Removing the scrollbar from the post editor one of the worst "improvements" yet
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I noticed this problem a couple of days ago. At first, I thought it to be a malfunction or new setting option. When I checked support forums, I found closed threads about this issue, no solutions, well intentioned helpers sending users on wild goose chases – like clearing cache – putting all blame on user or user’s computer – blame the victim, rather than admit is is in fact a problem caused by WordPress making a design change. I found a couple of work-arounds. First, to note, I normally go to site title drop-down menu to select New Post, to get what I usually use for creating a new article. That one is missing the vertical scrollbar for the text box. Another option, which I’ve not liked to use before, is to go to the page that shows Reader, My Sites, Stats on the upper left. On the upper right is the + symbol and pencil emblem. Clicking on that gets a different kind of text box to create a new posting. That one still has the vertical scrollbar! The other work-around is at the former option. See the Visual and Text tabs. Under the Text tab is a kind of X emblem to click on, which gets the “Distraction Free Writing” option. No vertical scrollbar, but easier to use that option. It has a toolbar at the top that becomes visible when moving the cursor over it. As is, the old way is now only good for very short articles. I don’t like it, but I can adapt to it.
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Why should we adapt to it .It should be Word press to change it back with this many complaints and we all know there is a thousand more but they wot come forward.I do a lot of spread sheets i copy and paste into the posting area ,it is making it next to impossible to do with out the scroll bar and in regular posts its next to impossible to get up to the title of the post
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Layout issue persists – unprovoked; I simply scrolled down and the toolbar broke away. Happens on Chrome and Firefox, which are both up to date, all peripherals (flash, java) are up to date. Addons disabled, still occurs.
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http://i.imgur.com/oZyBxcs.pngPgUp and PgDn issues persist – attempting to do one or the other just fails to move me through the text or adjust the (sole) scroll window, and jerks me back to my old position. Navigation remains difficult and cumbersome, given I don’t really use/have a mouse.
This doesn’t feel like it’s been properly tested or implemented.
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@ sloopie72, @ diaryofdennis, @wildbow
Regarding the proofreader issue described immediately above, and on page 8 of this thread:
sloopie72 said: “…when I proofread a post and scroll down, all the editing buttons slide over the text…”
diaryofdennis said, “I discovered a new bug… Couldn´t reproduce it yet but at some point I saw the text field where I write divided. In other words… I had two text fields.”
wildbow said, “I simply scrolled down and the toolbar broke away.” And wildbow provides a screenshot illustrating the issue.
It seems like you might all be describing the same issue. I haven’t seen it happen. Wondering if this second proofreader issue might be limited to certain browsers or to certain themes. I’ve seen another screenshot similar to that of wildbow recently in a WP forum thread but haven’t been able to locate it.
Another proofreader issue was described on July 24 in this thread by diaryofdennis. In that case, when you select the proofread button while in text mode of the post editor, the horizontal editor toolbar (at top of the window) is transformed into a vertical toolbar at the left-hand side of the window, blocking some text. When I reproduce this effect, attempts to return to visual mode fail — there is no response to the visual editor button once in the text editor proofread mode — and I escape the situation by refreshing the page. Some other action might work as well, but there is no “Undo” button in the post text editor.
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I forgot to provide a link to the cited wildbow comment, but it’s the one immediately above mine.
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Yes seems to be the same issue when I look at the imgur link of wildbow. Same just happened to me a few minutes ago again. Now I remember I just scrolled down and it broke the editor. Scrolliong might already be a trigger. It appears as the button bar will move into the text field so that the text field looks divided or as you have two text fields. But I think it´s rather that the button bar moves there as user sloopie mentioned too.
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Appeared in text mode but then I must admit I use the visual mode rarely so that I can´t say if it´s happening there too.
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And a staff member has yet to come back to this particular thread with any sort of update or solution. I am losing faith in WP. It’s still early in the morning, however, with 9 pages of complaints from angry members of the WP community, we should have had an answer to our troubles by now, not just saying that you think this “update” is an improvement and that you hear our issues. If you do, then let us know. Stop keeping your loyal users in the dark.
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I agree. I really wonder too why there are not much staff replies. I mean a lot of people here did work out very well which bugs occur. Apart from that I see too that many dislike the change. Why is there no reply on this subject?
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Besides this scroll bar fiasco now I have template problems.
I have a woman working on that but the wp support woman on the scroll bar gave up I guess -
> I really wonder too why there are not much staff replies.
with nine pages of name-calling and invective, do you really have to wonder? you’d have to be insane to respond unless you were Told to.
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Roseglace : think of this ,maybe if WordPress had responded to early inquiries ,everyone would not had lost there good feelings about them and then they would not have any one mad at them! and there would be no name calling and people looking at other sites hummm
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there was definitely poor communication on this matter — the number of people who went looking for bug reports when the change went through is ample evidence of that. and ‘they’ should have responded quickly; i can’t begin to speculate why they didn’t. but once labels like ‘stupid’ and ‘incompetent’ started flying, all hope of productive dialogue evaporated.
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It would appear the new editor look is here to stay
As for this thread – it is mostly a rant with threats to leave if the scroll bar is not brought back – looks like time for those folks to move –
if you want to influence changes – go over to WordPress.ORG and check into the change threads for the updates and make a case for or against any given change, since most changes are vetted at .ORG and Beta tested here at .COM
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@roseglace this is staff’s job to reply to threads! What do you mean? Regardless of how we may word our replies, this is their job. They have taken something that was effective and made it totally ineffective, and that was removing the scrollbar from the editor, without as much as a warning first. How dare you sit here and criticize us hard working bloggers, many of whom have spent countless hours trying to perfect our writings, spent money with WordPress, and try to create a better blogosphere, by placing the blame back on us for voicing our concerns and opinions? Had WordPress never messed with something that was working fine in the first place, this thread would not exist. For the most part, we have been respectful to staff. We have only criticized this “update” for the lack of ingenuity, the thought process it took to change this, which was absolutely zero, because had they tested this, staff would know that this is a downdate, not an “update”, and voiced our honest opinions. We have even suggested that WordPress, to keep us from scrolling up and down constantly to preview posts, add tags, etc., to pin the Publish, Format, etc. options to the right of the editor, but I guess you, in a rush to criticize, didn’t see those posts. The language and dialogue used was not vulgar, therefore we can say what we feel. If we feel this “update” is stupid, then it’s so. This isn’t the polite debate forum. Start one of those on your own time.
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Composing new posts — and editing old ones — has just become a lot easier with a fixed toolbar. You no longer need to scroll up and down the Post Editor to make changes, which makes longform writing, in particular, especially smoother.
This is from WordPress i seen ,so what they have done is took into consideration people that write long articles leaving the rest of us out in the rain puddle
this kills people that have a writer and copy and paste especially on spread sheets
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It´s fairly easy to colour everyone with the same brush. I saw also constructive posts here.
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I have been constructive and I am working with WORDPRESS staff right now .
The lady I was talking to about the scroll bar i guess just stopped talking to me about it ,the lady helping me with my screwed up template i must say has taken a real interest in helping me
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