Stats Classics: How to set?
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Did this happen very recently? Another blogger asked the same question on a different thread tonight.
Here is my comment: https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/oldnew-dashboardstats-designs/page/2?replies=36#post-2221317
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Why has the black drop down menu lost it’s links to my Blogs and there Admin Pages ?
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Yes noticed it… I starting to worry because it feels like they are taking down WordPress lol. Sorry, but it’s insane. That was now my way to get to the old dashboard and now it’s removed too.
If this now happened intentional too, I don’t understand anymore what is happening in the background, it’s deconstruction.
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@dandelionslalad
Yes, I noticed it late last night (GMT)
@diaryofdenis
I suspect that there is an intention, by a group within WP, to force us to go via the new pages so that they can record the number of “hits”. A desperate attempt to prove the new pages are acceptable.
Using bookmarks will foil such an attempt. We need to spread the use of bookmarks as much as possible.
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I suspect that there is an intention, by a group within WP, to force us to go via the new pages so that they can record the number of “hits”. A desperate attempt to prove the new pages are acceptable.
That’s what I assume too and what I wrote in the other thread. They don’t get used to the fact that probably quite a lot of people use links that lead to the old stats page or old dashboard. They can’t get used to the truth.
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I think that is the option that has been closed off within the last few hours. Getting to classic dashboard and classic stats is now even more of an obstacle course. I fear that they will be gone altogether soon!
They said they were responding to the howling errors in the new stats upgrade but instead they were planning a new assault on the classic pages.
They are not listening and responding, they are carrying on regardless of feedback from serious bloggers like us!
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Why would WP go to all this subterfuge? All they have to do is allow both formats for the stats page. Is that so difficult? I suspect it’s the same old problem with so many organizations … some higher up isn’t going to budge. I would think Penny’s would be a pretty good lesson for scrapping such intransigence.
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I wish someone would create a firefox and chrome extansion that replaces all new stats dashboard links to the old stats and dashboard links. But even then, or if we bookmark the old links, I see it coming, they will remove the old pages completely at some point. This is probably happening…
There is this clear message, wordpress.com will now be the noob version of the wordpress to attract more blogging day flies who try blogging for one month to give up quikly, and if we don’t get used to it, we should shut up and go selfhosting. That is the message I get.
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@diaryofdennis
Exactly!
They don’t want serious people cluttering up the servers with content, they want one sentence, one picture FB style bloggers!
I came here from Blogger in 2009 and it looks as though I will have to go back! -
Perhaps this is something which happens all too often in many businesses. It recently happened in mine. A change was made and the CEO who made it truly believed it was an improvement. Perhaps the WordPress team really doesn’t realize the extent of the damage these changes will cause because most people shrug their shoulders and don’t bother complaining.
It normally takes an astonishingly few genuine complaints to make changes. Personally I have been involved in two issues much larger than WordPress stats and was astounded when changes were made I think we should continue to quietly state our objections.
Word Press is a HUGE organization with some of the most serious and important bloggers in the world using it. I don’t really believe such glaring mistakes will be supported permanently by WordPress. They’re not going to sell out to teenagers. There are too many of us with millions of followers blogging here. We’re not a shabby hang-out for bored teenagers …. nor a twitter site for vapid commenters.
I think we should just hang in here and suggest improvements and point out errors. As we say in Hawaiian … “Ku Pa’a” Stand firm.
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I came here from Blogger in 2009 and it looks as though I will have to go back!
Same here. I came here 2011 or so but had selfhosting experience before. Free cloud hosting with the possibility to buy domains and upgrade other things was all I needed and what brought me here.
Especially the cloud hosting. I had one German tech website earlier selhosted and when traffic spiked, I was kicked out of the contract due to too much bandwidth usage. That was the point where I told myself “Never ever, shared hosting again” and discovered wordpress.com.
Less flexibility when it comes to install plugins, however, overall it offered the core that was way enough for me. I didn’t want to clutter my newer blog with plugins anyway.
wordpress.com came in fact only with benefits, especially as I did only want to experiment with a new broad blog (that escalated quickly which is why I am still here after years).
The UI of wordpress.com was the same as if I would selfhost, and that was one of the other reasons why I loved it here, well, until now…
They UI is quite important to me as it has to do with my workflow, with the usability that is now history.
I have the idea to go back to selfhosting too and that since months. It’s just that we all know what that means, it would basically be a hiatus due to the work of export and what not. And then there is the problem that the only cheap variant of hosting would be shared hosting, but I never will use shared hosting again. Dedicated hosting, cloud hosting and so is more expansive. There is the dilemma.
But as wp.com doesn’t seems to care about longtime users, I would find solutions and I think already about the best solutions. I don’t really want to be a customer of a bigheaded company. Going back to selfhostin is definitely something in my mind.
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Perhaps this is something which happens all too often in many businesses. It recently happened in mine. A change was made and the CEO who made it truly believed it was an improvement. Perhaps the WordPress team really doesn’t realize the extent of the damage these changes will cause because most people shrug their shoulders and don’t bother complaining.
I think that is the point, yes. Some higher people brought in the new concept, and developers deliver… and “happyness engineers” promise it is the single coolest change ever. I could imagine that some internal people don’t believe in it either, they just have to deliver I guess.
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@diaryofdennis
Exactly! They have determined the direction of business travel and nothing (for the moment) will stop them! -
the new stats are simply without a sense: we need to know country and number of visitors, as the old one were. RESPECT THE CUSTOMERS.
Since this morning all the functions related to stats by fixed pc doesn’t work. I pay a service, my one blog is not a free blog. Where are my stats? -
At this point, it’s impossible to ascertain exactly what WordPress is doing behind the curtains. We haven’t received clear, consistent, and definitive answers one way or another.
We were initially told that the old stats page and dashboard would remain intact, but a few days later, the same individual said that the old stats page would eventually be replaced by the new dashboard (lest we focus too much on the stats portion of the page, the new stats page is also the new dashboard, freshly dumbed down and simplified for the iPhone/Android/Tumblr crowd).
They’ve assured us that they’re implementing changes based on our feedback, yet the only substantive changes we’ve seen amount to overt attempts to create a cattle chute to funnel is into the simplistic and, frankly, inferior new UI—presumably so we can provide more feedback (my question is, if you have to do this, and if you have to rely this heavily on our input, is it really wise to roll out a new UI in the first place?). I’ve filled out both surveys—the short survey repeatedly—yet there’s no way to access the results.
I can access the useful (old) dashboard and stats pages from the “My Sites” as of this morning, so I don’t know what the issue was last night. As they’ve either completely ignored us or merely added more lipstick to the new UI pig, I expect newer and more unpleasant changes in the near future.
To designsimply/Wordpress:
1. You could do much to quell this tempest by keeping both UIs, rather than forcing desktop, laptop, and longform authors to use an interface clearly developed for mobile devices. Assure us of this, and much of the rancor would evaporate rather quickly.
2. Currently, I can view all of the relevant information on the stats and dashboard pages on a 27″ screen, and much of the information on a 13″ laptop. If we’re to be forced to use the stripped down and inefficient new UI as many of us suspect, are there plans to restore easy access to all of the features through a multi-column design (1 for the dashboard, 2 or more for the stats and features as we have now with the current dashboard)? Will we be able to drag and drop categories as we can now?
3. What is the rationalization for the new UI? Did the developers seriously believe that the new 1 column format is anything but a retrograde step on a large screen?
4. We’ve provided feedback for over a month; it’s evident that many of us dislike the new UI, yet we’re being pushed to use it. Why haven’t we been able to see the results from the surveys? The lack of transparency from an organization based on a passionate and dedicated user community does little to inspire confidence and leads many of us to believe that the final decisions regarding the new interface design have already been made.
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When I say that I can access all of the information on a large screen, I’m referring to the old stats and dashboard pages. I actually see less information on the new page using a 27″ iMac than I do by using the old pages on a 13″ Macbook.
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@fjordaniv
Brilliant but don’t expect answers!
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I’m not holding my breath. Telling us that our suggestions are “under consideration” isn’t really an answer either. They’ve asked us for concrete feedback, we’ve given it on surveys, threads, and pages, yet we have nothing to show for it.
We’ve just lost the ability to navigate directly back to our site using the My Sites menu when we’re visiting another WordPress page, although I can paradoxically opt to view the awful new dashboard/stats page. They know that many of us are unhappy with the new design, yet they’re making it gradually more difficult to access the better, more efficient tools we’ve had for years.
I hope that this isn’t yet another harbinger of the “exciting” changes they have in store for us.
On a related note, we adore our iPad: it’s a great tool for accessing the web and email when we travel, and it’s actually reasonably usable for typing now that we’ve added a Bluetooth keyboard—although editing leaves much to be desired compared to a true computer. I can see the appeal for microbloggers, and that’s the demographic WordPress seems to be shooting for.
With that being said, I’d much rather have a laptop or desktop with a true file system, large screen, and a real word processor for serious work. A number of pages on my site have over 4,000 words each, and I cringe at the thought of trying to do all of that online using a virtual keyboard on an already limited screen. I know that there are bloggers who use tablets and phones, but I suspect that the bulk of them rarely post longer pages and posts on a regular basis.
WP’s one size fits all approach just doesn’t make sense if the single column dashboard is their answer. It might be fine for the Tumbleblog/Twitter bloggers with their phones and tablets, but it’s a disaster on my desktop’s screen.
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I can also now confirm that selecting stats under the My Sites menu now brings you directly to the “Nightmare in Blue” dashboard/stats page, even if you’re accessing the stats from your own site.
I’ve bookmarked the classic stats, but this doesn’t bode well for the future of the WP.com user interface.
Great job, WordPress!
(“We know what’s best for your blogging experience, and even if it’s a reviled disaster, we’ll impose it on you anyway”).
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