Pros and Cons of hosting WordPress on your Own Server
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QUESTION:
How much storage space should I expect to need to host my own fully-loaded copy of WordPress (blog), and Joomla (content management), and Simplemachines (forums)…?
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As for the monthly data transfer… since I am expecting a HUGE amount of traffic… I guess I should remove those “NoCache” meta tags I added…
(I thought it would be a good idea that the viewer always gets a fresh copy of the page… But I didn’t think it through… that that will affect my total data transfer volume tremendously…)
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How much space you’d need depends on what you have now and what are your plans for the future. How much space are you using now for what you have? WordPress.org software isn’t huge and clunky as far as I know.
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Agreed. Most of my own clients are well within the 1 gig limit that my basic account allows for. And I do host a fair number of soccer moms with their digital cameras. We do have to cover why posting those multiple meg pictures are a bad idea from time to time like we do around here. :)
Just for reference, I try not to assume anything around here. That’s why I made it a point to point out where sepcifcally on the site I was looking for. but considering that I found that first before your list may say something. And that page looks like the same list from the other page. You’ll note that nearly ever single link on that page is an affliate link.
There’s a couple thousand hosting companies on the net and they only list ten. Also they don’t provide any actual review, ranking, method of comparison, feedback, testomonials, etc. Heck there’s no way to get my own company listed or for any other site to get a review done on them. Also note that they only have the larger companies listed that offer the big bucks for signing up folks.
Bruce, it’s up to you. I can only tell you what I’m seeing.
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Well, you’re assuming that it is a scam site…
But Host Review has been rating hosting service providers for many years now…
If you go to the main page, http://hostreview.com and click on the picture of the (silver?) “TOP10 Awards”, it will take you to this page: http://www.hostreview.com/top10year.html
Where you will see your issues addressed…
The year has been filled with changes for the web hosting industry. The team at HostReview has watched these changes closely and has decided to reward the leading companies in a set of 8 different Top 10 award categories. Weve taken a look back over the past 12 months to create our Best of the Year awards recognizing the yearly performance of the company in the related category.
HostReview.com will also be awarding companies on a yearly basis. This will include the yearly performance of the company in the related category.
Participating in the new evaluation system is guaranteed if your company is included in our Web Hosting Search Engine.
Add your company today to HostReview.com, and then start having your website visitors vote for you! After submitting your company you will recieve an email with a “Vote for us” Logo attached and instructions on where to link to. The more clicks your listing gets from your site visitors the higher your company will be listed in our directory.
Including a link to “Add your Company”, etc., etc…
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Bruce all I can tell you is what I see. I see a site where most of the links that I’ve come across are affliate links. The banners coming across are the ones that are highly rated on their site. Again, there are no publically accessable reviews or editorials for any of these sites. A quick search for a number of hosting companies that I know of, including my own, produce no hits in their search bar.
Bruce it may not be a scam site but it seems like they’re rating (or say that they’re rating) the sites that they want. And, again, I find it very strange that they only list the larger hosts as the best, again the ones who kick back the most money for new clients. There are a lot of good small and medium hosts out there who have some serious fans.
I didn’t call them a scam site although I know what you’re thinking of. There are a lot of them in the hosting market. (You get some serious money for forwarding on new clients) They just seem to be a bit bias to me.
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I have no dog in this fight but I must say that it doesn’t look authoritative to me. And a high rating for Godaddy is contrary to my own experience and the reputation they have in the IT industry at large. Godaddy is known for being inexpensive; there is no question they are inexpensive. But this is the only link you have to support your statement that Godaddy is esteemed, and it just doesn’t seem to carry much weight.
I’m just going to be tactless here and ask if you are getting any kind of referral income/benefits from Godaddy.
Also, Bruce, we can’t help you determine whether WP-hosted WordPress.com or off-hosted WordPress.org are best for your needs if you’re not more specific about what it is you actually need. What do you want your blog to do?
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We’re getting off topic anyway which is something we’re doing more and more of around here and that’s not a good thing.
Bruce, I do hope we at least answered your original question though. :)
-drmike
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(1) For the Record: Again. No, I receive ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for promoting godaddy in any way. I’m just an ordinary customer. I am not a member of any affiliate or referral program, or anything like that, with them. And I don’t really promote them anyway. I just happen to love the customer service they provide, and their offerings — which are comprehensive and simple to use. For example, their system AUTOMATICALLY installs WordPress FOR ME… if/when I want it to… along with Joomla, SMF, and all the rest of the Best of open source…
(2) I’m not vouching for Host Review. I’m just reading it the same as you. But I have been seeing their site for many years now. Also, if the largest hosting providers always appear to be in the Top 10… Maybe it’s because the largest providers have the facilities, infrastructure, etc. to provide superior service…? Or, perhaps… On that last page I posted, it mentions “Have your customers vote for you…”. Maybe the largest providers are simply getting more votes… and they are factoring that in… I have no idea. Email them and ask them, and let us know. By the way, that Search box does not seem to be intended to search for hosting providers. It seems to be a search for articles and web pages. When I search for godaddy, it only finds News articles about them. I would agree that their site is complicated, too “busy”, and Not intuitive. It looks to me like they “rate” the Top 10 hosting providers in each category… to get you to go to their page… and click on one of the MANY paid ads and listings… They do NOT claim to be a master directory of ALL hosting providers, nor do they even claim to list them all. They do allow any hosting company to be submitted, but they do not claim to offer a list of them all. Again, I have no affiliation with this group either.
(3) Back to the Topic: I was not asking anyone to tell me which is better — wp.com or wp.org hosting. I was simply asking people to post — what THEY believe are the Pros and the Cons… of doing either…
And, so far, your input has been very enlightening. THANK YOU!
The Security issues, for one, I had not thought much about.
The bandwidth, traffic, software upgrades, etc… that you don’t have to worry about with wp.com… are another factor I might have minimized in my mind.
And the speed and responsiveness of the site… which I’m still not totally convinced of… without a benchmark test… and totally depends on the size and sophistication of your hosting provider…
Any more Pros or Cons…?
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And, so far, your input has been very enlightening. THANK YOU! …
Any more Pros or Cons…?Nope.
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1) Most hosters have some form of automated installer just for reference. CPanel and Direct Admin backends actually have this built into their software.
2) Biggest doesn’t always mean best but we’ve both had our say. It’s cool. :)
3) If you think you can handle it, I’d say go ahead and make the move. You do have the wp.org forums to go to if you have issues. (I gotta say that you have a better chance of a reply over here though :) You’ll note that even my blog is off site.
Best wishes,
-drmikeedit 4) You’ll note that I didn’t give you my own address. I do try to remain impartial in all of this.
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(1) Interesting. I did not know that.
(2) I agree. Very valid point, of course.
(3) Yeah, I might do that…. at least to “play around with it”… I can always play with it a bit before “making the big switch” (installing links to redirect visiters, etc.). And even after switching, I could always go back to my wp.com blog if I get scared by something.
(4) Your own address? Whatta ya mean?
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drmike….
(Are you really a doctor, by the way?)
I’ve been thinking more about that SEO discussion we were having… and I am more sure I’m right…
Here’s why:
If it worked the way you described…. Where every single PAGE was, in effect, considered its own SITE… by google….
Then… someone could simply create a site with 10,000 pages… Where 9,999 of those pages all had links to the page number 1.
That would then give page 1 a huge PageRank….
I could even place 500,000 links on each of the 10,000 pages….
On the other hand…
The way I understand that it works is:
A link FROM: downunder.com/drmike/misc/links.htm ……TO: brucewagner.com/world/learnenglish.htm …..
COUNTS as: ONE link FROM: drmike.com TO: brucewagner.com
In other words, ALL the links FROM All of the pages, and sub-domains, of any TOP level domain (xxxx.com) are added together….
And, ALL the links TO all the pages, and sub-domains, of any TOP level domain (yyyy.com) are added together….
Then….
ALL the links FROM xxxx.com TO yyyy.com count as only ONE (1).
This is a way to prevent abuse of the system.
Similar to accounts requiring you to click an “activation” link in an email they send to you… It guarantees that you can only have as many accounts… as you have email addresses…
Which, for most people, would be more than a slight hassle to set up 10,000 email addresses. Whereas, setting up 10,000 pages could be done in an instant — with software.
This is the whole idea behind SEO… The game is to get as many links from as many DIFFERENT domains as possible. And it does not matter what page this link is on.
A link from cnn.com/news/world/local/newyork/albany/lotto_winner.htm would still count as only ONE link…. from the top-level domain (cnn.com).
HOWEVER, that link would he weighted HEAVILY… because cnn.com has a WHOPPING 9 (out of 10) PageRank….
So, you see… a link from cnn.com to your site… would count a LOT more…. than a link from my site… to your site…. (as it should)…. with my measly PageRank of 3.
By the way, the easiest way to check the PageRank of any page is to use the Google Toolbar. It’s built in… But make sure you are looking at the top page that comes up in Google. For example, you want to check the PR of http://www.cnn.com ….. NOT cnn.com
The way to find the TOP page is: google “cnn”. click the first one listed. THAT is the top page….
Conclusion: Each individual page has a PageRank…. but it’s the rank of the TOP page (accumulated for the top-level-domain) that really counts.
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If only it worked that way. Google toolbar is considered spyware by some, so I’d hesitate to install it. And alas, Google is not that good at picking up links from the news sites to blogs: I aught to know, having been featured on ABC News and the Guardian recently and of course still not being able to find those links on Google.
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There’s an indepth discussion of Google Pagerank over in the Off Topic forum here:
https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=7118&replies=38
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Google intentionally does not index certain sites… and certain types of sites.
They stopped indexing most blogs (including their own, blogger.com) around January, 2006… Now, they have their own Technorati-like service, called Google Blog Search ( http://blogsearch.google.com ) for searching blogs only.
They also factor in “link aging” to a certain degree too… so lots of brand new links do not always have the effect you might expect.
I just blogged about all this stuff. Here: http://brucewagner.com/blog
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Google has had blogsearch for quite some time: at least a year, I believe. But Google itself does still index blogs; I get a whack of my readers through Google.
Bruce, why are you asking if Dr. Mike is a real doctor? I’m sure you’re savvy enough to know about screen names, aren’t you?
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drmike has three doctorates. One earned and to honorary. You can confirm this here https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic.php?id=7152&page=3&replies=74#post-47440
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