Test blog and changing menu colour – 2010 Theme

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hi, I’ve taken over managing the above blog, which has paid for the customisation option.

    I now need to use the customisation functionality myself for the first time.

    I’m worried about doing this straight into the blog when others are using it. Am I allowed to set up a test blog which can also use the customisation facilities, or do I need to pay another customisation fee? If I can have a test blog within the current customisation agreement, how do I set this up?

    The blog currently the colour of the Menu bar changed to orange instead of the usual black. However, when I go into customisation, the menu still seems to have the colour black selected when I look at the colours options. Is this the correct place to change this colour, or do I need to do this elsewhere?

    As far as I can tell the previous blogger hasn’t used the Menu Customisation option, but is using the Pages functionality to determine which Pages (and sub-pages) appear where on the Menu bar.

    Thanks very much for your help!

    The blog I need help with is: (visible only to logged in users)

  • Unknown's avatar

    It is advisable to use a test blog for working with the CSS. You can use the preview function to be able to see what things are going to look like and then transfer the CSS over to the live site.

    You can also do much of it with the Customizer feature here and not need a test blog: http://en.support.wordpress.com/customizer/ .

    Both options work and it just depends on what you feel comfortable with.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Thanks thesacredpath.

    The second option looks like a good one for the small changes I need to do now.

    I’m also looking at doing some significant changes which will take several days and so I also need a test blog to do these. I know I can just create a new blog as my test blog, but how do I link it in with the blog I’m supporting so I can also use the customisation option already paid for? This is assuming I can do that of course, or do I need to pay a second customisation fee?

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hi – I’ve tried the Customizer feature and come up against the problem I outlined in my original question.

    I’ve gone into the Appearance > Themes and selected the customise option.

    I’ve then looked at the colour palette which is displayed for the Colors and Background option.

    The colour shown for the menu on the palette is black, not the orange which appears on the Menu actually displayed on the blog.

    If I select another colour and drag it to the Menu colour on the palette, the colour of the Menu does not change to my colour selection.

    Therefore, I’m wondering if the Menu colour was customized in a different way?

  • Unknown's avatar

    Hi – does anyone have an answer to my questions please?

    Thanks :)

  • Unknown's avatar

    The menu background color you have is set in your custom CSS. The customize page does not pick up changes that you make directly to the CSS. That is why it is still showing the black. If you take the orange out of your custom CSS, then you can set it in the Customize section.

    The other thing I notice is that you have copied and pasted the entire stylesheet into the editor. This can cause you problems. What you want to do is to add only the selectors and specific declarations that you are adding or changing. Anything that is not changing should not be put into your custom CSS.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Thanks for your reply thesacredpath.

    I inherited the customisation, so I didn’t copy the stylesheet into the editor.

    I’m completely new to customisation and I have no documentation on what my predecessor did. Luckily they only made changes 18 times, so I can at least reconstruct what they’ve changed so far using the compare version functions.

    What kind of problems are there with having the entire stylesheet in the editor?

  • Unknown's avatar

    You are welcome.

    In CSS, any theme related images will have relative links (Example: /images/image.jpg) rather than absolute links (Example: http://blogname.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/image.jpg). Since the custom CSS is saved in a different location that means the relative links are broken and image elements in the theme will disappear. With 2010, this isn’t much of a problem since it has few image elements in the design, but for other themes, this can be a good sized problem.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Ahh I see, thank you.

    At the moment all I need to do is find out exactly how much has been changed and then make the menu colour change needed.

    I’m planning to change the to a new Theme completely going forward in a couple of months time. I think that will be the time to customise the CSS in the way you suggested earlier.

    That’s why I was also asking if I can have a test blog within the current customization option without having to pay for an extra one. Do you know if I can do this?

  • Unknown's avatar

    You can use the preview functions in the customization and in the CSS on the test blog to see the results of your changes. For the CSS, you then copy out the CSS and can put it into the live site CSS edit page, preview just to make sure and then save it if it looks right. With the customizations, you will have to do those choices over again on the live site.

  • Unknown's avatar

    Thanks the sacredpath.

    At last the penny has dropped, thank you :)

    I have now compared the previous CSS versions and have a handle on the changes made (and noted them!) and seen how these change using the Preview mode when editing the CSS.

    Thanks for your patience and answering my questions. Have a great weekend!

  • Unknown's avatar

    Thank you, and you too.

  • Unknown's avatar

    And you are welcome. :)

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