Removing the scrollbar from the post editor one of the worst "improvements" yet
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Completely out of coincidence, I discovered that the admin panel on the left-hand side stays put while scrolling up or down provided that your font size is relatively small. If it becomes larger (for whatever reason), the admin panel moves up when you scroll down.
The only scenario in which this “improvement” would retain WP.com’s usefulness is the following combination:
1. Both the admin panel and the right-hand menu (the one that has the “Publish”, “Save draft”, tags, categories etc options) staying put as you scroll up or down, regardless of font size used;
2. The title bar of the post (together with the buttons beneath it that are above the editor’s buttons) being always visible.Other than this, this “improvement” actually makes things worse.
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This is what I see while editing a (noised-out for obvious reasons) post: The right-hand menus move up as I scroll down.
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Well, I see nothing has changed so we either get out or grin and bear it! Anyway, I’m out of this discussion now as it’s cluttering my mailbox.
Bye all.
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Ah, you have a “split screen”. In https://xxx.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post-new.php is an options tab where you can choose 1- or 2-row screen layout: you have chosen two rows, I’ve just one. That’s why I didn’t understand “the right-hand menu” at once (I’m trying to reproduce the errors described).
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won’t you at least change the size of the editor window to the one it was before and put it fixed (at approximately 25 lines)? It’s getting bigger and bigger the more I write – I do not only not like it, i hate it: So much scrolling and clicking around for absolutely nothing.
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@ monaeberhardt,
Completely out of coincidence, I discovered that the admin panel on the left-hand side stays put while scrolling up or down provided that your font size is relatively small. If it becomes larger (for whatever reason), the admin panel moves up when you scroll down.
I was able to reproduce the effect you describe, admin panel moving when scrolling, by zooming in twice, Ctrl + + (twice) at edit post. Other than that it appears that a CSS upgrade would be required to permit changing the font size.
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@ opalkatze,
The latest WordPress.com Update announcement said,
Composing new posts — and editing old ones — has just become a lot easier with a fixed toolbar. You no longer need to scroll up and down the Post Editor to make changes, which makes longform writing, in particular, especially smoother.
Many users have in this thread described increased time spent scrolling since the update due to the removal of the post editor scrollbar. You’ve identified a second modification that also results in increased scrolling time, for those who use the single column layout: the new full content displayed editor window, with the resizer removed. The latter doesn’t affect those using a two column layout, which (along with the fact that I’d forgotten about the single column layout option) is why I hadn’t noticed the effect until you mentioned it.
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Actually, I use a two-column layout, and I’m affected. Both the admin panel and the right-hand options (publish, save draft, categories, tags) go up when I scroll down.
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@ monaeberhardt,
That’s not what I said. I said the new full content displayed editor window doesn’t have the effect of causing increased scrolling time.
As mentioned above I reproduced the effect you described. When I did so I was using the two-column layout. Had long ago forgotten about the option of a single-column layout.
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Meant to say, as I said two comments ago,
The new full content displayed editor window doesn’t have the effect of causing increased scrolling time for those using the two column layout.
That doesn’t mean you won’t see the panels moving, and experience increased scrolling time as a result. The causative factors are different in this case: 1.) removal of the editor scrollbar, 2.) large font size, or use of zoom.
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Those using the single column layout on a long post must now scroll to the very bottom of the post to get to the panels that us two column users have in the right sidebar. Example: To edit, add, subtract a word in the first line of a 5,000 word post, they must scroll all the way to the end to save or update.
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It’s like the reverse of the effects seen by two-column users, on long posts. Two-columners have to scroll more when editing near the bottom of a long post to get to the save, preview, and edit buttons. One-column folks have to scroll farther when editing at the top of a post to reach those buttons.
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It would be good to see another update from a staffer to let us know whether the programmers are still considering a way to address the problems this new update has caused. And if so, what are they thinking of doing?
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The new edit box was already extremely annoying, but I literally can’t edit old pages and posts now. I click in the text editing box, I try to type or move the cursor, it lurches to a different paragraph and the cursor disappears.
Before (note position of cursor, marked with red scribble, where I just clicked in the box):
…and then I press a key, and the cursor disappears and the view lurches to another part of the text:
And I can’t see where the cursor is or what I’m typing. If I click where I can see it, the same thing happens as soon as I press any key.
I’m not over-exaggerating, I’m not saying it’s simply more of a chore than before, I mean I literally, physically can’t edit my old posts any more. This cannot be the intended behaviour. Can someone please tell me how to fix this?
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Like nixonradio, I cannot edit properly because I place my cursor where I want to edit and as soon as I start to type, the screen scrolls to somewhere else such that my cursor is not visible.
WORKAROUND: It behaves better in full screen mode. *However*, the page-up and page-down keys don’t work in full screen mode.
(Which just completely boggles my mind. Those keys are so much more convenient and reproducible than actually dragging a scroll bar around. It seems as if this was not well tested in the text-heavy, long-form, keyboard-oriented use case.)
I’m really finding this change incredibly buggy. The ever-expanding text window routinely makes my text disappear, so that I can’t see what I’m typing, or can only see the last few words at the tippy-top of the scroll area and only the empty white space is visible.
Oh, and I just tried it again, and now am finding that the visible area is sometimes not, in fact, expanding as I type, so again I’m typing words I can’t see, except that they’re at the *bottom* of the area now.
Again, my workaround has been to use the fullscreen editor, which I have *never used before* because I don’t *like* the fullscreen editor: I want to have all my widgets there in the right hand column, and my notification bar and all that. But if the main post editor is buggy and unusable, that’s my only choice. But the page-up and page-down keys don’t work in the fullscreen mode, which makes *it* not very usable, either.
GRRR. This was such a bad idea.
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