Request for no right click

  • Unknown's avatar

    I run a photography blog and display photographs I have taken, however now it seems the UK Government has decided that it is OK for what they class as ‘orphaned’ photos to be used by other people to the extent that they can profit from them. Yes the bill has passed Royal Assent and it is now a formality until it becomes law.

    A lot of sites strip your copyright metadata on upload, and many people have their watermarks in the corner out of the way, which ultimately will lead to the photograph being cropped to remove the water. Is there anyway that WordPress would consider implementing a no-right click function so that we can turn it on if we need to with a notices saying the content of this post/page is copyrighted and then the name of our blogs.

    This doesn’t just affect photographers from the UK, it affects every person who takes pictures and posts them online.

    The blog I need help with is: (visible only to logged in users)

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    No right click is enabled on the Monochrome and Duotone themes already. It does not, however, prevent thieves from thieving. It takes me mere seconds to work around right-click disablement.

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    Oh yes I understand it doesn’t stop it… but should you want to get that person to remove that photo you have more chance by saying that they no right click was enabled… and the photograph was watermarked.

    You see the thing is, with this new bill people can do exactly what you say, remove the metadata and watermark and then claim they didn’t know who the creator was so they couldn’t contact them.. and they would win the case..

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    No, you don’t have more chance. Copyrighted material is copyrighted, right click or no right click. I don’t know where you’re getting your legal advice from, but I don’t believe it is terribly good.

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    Here is the British Photographers Press Association on the topic

    The Copyright Fight – David Bailey weighs in…

    And this is from the Register

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/04/29/err_act_landgrab/

    And Camera Connect

    http://cameraconnect.wordpress.com/2013/04/29/enterprise-and-regulatory-reform-bill-gains-royal-assent/

    I didn’t know about this Bill at all, it is hardly been mentioned in the media.. but I can assure you it really does have an impact on photographers work, irrespective of whether you are from the UK or not.

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    Your blog is hosted in the US and is subject to US law, including copyright.

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    If you feel strongly enough about it, you can always use one of the two themes I mentioned above.

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    And your links discuss the new bill, they don’t discuss your no-right-click-equals-more-chance idea (which was what raincoaster correctly objected to).

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    @ Raincoaster my blog may be hosted in the US, but I am from the UK and this new bill literally rips up previous international agreements:

    Normal copyright law as agreed in international copyright treaties, to which the UK is signatory, grants copyright owners ‘the exclusive right of authorizing the reproduction of [their] works, in any manner or form.’ Creators don’t have to apply for this right: it is theirs automatically and without formality. This means that unless it is used under one of the narrowly-defined Fair Dealing exceptions to copyright allowed by these treaties, it is illegal to exploit a copyright work without the permission of its owner.

    The EAA Act changes that. Under its provisions it will be legal to exploit a copyright work – photograph, film, text, song, whatever – without the knowledge, permission of, and payment to, its owner.

    2. ‘They are intended to help remove unnecessary barriers to the legitimate use of works while preserving the interests of rights holders.’

    As we have said earlier, international copyright treaties grant copyright owners ‘the exclusive right of authorizing the reproduction of [their] works, in any manner or form.’ If this is an ‘unnecessary barrier to the legitimate use of works’, quite how are ‘the interests of rights holders’ being preserved by breaking it? The legitimate interests of foreign rights owners are certainly damaged and their rights breached by this Act.

    http://www.stop43.org.uk/pages/news_and_resources_files/photographers_have_just_been_royally.php

    My no right click argument is this… if I found a picture of mine being hosted on another website WITHOUT my permission, if there is no right click, it is obvious, that the person who stole my works had no intention of contacting me about my works. By being given the option to disable right clicks, in any theme, adds legal weight to the claim I can make that the person did not contact me to gain permission to use my photos.

    If they obtained the image via the page source, or other means, then it is clear that they intended to use the works (which could be for gain) without obtaining my permission.

    Sorry I only asked if it was possible to have a no-right click option in themes… I knew for a fact it didn’t stop people stealing but it proves your case that they obtained the picture dishonestly.

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    Your blog is hosted in the US and is subject to US law, including copyright.

    Its not that simple. If you upload a work covered by copyright in another country it is still protected by that copyright and under international treaties protected in other countries. Thus I can upload pictures I have taken and they would be copyrighted under UK law – (I explicitly allow non-commercial reuse with attribution).

    As you say though the new bill says nothing about right-clicks, it just allows the use of orphan works where a reasonable effort to tradck down the owner has been made (and a similar law is coming to the USA soon). I think that the reaction to the law is a bit paranoid – you can still come forward and assert copyright and have images removed, what you cannot do is seek damages if a reasonable effort to trace you has been made.

    People worry about companies not making a reasonable effort, and what constitutes a “reasonable effort” is undefined. It is expected that this will vary, someone using an image in a multi-million dollar advertising campaign would be expected to spend tens of thousands of dollars attempting to trace the owner, but for a “mom & pop” guesthouse using an image of local scenery on a poster just a google image search would probably be sufficient.

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    My no right click argument is this… if I found a picture of mine being hosted on another website WITHOUT my permission, if there is no right click, it is obvious, that the person who stole my works had no intention of contacting me about my works.

    If I really wanted to steal your image I would steal it and put it up on an anonymous blog without any notice or protection – then “find” it there. Watermarking is by far the best way to protect images

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    Well if the OP is so concerned, why has she not switched her blog to one of the only two themes here which offers right click protection? Proof AGAINST concept, if you ask me.

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    @Simply because I don’t like the style of the other blogs… I like the theme I am using..

    Please can a mod close this thread … sorry I bloody well asked …

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    If you want no right click, that option exists for you on those two themes. If they’re not pretty enough, you’re just going to have to cope. “No right click” is so ineffective that WordPress.com is never going to institute it, regardless of rulings in the UK.

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