote it with ferocity.
I have been the originator of numerous campaigns for Libya’s political prisoners (in collaboration with international lawyers) and we never achieved the 1000 responses in just 2 days that this petition has. This in itself, speaks volumes.
Please vote while the poll remains open.
This a human rights issue, not merely a technical one.
We are encountering increasing threats to our internet freedoms from governments around the world and anything that makes our ability to communicate effectively and efficiently to a wide audience must be challenged.
Never doubt that a small group of deeply committed people can change the world! (Margaret Mead)
However many times a lie is repeated, it remains a lie.
If only a single voice speaks the truth, it has more power than the millions that deceive.
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I just would like to say that compliance with standard WordPress was THE reason for me to start blogging at WordPress.com.
If WordPress.com will proceed with switching off the standard WordPress dashboard and editor I will move my blog to my private website.
I have been holding introductions to blogging with WordPress.com in adult education for some years, but we discuss stopping those courses due to the editor/dashboard mess.
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Correction:
Anything that makes our ability to communicate effectively and efficiently to a wide audience more difficult must be challenged.
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The new editor doesn’t provide a spacing for line breaks.
I do not like this new editor. At all.
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